Comments on: This ALCS is scratching my baseball itch http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62840 Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:04:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62840 The NLCS is on Fox, which is, at least in the big cities, a traditionally broadcast network. The ALCS is on TBS, which is a traditionally cable network. I knew that I would be away from home staying in hotels during part of this year's LCS's. I was glad that the series I am more interested in is on the traditionally broadcast network, more readily available on hotel TV's. As it turned out, every hotel room I was in had TBS in its line-up, maybe because I was in the Southeastern US, where its roots are. But I did have to miss the Tuesday NLCS game because its afternoon scheduling coincided with my travel time (although I would not have enjoyed seeing the Phillies shut out).

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By: Matt Y http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62660 Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:53:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62660 Good call #27, you're right. They did have a Monday Night Game but maybe the WS was off Monday Night last year.

2010 schedule I see no break.

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By: Fireworks http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62590 Fri, 22 Oct 2010 05:06:55 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62590 @26 Actually, Matt Y, IIRC the NFL didn't have a Sunday Night game last year at the beginning of the World Series. I may be misremembering though.

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By: Matt Y http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62385 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:41:42 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62385 Sunday and Monday night football still take place during the WS-- Those are locked in every year. As for 5th starters pitching in playoffs and playing 5 days in row, I just don't see a good reason to do it that way --5th starters are relevant in the playoffs, they become your long-man, which can be an important role if one of your pitchers bomb. I like 4th starters pitching, it adds more strategy and it's more representable of your full team - I like a more moderate midpoint --4th starters should required in every 7 game format (unless your #1 is pitching on short rest), and two travel days when teams switch location....and a reasonable number of off days b/w series' would be good as well. I don't see any reason to drastically change the format with no regard to history --just give us something more representative of what we had before big money from TV networks started calling ALL the shots.

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By: BSK http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62355 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:06:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62355 Evan-

Great point. I believe football also avoids Sunday/Monday night football games during the WS, if there is a game scheduled that night. Phooey.

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By: Evan http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62262 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:42:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62262 BSK @19

Even though the broadcasters and the advertisers can somewhat account for additional people watching games that are at a bar, they also realize that you are even less likely to watch and pay attention to the ads when you are at a bar than when you are at home. Ad rates are a lot more complicated than just total number of viewers - demographics of the viewers are heavily factored in as well.

Unfortunately the reality is that games aren't scheduled to maximize the number of people who can see them, but rather to maximize the revenue from the broadcasters. My perception is that in recent years (last 10-15 years) the major sports have made an effort to avoid scheduling things opposite each other so that they don't compete, which is another reason baseball might avoid the weekend during the postseason - to avoid competing with football.

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By: BSK http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62207 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:46:03 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62207 KT-

Additionally, the more "legitimate" the post-season is, the more legitimate the sport is. Would you watch 162 baseball games if the WS was decided by a coinflip? Probably not. As much as I love soccer, I struggle sometimes to watch it because the lack of modernization makes the results seem almost entirely random. At times, I think, "Why watch any of this, if the winner is going to be decided by a bunch of rules invented 100 years ago before we had digital clocks?" The more people think that the players and their interaction with the game itself determine the outcome, the more people will follow. When postseason success is dependent on getting the preferred schedule or whatever, people lose interest.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62206 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:37:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62206 KT, my thought is that if the more complete teams who earn the best regular-season records stand a better chance of winning the championship or at least moving deep into the playoffs, then fans will be more interested in following their teams on a daily basis.

If you were a Phillies fan in September when (despite me calling them "done" earlier) they had wrapped up a playoff berth pretty early on, who cared at all on days when the 4th and 5th starter were pitching? Everybody tuned in to see Roy, Roy, and Cole, but if the 4th and 5th starters mattered, people would tune in every day.

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62204 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:30:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62204 if the post-season were played more like the regular season, then fans would value regular-season games more and attendance and TV rating would go up.

Andy, I don't follow this line of reasoning at all. As I see it, the casual fan watching the playoffs won't care one way or the other, and the more devoted fan will prize the post-season more because it more closely replicates the playing conditions of the regular season. I have trouble seeing the "valuing effect" working back into the regular season, even for passionate fans.

Am I missing a factor that you've taken into account?

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By: LJF http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8791/comment-page-1#comment-62190 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:28:45 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8791#comment-62190 I, too, have been thinking about this. While it was easy to go with 3 starters in the postseason (i.e. WS) in the days before divisional play, it seems the expansion of the playoffs over the years should make it more like the regular season, not less. At least bringing the 4th starter into play feels like a better representation of the team that played a 6 month regular season.

And the long delays between series are infuriating. It's no wonder fans tune out. By the time the LCS or WS gets started, the casual fan has forgotten about what happened in the round before. It's almost impossible to feed on the excitement from round to round.

BSK, I'm in my early 50's, but even so I like to saddle up to a bar (or my own fridge) to watch a game as well. I am much more likely to get together with friends on a weekend to watch a game when I don't need to worry about getitng my kid or myself to bed on time to get up the next day. And that shared comraderie is part of the enjoyment of the game. It's just not the same sitting around by myself wearing sweats and deciding if I dare watch one more inning, or if that will make the next work day that much more difficult.

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