Comments on: Teams with the most players appearing in 150+ games This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tony Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:09:17 +0000 Also, he was probably the most prominent major leaguer with Tourette's.

By: Tony Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:08:44 +0000 @26 -

Eisey! The 1993 Phillies are my favorite team of all time. Being from the Philly suburbs and 31 years old, they were the only pennant winning team from age 4 to age 29. They had true platoons in left and right, with a left-handed hitter to start against righties and a right-handed hitter to start against lefties. Then the other guy would usually come in as a pinch-hitter against a reliever. Milt Thompson and Inky in left, and Wes Chamberlain and Eisey in right. They all started between 73 and 86 games, and appeared in between 96 and 129 games, except for Eisey's 153.

By: Zachary Thu, 30 Sep 2010 04:27:31 +0000 @5

Bench was a great hitter, but it was that he was also a great defensive catcher that really made him special. While Mauer isn't in Bench's class defensively, he's still very good. Combine that with the very real possibility that Mauer is the better hitter of the two and the Twins have one of the most valuable commodities in baseball history. How can they turn away the best catcher since the '70s, and maybe the best ever? It's like how Bobby Orr could have played on the wing and scored even more goals ... but that would have lessened his brilliance by robbing him of his special rarity.

By: Gerry Thu, 30 Sep 2010 04:22:22 +0000 Mike Gaber #28, in 1968 Randy Hundley caught 160 games.

By: steven Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:15:02 +0000 The 1964 World Champion Cardinals had four players appearing in at least 160 games: Boyer, Groat, White and Flood.

By: Neil L Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:44:55 +0000 Way too much good stuff in this discussion to respond to it all intelligently!

I hate working all day and into mid-evening, then trying to catch up on all the quality posts put up during the day.

An important question, perhaps, about Andy's original list is to what extent does a stable starting line-up correlate with regular-season and post-season success?

I don't think all the 150+ game player-seasons can be explained by pinch hitting and defensive replacements. Somewhere along the line, there have to be managers with a low tolerance for risk who will fill out their lineup cards by reflex, not giving younger players a chance or wanting to shake things up.

In other words, is a stable starting lineup more a function of a manager's personality or of the actual talent he has on the field?

By: Basmati Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:37:03 +0000 Why do you need to put Mauer at 1st and bench Morneau? They have a DH in the AL. Just put the best defensive guy at 1B and the worst at DH. Of course having said that it's probably easier to find a DH who can hit as good as Mauer and give the guy a rest. As good as he is his value in that he is a great hitting catcher, but his numbers this year are more in line with the rest of his career and are not off the charts as in 2009.

As for I-Rod I wonder how long he will hold the record for games caught. He has 2388 games in 20 years. Jason Kendall has 2025 games in 15 years. The only other guy who looks like he might compete with that at the moment is Yadier Molina who has 791 games in 7 years and has a reputation for catching a lot of games.

By: BSK Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:03:10 +0000 David-

I think it also depends on who's spot Mauer takes when he's playing but not at catcher. If you put him at 1B and bench Morneau (when he's healthy), have you really made your team better? Now, if you are going to give certain guys days off regardless, I could see such a strategy making sense. But if getting Mauer into more games means Morneau into few, that MIGHT not be the trade-off you want. It also depends on who slots in at C.

Note: I know a lot of stats rate Mauer as better than Morneau, but my understanding is that is largely predicated on their defense and positional adjustment. Of course, it's still possible that Mauer would be better than Morneau when playing the same position.

By: Mike Gaber Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:29:11 +0000 Speaking of Catchers and Cincinnati:

I remember in 1944 a big deal was made about Cincinnati Reds catcher Ray (Iron Man Mueller) catching in all 154 games. In fact there was a tie game that year so he actually caught 155 games.

I checked the team fielding stats and there were a few other catchers who played for the Reds that year, so he apparently did get some late inning catching relief on occasion.

Since the schedule has increased to 162 games has another catcher caught in over 155 games in a season.

By: David Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:02:25 +0000 To David in Toledo (#23):

Right after I posted, I noticed how many other catchers there were. I was just surprised. I mean, NOBODY uses catchers that way anymore, but it could probably be a good roster solution considering that most teams carry 12-13 pitchers. Getting more use out of a catcher seems like a good idea. But also, it's just incredible the workloads that some of these guys took on. No one outside of Jason Kendall does anything close to that year after year, and that's why it surprised me.

Frankly, I mentioned Mauer because my wife is a Twins fan, and I have a vested rooting interest in them. I thought this actually might be a good strategic solution to a) get him more at bats and b) allow him to not have to catch so many games. I mean, the guy has a great bat, and it would be a shame to see him either peter out early, or just play in only 120 games rather than all of them. Just a thought. I just think that it's unusual to have a catcher with that good of a bat that he's more valuable than the outfielders on the team, but in the case of Bench and Mauer, I think that would be true.