Comments on: Pitchers Fielding Last Out In Post-Season Series Winner This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Vince F. Bundy Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:26:32 +0000 Dennis Eckersley definitely recorded the putout at first base for the last out of the 1989 World Series...yet it's not listed here.

By: stan cook Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:34:34 +0000 Didn't McGraw pass on Lou Gehrig because he didn't like his footwork at first base or something.

By: John Autin Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:40:42 +0000 Rich @23 -- Good points about Ruth's first 4 WS with the Yanks.

But to be precise: He was 1-2 in Yankee WS when he took off for 2nd base in game 7 of '26. He fell to 1-3 after he was tagged out.

BTW ... John McGraw was a leader of the "Ruth is overrated" camp; his Giants of course prevailed in the 1921-22 WS matchups, and McGraw consistently disdained Ruth. Before game 2 of the '23 Series, with the Giants off to a 1-0 start, McGraw famously proclaimed: "Why shouldn't we pitch to Ruth? I've said before, and I'll say it again, we pitch to better hitters than Ruth in the National League."

Ruth slugged 2 HRs that game to even the Series; more tellingly, the Giants walked him 8 times over the last 5 games, and he scored 8 runs in the Series, as the Yankees finally came out on top, 4 games to 2. After game 2, the great Heywood Broun wrote what has become perhaps the most famous opening line in the history of sportswriting:

By: Phil Gaskill Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:48:19 +0000 1. Ruth said "Well, I wasn't doing any good standing there on first base."

2. Nixon's bunt was right back to the pitcher. I'm sure that was by accident, but still. Blech.

By: Rich Fri, 11 Feb 2011 02:30:48 +0000 @ 6
Very true, although having the extra round helps the odds from 1995-onward

@16 It may seem like that now, but maybe not at the time. While Babe did have downright nutty stats by the end of 1926, he still wasn't known as much of a winner in a "big series." That was his 4th with the Yankees, and despite winning three with the Red Sox as a pitcher, he was just 1-3 with the Yankees. If you search newspaper articles from around that time (esp after the back-to-back losses in 1921-1922) you'll find many sportswriters saying he can't get it done when it counts.

Stupid sportswriters. Some things never change, eh?

By: Charles Saeger Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:18:57 +0000 Wow, that LI for Nixon was amazing. I knew it was tense at the time, but that's high.

By: Tmckelv Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:50:12 +0000 @21 John Autin,

It took me a while to figure out why you included the sac bunts in with the AB's when calculating Nixon's "Bunting Average", because, of course, sac bunts are typically not counted as AB's. But in the given situation you needed to figure out how the % of total bunts nixon has had that would have NOT resulted in an out. Nice, I never would have thought of that.

Using that number of .368 you would think it would be wise to bunt all the time, but the element of surprise counts somewhat in the success rate. And with the given situation (2 outs / tying run on 3rd), the surprise level may not have been too high. I just can't decide if it was a good play or bad play to bunt there. But if I had to choose, the bunt is probably the best way for him to get a ball in play on the ground...and any mishandle or poor throw and he will beat it out with that speed. I would say it was a good play for him to force the action there. I think his non-bunt AVG would have been higher if he were adept at putting the ball in play (on the ground) by swinging away, so the bunt was probably a good choice there.

By: John Autin Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:45:06 +0000 About Otis Nixon bunting into the last out:

We can't judge the strategy without knowing where the corner infielders were playing.

But ... consider that, in the years for which data are available, Nixon's career BA on bunts was .368 (and that's counting all sac bunts as AB), wheras his BA on non-bunts was .257.

BTW, in game 1 of the 2003 ALDS, in the bottom of the 12th inning, with 2 out and the bases loaded, Oakland catcher Ramon Hernandez dropped a bunt up the 3B line in front of Boston's Bill Mueller and beat it out to drive in the winning run. Hernandez had hit 21 HRs that year.

By: dukeofflatbush Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:09:14 +0000 @ 16 Justin
I guess your right. He already had 4 BB and 1 HR He probably had a cigar lit before he crossed the first base line.

@ 17 Panrell
Tying run, with two outs, with 3 of the best hitters in the league to follow.

@ 18 Cook

Yeah, I agree that Nixon had about equal chance via a bunt or swing, just such an odd way to see a series end.
But no about the Ruth sac. Gehrig was hitting 5th that day. And Ruth was walked 4 times with a HR to boot.

By: stan cook Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:48:13 +0000 I don't think the Nixon play was bad. A bunt single would have tied the game. He wasn't going to get any more than a single.

About the Ruth game. Was this the game where they had him sacrificing a couple of innings earlier. If I am not mistaken Ruth sacrificed leading to Gehrig being intentionally walked. I could easily be mixing up a couple of games.