Comments on: Most Games With 9+ IP Age 43+ This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Bastaducci Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:40:53 +0000 You gotta love seeing Moyers name up there considering how pitchers don't throw many 9 inning games anymore . If Moyer pitched in the complete game era he would probably be between Spahn and Neikro...if not higher.

By: Justin Bailey Mon, 27 Dec 2010 06:51:50 +0000 @12 - I would love to hear more about why you feel that Nolan Ryan was better than Clemens and Randy Johnson. I don't think I have ever heard someone make this claim before and I am curious to know more about your reasoning (I am not baiting you, I am genuinely interested).

By: Raphy Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:35:22 +0000 @ 12 "clemens and unit always broke down"

Clemens was in the top 10 in the league in games started 7 times, Johnson 9 and Ryan 9.

They all sound pretty durable to me.

By: rick fisher Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:21:54 +0000 ryan was the best power pitcher of the modern era. his durability and conditioning put him above clemens and big unit. took the ball every 4 days and went to work. clemens and unit always broke down

By: Raphy Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:16:16 +0000 Spartan Bill - Interesting story about Travers.

Out of curiosity, I calculated the game score for Dave Rowe in 1872. In the 1870s Rowe was an outfielder who occasionally pitched. In his one game pitched in 1872 he gave up 35 runs and finished with a game score of -72. Of course it was a different game back then, bit that's still a fun number to see.

By: Spartan Bill Sun, 26 Dec 2010 12:32:24 +0000 @#9

That scenario actually happened once, although just for a game

The 1912 Tigers staged a walkout while in Philadelphia and 7 players and 2 coaches fro, St. Joseph's Univ. were recruited at the last minute. They lost 24-2

Travers game Score that day was -52

By: Mike Felber Sat, 25 Dec 2010 23:30:09 +0000 What an arrogant & erroneous claim by B.B., even if not meant literally. Any average guy who miraculously was given a whole season to pitch would be the worst ever, who if left in for the game would often give up a record # of runs. Out of mercy the teams might stop around 20.

By: Cabriael Sat, 25 Dec 2010 16:32:37 +0000 Wasn't Nolan Ryan's no-hitters helped by your beloved umpires?

By: Mike Gaber Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:08:40 +0000 The Angles basically let Ryan go as a free agent after the 1979 season.

Though Ryan's strikeouts and no-hitters got him considerable media attention, he did not win over Angels general manager Buzzie Bavasi, who dismissed him as a flashy .500 pitcher (Ryan was 26–27 in the two years Bavasi was the GM for the Angels). When Bavasi let Ryan leave after a 16–14 record in the 1979 season, Bavasi remarked he only needed to replace Ryan with two 8–7 pitchers, adding, "I think my plumber could do that."

He later admitted that not re-signing Ryan was his biggest mistake as the Angels general manager.

By: John Autin Fri, 24 Dec 2010 20:37:42 +0000 Ryan was a phenomenon, take him for all in all....
Among my favorite Ryan stats:

Most games with 5+ walks, 1920-2010:
-- Ryan, 233
-- Bob Feller, 145
-- Bobo Newsom, 122
-- Sam McDowell, 100

Margin by which Ryan holds the Strikeout record over the #2 man: 17.2%
Margin by which Ryan holds the Walks record over the #2 man: 52.5%

I'm not down on him, by any means.
As a pitching phenomenon, he's easily top-10 in history.
As a pitcher, though, he's not in that same stratosphere.