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Cinders O'Brien

John F. O'Brien

Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 10", Weight: 165 lb.

Born: April 15, 1867 in Troy, NY (All Transactions)
Debut: June 23, 1888
Teams (by GP): Spiders/Reds/Blues/Infants 1888-1891

Final Game: October 2, 1891
Died: March 11, 1892 in West Troy, NY
Buried: St. Patrick Cemetery, Watervliet, NY
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Standard Batting

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1888 21 CLE AA 32 114 109 13 20 1 0 0 9 2 4 .183 .219 .193 .412 35 21 1 1/O
1889 22 CLV NL 41 153 140 13 35 1 0 0 18 2 12 18 .250 .314 .257 .571 58 36 1 1
1890 23 CLE PL 26 98 96 12 15 1 1 0 6 0 2 6 .156 .173 .188 .361 -0 18 0 1/O
1891 24 BOS AA 41 137 128 19 30 1 0 0 10 3 8 17 .234 .285 .242 .527 50 31 1 1
4 Yrs 140 502 473 57 100 4 1 0 43 7 26 41 .211 .257 .224 .481 39 106 3
162 Game Avg. 162 581 547 66 116 5 1 0 50 8 30 .211 .257 .224 .481 39 123 3
CLV (2 yrs) 73 267 249 26 55 2 0 0 27 4 16 18 .221 .273 .229 .502 49 57 2
BOS (1 yr) 41 137 128 19 30 1 0 0 10 3 8 17 .234 .285 .242 .527 50 31 1
CLE (1 yr) 26 98 96 12 15 1 1 0 6 0 2 6 .156 .173 .188 .361 -0 18 0
AA (2 yrs) 73 251 237 32 50 2 0 0 19 5 12 17 .211 .255 .219 .474 44 52 2
NL (1 yr) 41 153 140 13 35 1 0 0 18 2 12 18 .250 .314 .257 .571 58 36 1
PL (1 yr) 26 98 96 12 15 1 1 0 6 0 2 6 .156 .173 .188 .361 -0 18 0

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.1): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1888 21 CLE AA 32 114 -8 -1 0 0 7 -1 -0.1 2 1 -0.1 .497 .499 -0.1 -0.0 1 $900 1/O
1889 22 CLV NL 41 153 -8 -0 0 0 13 4 0.3 4 9 0.3 .508 .502 0.3 -0.0 9 $1,750 1
1890 23 CLE PL 26 98 -14 0 0 0 7 -7 -0.5 2 -5 -0.5 .480 .497 -0.5 0.0 -5 $ 1/O
1891 24 BOS AA 41 137 -9 -0 0 0 11 1 0.1 2 4 0.1 .502 .501 0.1 0.0 4 $ 1
4 Seasons 140 502 -39 -1 0 0 38 -3 -0.2 11 8 -0.2 .499 .500 -0.2 0.0 8 $2,650
CLV (2 yrs) 73 267 -16 -1 0 0 20 3 0.2 6 10 0.2 .504 .501 0.2 -0.0 10 $2,650
BOS (1 yr) 41 137 -9 -0 0 0 11 1 0.1 2 4 0.1 .502 .501 0.1 0.0 4 $
CLE (1 yr) 26 98 -14 0 0 0 7 -7 -0.5 2 -5 -0.5 .480 .497 -0.5 0.0 -5 $

Advanced Batting

Year Age Tm Lg PA Outs RC RC/G AIR BAbip BA lgBA OBP lgOBP SLG lgSLG OPS lgOPS OPS+ OWn% BtRuns BtWins TotA SecA ISO PwrSpd
1888 21 CLE AA 114 89 4 1.2 67 .183 .183 .239 .219 .296 .193 .316 .412 .611 35 .138 -7.8 -0.9 .315 .064 .009 .0
1889 22 CLV NL 153 105 11 2.8 98 .287 .250 .277 .314 .348 .257 .378 .571 .726 58 .303 -7.8 -0.8 .486 .107 .007 .0
1890 23 CLE PL 98 81 3 1.0 98 .167 .156 .271 .173 .348 .188 .377 .361 .725 -0 .050 -13.8 -1.4 .247 .052 .031
1891 24 BOS AA 137 98 9 2.4 93 .270 .234 .263 .285 .347 .242 .356 .527 .703 50 .279 -8.6 -0.9 .439 .094 .008 .0
4 Yrs 502 373 27 1.9 90 .231 .211 .263 .257 .336 .224 .357 .481 .693 39 .197 -38.1 -4.0 .381 .082 .013 .0
162 Game Avg. 581 432 31 1.9 90 .231 .211 .263 .257 .336 .224 .357 .481 .693 39 .197 -38.1 -4.0 .381 .082 .013
CLV (2 yrs) 267 194 15 2.0 85 .238 .221 .260 .273 .326 .229 .350 .502 .676 49 .237 -15.6 -1.7 .407 .088 .008 .0
BOS (1 yr) 137 98 9 2.4 93 .270 .234 .263 .285 .347 .242 .356 .527 .703 50 .279 -8.6 -0.9 .439 .094 .008 .0
CLE (1 yr) 98 81 3 1.0 98 .167 .156 .271 .173 .348 .188 .377 .361 .725 -0 .050 -13.8 -1.4 .247 .052 .031
AA (2 yrs) 251 187 13 1.8 81 .227 .211 .252 .255 .324 .219 .337 .474 .661 44 .218 -16.4 -1.8 .380 .080 .008 .0
NL (1 yr) 153 105 11 2.8 98 .287 .250 .277 .314 .348 .257 .378 .571 .726 58 .303 -7.8 -0.8 .486 .107 .007 .0
PL (1 yr) 98 81 3 1.0 98 .167 .156 .271 .173 .348 .188 .377 .361 .725 -0 .050 -13.8 -1.4 .247 .052 .031

Cumulative Batting

Year Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1888 21 32 114 109 13 20 1 0 0 9 2 4 .183 .219 .193 .412 35 21 1
1889 22 73 267 249 26 55 2 0 0 27 4 16 18 .221 .273 .229 .502 49 57 2
1890 23 99 365 345 38 70 3 1 0 33 4 18 24 .203 .247 .217 .464 35 75 2
1891 24 140 502 473 57 100 4 1 0 43 7 26 41 .211 .257 .224 .481 39 106 3

Neutralized Batting

Change to: Default / 750 Runs / 1968 Dodgers / 2000 Rockies or

All seasons are converted to 162-game seasons &
average team scoring of 716 total runs (4.42 R/G)
How this works
Year Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS RC Gact
1888 21 38 132 127 14 22 1 0 0 10 2 4 0 .173 .205 .181 .386 5 32
1889 22 50 176 163 11 35 1 0 0 16 2 12 22 .215 .273 .221 .494 10 41
1890 23 32 115 113 9 14 1 1 0 5 0 2 7 .124 .139 .150 .290 2 26
1891 24 54 170 160 17 32 1 0 0 9 3 9 22 .200 .247 .206 .453 8 41
4 Yrs 174 593 563 51 103 4 1 0 40 7 27 51 .183 .224 .194 .418 25 140
162 Game Avg. 162 552 524 47 96 4 1 0 37 7 25 .183 .224 .194 .418 23 140

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