Pop Lloyd
John Henry Lloyd
- Bats Left, Throws Right
- Height 5' 11", Weight 180 lb.
- Negro League Debut Year: 1906
- Negro League Final Year: 1932
- Born April 25, 1884 in Palatka, FL USA
- Died March 19, 1964 in Atlantic City, NJ USA
Inducted into Hall of Fame in 1977
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Biographical Information[edit]
"I am honored to have John Lloyd called the Black Wagner. It is a privilege to have been compared to him." — Honus Wagner, quoted at Lloyd's Hall of Fame website
John Henry ("Pop") Lloyd was a Negro League shortstop, who was often considered an equal to his white contemporary Honus Wagner. He played for the Cuban X-Giants (1906), Philadelphia Giants (1907-1909), Leland Giants (1910), New York Lincoln Giants (1911-1913, 1926-1930), Chicago American Giants (1914-1917), New York Lincoln Stars (1915), Brooklyn Royal Giants (1918-1920), New York Bacharach Giants (1919), Columbus Buckeyes (1921), Atlantic City Bacharach Giants (1922, 1924-1925, 1931-1932), Hilldale (1923), and Harlem Stars (1931). He managed the Brooklyn Royal Giants (1918-1920), Columbus Buckeyes (1921), New York Bacharachs (1922), and Hilldale (1923).
"He looked like he was gliding over to the ball. You could hardly see his feet move." - Judy Johnson, from the book Blackball Stars
Most sources continue to list his year of death as 1965, but he actually died in 1964. An obituary appears in the April 4, 1964 issue of The Sporting News, and the Social Security death index confirms the year. The 2007 ESPN Encyclopedia also recognizes the change. The SABR website presently show it under Frank Phelps' log of Sporting News obituaries (1930-1991).
Negro Leagues Career Statistics[edit]
Year | Age | Team | League | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | BB | BA | SLG |
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1906 | 22 | Cuban X-Giants | independent | 3 | 12 | - | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | 0 | 0 | .000 | .000 |
1907 | 23 | Philadelphia Stars | independent | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
1908 | 24 | Philadelphia Stars | independent | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
1909 | 25 | Philadelphia Stars | independent | 2 | 8 | - | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | - | 0 | - | .750 | .875 |
1910 | 26 | Chicago Leland Giants | independent | 11 | 42 | - | 15 | 2 | 0 | 0 | - | 0 | - | .357 | .405 |
1911 | 27 | New York Lincoln Giants | independent | 1 | 4 | - | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | - | 0 | - | .750 | 1.500 |
1912 | 28 | New York Lincoln Giants | independent | 11 | 42 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 2 | .214 | .238 |
1913 | 29 | New York Lincoln Giants | independent | 15 | 56 | 12 | 22 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 9 | 2 | 5 | .393 | .482 |
1914 | 30 | Chicago American Giants | independent | 48 | 188 | 36 | 57 | 12 | 5 | 0 | 30 | 7 | 19 | .303 | .420 |
1915 | 31 | New York Lincoln Stars Chicago American Giants |
independent independent |
29 18 |
117 70 |
18 14 |
48 22 |
9 3 |
1 0 |
0 1 |
20 16 |
5 0 |
7 5 |
.410 .314 |
.504 .400 |
1916 | 32 | Chicago American Giants | independent | 62 | 223 | 38 | 75 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 34 | 6 | 20 | .336 | .408 |
1917 | 33 | Chicago American Giants | independent | 53 | 188 | 23 | 54 | 11 | 6 | 0 | 34 | 5 | 15 | .287 | .410 |
1918 | 34 | Brooklyn Royal Giants | independent | 18 | 71 | 12 | 25 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 13 | 1 | 6 | .352 | .451 |
1919 | 35 | Brooklyn Royal Giants Atlantic City Bacharach Giants |
independent independent |
3 16 |
10 60 |
1 7 |
2 22 |
0 5 |
1 1 |
0 0 |
2 10 |
0 5 |
2 4 |
.200 .367 |
.400 .483 |
1920 | 36 | Brooklyn Royal Giants | independent | 17 | 66 | 6 | 20 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 4 | .303 | .394 |
1921 | 37 | Columbus Buckeyes | NNL | 90 | 362 | 65 | 126 | 20 | 8 | 0 | 54 | 24 | 25 | .348 | .448 |
1922 | 38 | New York Bacharach Giants | NNL (associate) | 60 | 247 | 45 | 76 | 16 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 9 | 12 | .308 | .397 |
1923 | 39 | Hilldale | ECL | 41 | 150 | 34 | 55 | 13 | 1 | 2 | 23 | 5 | 9 | .367 | .507 |
1924 | 40 | Bacharach Giants | ECL | 55 | 203 | 36 | 74 | 11 | 2 | 1 | 43 | 7 | 18 | .365 | .453 |
1925 | 41 | Bacharach Giants | ECL | 60 | 217 | 42 | 72 | 7 | 5 | 3 | 17 | 13 | 27 | .332 | .452 |
1926 | 42 | NY Lincoln Giants | ECL | 46 | 169 | 26 | 61 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 7 | 5 | 24 | .361 | 456 |
1927 | 43 | Lincoln Giants | independent | 20 | 77 | 14 | 24 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 5 | .312 | .442 |
1928 | 44 | Lincoln Giants | ECL | 31 | 122 | 28 | 49 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 12 | 4 | 9 | .402 | .574 |
1929 | 45 | Lincoln Giants | ANL | 35 | 131 | 29 | 41 | 11 | 3 | 2 | 11 | 2 | 14 | .374 | . 550 |
1930 | 44 | Lincoln Giants | ANL | 42 | 156 | 27 | 58 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 11 | 6 | 11 | .372 | .436 |
1932 | 48 | New York Bacharach Giants | independent | 5 | 19 | 4 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | .316 | .474 |
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Total | 26 seasons | 810 | 3062 | (528) | 1042 | 161 | 56 | 22 | (366) | 114 | (246) | .340 | .452 | ||
per 162 g | 5.00 | 162 | 612 | 108 | 208 | 32 | 11 | 4 | 75 | 23 | 50 | .340 | .452 |
Sources:
- 1906-1911: The Baseball Encyclopedia, Macmillan, 10th Edition, pgs 2795-2796
- 1912-1923: www.seamheads.com, from research by Gary Ashwill and Kevin Johnson
- 1924-1932: Shades of Glory, Hogan et al., pp. 390–393
Sources[edit]
- Connelsville (PA) Daily Courier, March 20, 1964, page 6: "John Henry Lloyd, Greatest Negro Player, Dies at 79"
Further Reading[edit]
- Wes Singletary: The Right Time: John Henry "Pop" Lloyd and Black Baseball, McFarland, Jefferson, NC, 2011.
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