Comments on: Top Player Added to Franchise History Pages

By: Lawrence Azrin

Lawrence Azrin — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:42:14 +0000

"John Q Says: HOF Red Schoendienst, George Kell, Fred Lindstrom, Pie Traynor, Travis Jackson, George Kelly, never were the top WAR player on their team." John Q, all of the above players (except Traynor) were selected by the Veterans Committee, including several of the "Friends of Frankie Frisch", as many 1970s/early 80s Veterans picks are known (due to Bill James' HOF book, no doubt). This does NOT surprise me...

By: Basmati

Basmati — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:15:43 +0000

Perhaps not surprisingly, Colorado have been led only 3 times by pitchers in 17 years. Jimenez is on course to be the 4th.

In contrast, Arizona have been led only once by a position player in 12 years, with Young on course to make it 2.

By: John Q

John Q — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:08:13 +0000

Alan Trammell, Keith Hernandez and Dale Murphy led their teams 6 times and aren't in the HOF.

By: John Q

John Q — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:02:18 +0000

Good one Paul Drye.

By: John Q

John Q — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:01:56 +0000

I was thinking about an eligible non HOF who led his team in WAR the most time and I think it's Rick Reuschel. I'm not sure if it's a record but Rick Reuschel led his team 8 times, 7 Cubs, 1 Pirates, and isn't in the HOF I think Bobby Grich has the most for a position player with 7 times, 4 with the Angels and 3 with the Orioles.

By: Pageup

Pageup — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:06:16 +0000

strangely, from a raw production standpoint Ruth's '20 and '21 season seem better, but his '23 season has the highest war ever

By: Paul Drye

Paul Drye — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:07:44 +0000

John Q -- As usual, there's pitching-related stuff in the misty past that trounces the modern era. Gehrig may have lost out with 12 WAR, but Dave Foutz had 13.7 WAR in 1886 and came second on his team to Bob Caruthers.

By: steven

steven — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:47:17 +0000

Thanks for correcting me. I don't know how I could have forgot "Skates." Another Smith (other than Ozzie), may have been equally as valued by the Cardinals. They traded 1964 MVP Ken Boyer for Charley Smith, then the following off-season, obtained Roger Maris for Smith. Charley was indirectly responsible for back-to-back World Series appearances by the Cardinals.

By: rico petrocelli

rico petrocelli — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:57:17 +0000

Yaz with the highest WaR in Sox history.in 67 over 12...impossibly dreamy year

By: TheGoof

TheGoof — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:29:39 +0000

Steven, that's Lonnie Smith. He played key roles for several teams that reached the postseason, five World Series appearances with four different teams.