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Bobby Messenger

Charles Walter Messenger

Position: Rightfielder
Bats: Both, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 10", Weight: 165 lb.

Born: March 19, 1884 in Bangor, ME (All Transactions)
Debut: August 30, 1909
Teams (by GP): WhiteSox/Browns 1909-1914

Final Game: May 5, 1914
Died: July 10, 1951 in Bath, ME
Buried: Richmond Cemetery, Richmond, ME
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Standard Batting

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1909 25 CHW AL 31 130 112 18 19 1 1 0 0 7 13 24 .170 .268 .196 .464 49 22 2 3 O
1910 26 CHW AL 9 33 26 7 6 0 1 0 4 3 4 2 .231 .375 .308 .683 119 8 2 1 /O
1911 27 CHW AL 13 22 17 4 2 0 1 0 0 0 3 5 .118 .250 .235 .485 37 4 0 2 /O
1914 30 SLB AL 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 /O
4 Yrs 54 187 157 29 27 1 3 0 4 10 0 20 31 .172 .282 .217 .498 58 34 4 6
162 Game Avg. 162 561 471 87 81 3 9 0 12 30 60 93 .172 .282 .217 .498 58 102 12 18
CHW (3 yrs) 53 185 155 29 27 1 3 0 4 10 20 31 .174 .285 .219 .504 60 34 4 6
SLB (1 yr) 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.1): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1909 25 CHW AL 31 130 -6 0 0 0 -2 -7 -1.0 4 -3 -0.5 .470 .494 -0.5 -0.2 -3 $ O
1910 26 CHW AL 9 33 1 0 0 0 -0 1 0.1 1 2 0.2 .511 .501 0.2 -0.1 2 $ /O
1911 27 CHW AL 13 22 -2 0 0 0 -0 -2 -0.2 1 -1 -0.1 .486 .499 -0.1 -0.0 -1 $ /O
1914 30 SLB AL 1 2 -0 0 0 0 0 -0 -0.1 0 -0 0.0 .450 .500 0.0 0.0 -0 $ /O
4 Seasons 54 187 -7 1 0 0 -2 -9 -1.1 6 -2 -0.4 .480 .498 -0.4 -0.3 -2 $
CHW (3 yrs) 53 185 -7 1 0 0 -2 -8 -1.1 6 -2 -0.4 .481 .498 -0.4 -0.3 -2 $
SLB (1 yr) 1 2 -0 0 0 0 0 -0 -0.1 0 -0 0.0 .450 .500 0.0 0.0 -0 $

Advanced Batting

Year Age Tm Lg PA Outs RC RC/G AIR BAbip BA lgBA OBP lgOBP SLG lgSLG OPS lgOPS OPS+ OWn% BtRuns BtWins TotA SecA ISO PwrSpd
1909 25 CHW AL 130 96 6 1.7 71 .216 .170 .248 .268 .308 .196 .315 .464 .623 49 .248 -5.9 -0.7 .473 .205 .027 .0
1910 26 CHW AL 33 21 3 3.8 71 .250 .231 .244 .375 .310 .308 .316 .683 .625 119 .584 0.9 0.1 .850 .346 .077 .0
1911 27 CHW AL 22 17 1 1.6 95 .167 .118 .279 .250 .345 .235 .366 .485 .711 37 .146 -1.5 -0.2 .467 .294 .118
1914 30 SLB AL 2 2 0 0.0 79 .000 .000 .252 .000 .324 .000 .330 .000 .654 -100 .000 -0.5 -0.1 .000 .000 .000
4 Yrs 187 136 10 2.0 73 .214 .172 .251 .282 .313 .217 .321 .498 .633 58 .290 -7.0 -0.8 .523 .236 .045 .0
162 Game Avg. 561 408 30 2.0 73 .214 .172 .251 .282 .313 .217 .321 .498 .633 58 .290 -7.0 -0.8 .523 .236 .045
CHW (3 yrs) 185 134 10 2.0 73 .218 .174 .251 .285 .312 .219 .321 .504 .633 60 .295 -6.6 -0.8 .531 .239 .045 .0
SLB (1 yr) 2 2 0 0.0 79 .000 .000 .252 .000 .324 .000 .330 .000 .654 -100 .000 -0.5 -0.1 .000 .000 .000

Cumulative Batting

Year Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1909 25 31 130 112 18 19 1 1 0 0 7 13 24 .170 .268 .196 .464 49 22 2 3
1910 26 40 163 138 25 25 1 2 0 4 10 17 26 .181 .289 .217 .507 63 30 4 4
1911 27 53 185 155 29 27 1 3 0 4 10 20 31 .174 .285 .219 .504 60 34 4 6
1912 28 53 185 155 29 27 1 3 0 4 10 20 31 .174 .285 .219 .504 60 34 4 6
1913 29 53 185 155 29 27 1 3 0 4 10 20 31 .174 .285 .219 .504 60 34 4 6
1914 30 54 187 157 29 27 1 3 0 4 10 0 20 31 .172 .282 .217 .498 58 34 4 6

Neutralized Batting

Change to: Default / 750 Runs / 1968 Dodgers / 2000 Rockies or

All seasons are converted to 162-game seasons &
average team scoring of 716 total runs (4.42 R/G) How this works
Year Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS RC Gact
1909 25 32 143 121 27 24 1 1 0 0 9 16 25 .198 .307 .223 .530 8 31
1910 26 9 36 28 8 7 0 1 0 5 4 5 2 .250 .400 .321 .721 3 9
1911 27 14 23 18 4 2 0 1 0 0 0 3 5 .111 .238 .222 .460 1 13
1914 30 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 1
4 Yrs 56 204 169 39 33 1 3 0 5 13 24 32 .195 .313 .237 .550 12 54
162 Game Avg. 162 590 489 113 95 3 9 0 14 38 69 93 .195 .313 .237 .550 35 54

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