Comments on: No RBI for either team in the same game (?!?!?)

By: SJBlonger

SJBlonger — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:12:43 +0000

None of the games where a team scored 3 runs with 0 RBI and won by a 3-2 or 3-1 score, qualify. So I guess the record will be a 2-1 game.

By: Raphy

Raphy — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 02:21:53 +0000

Some of the scores in the '20s from the games I listed above are pretty high. My guess is that there were RBI in some of those games, just no record of RBI.

Technically its off topic, but one of those games has a really interesting scoring line:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Indians 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 7 1 9 12 0
Athletics 0 0 0 0 0 1 8 0 1 10 14 0

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHA/PHA192208160.shtml

Its too bad there is no play by play available for that game.

By: DoubleDiamond

DoubleDiamond — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 02:13:40 +0000

Several names from the Big Red Machine that dominated over the next several years can be found in the boxscore of that Houston-Cincinnati game. This includes three who were playing for the Astros at that time - Denis Menke, Joe Morgan, and starting pitcher Jack Billingham.

By: SJBlonger

SJBlonger — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:19:47 +0000

The record for a single team appears to be 5 in this game:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN197108110.shtml

Four teams, including the White Sox against Hawkins, had four R with no RBI, but in the games that were not shutouts the other team had at least one RBI.

Therefore I suspect the record for two teams, with both scoring, will be a total of 5 runs in a 3-2 game.

By: SJBlonger

SJBlonger — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:09:23 +0000

In Andy Hawkins' lost no-hitter, all 4 runs scored without benefit of an RBI.

By: Raphy

Raphy — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:09:23 +0000

DD- It's happened 9 times in the database and none since 1980.

Rk	Tm	Opp	Date	#Matching
1	NYY	TOR	1980-09-18	2
2	PHI	PIT	1978-05-31	2
3	CIN	HOU	1974-09-04	2
4	CLE	MIN	1967-08-25 (2)	2
5	CHW	WSH	1924-07-24	2
6	CHC	CIN	1923-05-02	2
7	CLE	PHA	1922-08-16	2
8	SLB	WSH	1922-08-08	2
9	CHW	WSH	1922-08-05	2

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/28/2010.

By: DoubleDiamond

DoubleDiamond — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:38:12 +0000

I haven't had a chance to check all of the above games, but a situation that seems, to me, to really be in the spirit of this post would be one in which each team scores at least one run. In other words, not a 1-0 or even 2-0 game. Except for the rare occasion of a tie, the minimum score for such a game would be 2-1.

By: Stu B

Stu B — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:13:11 +0000

No RBI for either team has happened in the World Series, eg Game 1 in 1986, when the Red Sox beat the Mets 1-0 on an error by Tim Teufel...

By: Gerry

Gerry — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:57:41 +0000

I presume Pelfrey also doesn't get credit for a shutout.

So, what's the (Play-Index era) record for most total runs scored in a game where neither team gets an RBI?

By: Rich

Rich — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:11:48 +0000

It's probably good Pelfrey didn't get credit for a complete game when he only pitched 5 innings