Comments on: Which Staff Had the Most Wins in Their Future?

By: Friday Links (22 Oct 10) – Ducksnorts

Friday Links (22 Oct 10) – Ducksnorts — Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:18:56 +0000

[...] Which Staff Had the Most Wins in Their Future? (Baseball-Reference). This has nothing to do with the Padres but it’s a fun study worth perusing. [...]

By: TheGoof

TheGoof — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:59:23 +0000

Seems odd to me that there are no teams before 1964. I would have thought one of Connie Mack's teams would be up there, or McGraw's, or some other old crew. The 1914 A's had three outstanding players just starting their careers (Shawkey 23, Bush 21 and Pennock 20), plus Plank at the end of his career. The 1919 Red Sox had several great young pitchers, including Bush and Pennock again. Hoyt was only 19. Is it perhaps in part because there are so many more pitchers these days?

By: DocRostov

DocRostov — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:57:53 +0000

I imagine that in a decade or so, the mid-2000s Indians will rate pretty highly here.

Sabathia, Lee, Carmona, Westbrook... sigh.

By: Keeping Score: What the Future May Hold for Giants’ and Phillies’ Pitchers – NYTimes.com » Baseball-Reference Blog » Blog Archive

Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:51:59 +0000

[...] up on yesterday's post about "Future Wins", today's Keeping Score column uses Bill James' Similarity Scores to estimate how many more wins we [...]

By: miken

miken — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 04:10:45 +0000

Noone cares about the relief guys that go on to win games. The original version was so much better.

By: Izzy

Izzy — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 02:47:46 +0000

Wonder where Today's Giants will end up finishing...

By: dennis

dennis — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:47:17 +0000

Very intriguing stat.....but I m not sure of its value...what is an eternal truth about baseball is that good to great pitchers are in high demand and almost always in short suppñy. Pitchers that people expect to be the pitcher of a generation flame out...sometimes they go on to greatness....

I remember the 69 mets I lived in new York and was a fan and what they did that year still makes me smile...because other tnen the extraordinary pitching, the rest was just constant platooning by Hodges and both Cleon Jones and Tommy Agee having banner years.

It s easy to remember Seaver and Kossman and the young Nolan Ryan...what I also remember was Don Cardwell a jouneyman picher and the fourth starter who gave them a lot of innings and was way better then his 8 and 10 record indicated.

By: Basmati

Basmati — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:59:58 +0000

PS: The best 'recent' team I could think of was the 98 Blue Jays who I make it have so far totalled 841 wins with Halladay and Carpenter good bets to win another 100 each possible. They've certainly got a great shot at 1000. Other than that I thought of the 2003 Marlins who had a very young group who still have several years left - Beckett, Burnett, Pavano, Penny, Willis.

By: Basmati

Basmati — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:40:54 +0000

This is a great list. I also would be interested in seeing who traded away the most potential as it were, and also be interested to see a list like this but only including wins or WAR for the team they were on at that time - ie discard anything after they moved on. This would be interesting to see who had the rotation with the most potential and kept it together to get the most out of it. I would imagine this would lean towards older teams when player movement was less common.

By: kingcrab

kingcrab — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:48:13 +0000

contract dispute shipped him to philly for rick wise