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	<title>Comments on: Nine Innings &#8211; No Runs &#8211; Both Pitchers</title>
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		<title>By: DoubleDiamond</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7241/comment-page-1#comment-30136</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something was mentioned by one of the Phillies broadcasters in the home half of one of the extra innings that always irks me, but no one else has ever pointed out the fallacy of it.

The score was tied at 0-0, and there was one out and a runner on second. The batter was intentionally walked. The announcer mentioned that this guy who was being walked did not matter.

WRONG!

(The remainder of this post concerns situations in the home half of the 9th and extra innings in a tie game. Slight adjustments can be made for situations in which the home team trails by a small margin.)

If the runner on 2nd got thrown out at home (or 3rd or picked off 2nd) before the 2nd out was made, the guy who got the intentional walk would suddenly represent the go-ahead run.

The guy who got the intentional walk would not have mattered if there had been two out. On the other hand, if there had been nobody out and the bases had become loaded with two more batters without the original runner scoring or making an out, the two additional batters-turned-into-runners could have mattered, if the lead two runners were cut down on the base paths for the first two outs of the inning.

It&#039;s true that if the number of runners already on base equals or exceeds the number of outs still left in the inning, new runners don&#039;t matter. Well, in a way they do, because if a batter hits a walk-off homer, they count in various statistics such as runs scored, RBIs, and ERA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something was mentioned by one of the Phillies broadcasters in the home half of one of the extra innings that always irks me, but no one else has ever pointed out the fallacy of it.</p>
<p>The score was tied at 0-0, and there was one out and a runner on second. The batter was intentionally walked. The announcer mentioned that this guy who was being walked did not matter.</p>
<p>WRONG!</p>
<p>(The remainder of this post concerns situations in the home half of the 9th and extra innings in a tie game. Slight adjustments can be made for situations in which the home team trails by a small margin.)</p>
<p>If the runner on 2nd got thrown out at home (or 3rd or picked off 2nd) before the 2nd out was made, the guy who got the intentional walk would suddenly represent the go-ahead run.</p>
<p>The guy who got the intentional walk would not have mattered if there had been two out. On the other hand, if there had been nobody out and the bases had become loaded with two more batters without the original runner scoring or making an out, the two additional batters-turned-into-runners could have mattered, if the lead two runners were cut down on the base paths for the first two outs of the inning.</p>
<p>It's true that if the number of runners already on base equals or exceeds the number of outs still left in the inning, new runners don't matter. Well, in a way they do, because if a batter hits a walk-off homer, they count in various statistics such as runs scored, RBIs, and ERA.</p>
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		<title>By: A Game Score of 90 Early in a Career &#187; Baseball-Reference Blog &#187; Blog Archive</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7241/comment-page-1#comment-29928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Game Score of 90 Early in a Career &#187; Baseball-Reference Blog &#187; Blog Archive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] another post, reader Scott V. wrote the following about Travis Wood&#039;s game score of 93 yesterday: This was Wood&#039;s third major [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] another post, reader Scott V. wrote the following about Travis Wood&#39;s game score of 93 yesterday: This was Wood&#39;s third major [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott V.</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7241/comment-page-1#comment-29927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott V.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scratch the previous thought, kinda. Alvarez&#039;s no-no in his second game was an 89, due to the walks. Forgot about Marichal&#039;s 96 game score in his debut that was talked about so much with Strasburg&#039;s debut.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scratch the previous thought, kinda. Alvarez's no-no in his second game was an 89, due to the walks. Forgot about Marichal's 96 game score in his debut that was talked about so much with Strasburg's debut.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott V.</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7241/comment-page-1#comment-29923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott V.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is it with this happening to pitchers so early in their career? This was Wood&#039;s third major league start, and that comparable game referenced to that Ryan Rupe pitched? His fourth major league start. 

I&#039;d be interested to know the earliest 90+ game score efforts in a player&#039;s career, I&#039;m sure it&#039;s been done even sooner (Wilson Alvarez?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it with this happening to pitchers so early in their career? This was Wood's third major league start, and that comparable game referenced to that Ryan Rupe pitched? His fourth major league start. </p>
<p>I'd be interested to know the earliest 90+ game score efforts in a player's career, I'm sure it's been done even sooner (Wilson Alvarez?).</p>
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		<title>By: JWL</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7241/comment-page-1#comment-29914</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JWL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: 6

What is also interesting is that it wasn&#039;t the only game I attended that ended with a 2-1 Padres win over the Mets in 14 innings.
This was the other one- http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SDN/SDN200604210.shtml

Also, it&#039;s not like I&#039;m a season ticket holder who has attended 500+ games in my life. I have only attended 38 games and this dates back to 1986. Yet, two of them have been 14 inning 2-1 Padres wins over the Mets- one at New York and one at San Diego.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 6</p>
<p>What is also interesting is that it wasn't the only game I attended that ended with a 2-1 Padres win over the Mets in 14 innings.<br />
This was the other one- <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SDN/SDN200604210.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SDN/SDN200604210.shtml</a></p>
<p>Also, it's not like I'm a season ticket holder who has attended 500+ games in my life. I have only attended 38 games and this dates back to 1986. Yet, two of them have been 14 inning 2-1 Padres wins over the Mets- one at New York and one at San Diego.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Clingenpeel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Clingenpeel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion, the Koufax perfect game {I think it was in &#039;65} was probably a better-pitched game than either this one or the double no-hitter by Hippo Vaughan and Two-Ton Toney, even though Bob Hendley got nailed for an unearned run in this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, the Koufax perfect game {I think it was in '65} was probably a better-pitched game than either this one or the double no-hitter by Hippo Vaughan and Two-Ton Toney, even though Bob Hendley got nailed for an unearned run in this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Round</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two great ones - the double no-hitter of Toney / Vaughn, and the Harvey Haddix perfect game!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two great ones - the double no-hitter of Toney / Vaughn, and the Harvey Haddix perfect game!</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone see a definitive replay of the ball that Halladay hit down the first base line in the 3rd inning. It really looked fair in the only replay that I saw. As the game progressed I kept having this thought of what an ironic situation it would be if Wood were able to pitch a perfect game because of a blown call by the first base umpire. The fact that it was Halladay hitting the ball, who was able to pitch a perfect game earlier this season with the help of a very generous strike zone, made it all the more strange.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone see a definitive replay of the ball that Halladay hit down the first base line in the 3rd inning. It really looked fair in the only replay that I saw. As the game progressed I kept having this thought of what an ironic situation it would be if Wood were able to pitch a perfect game because of a blown call by the first base umpire. The fact that it was Halladay hitting the ball, who was able to pitch a perfect game earlier this season with the help of a very generous strike zone, made it all the more strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Mueller</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing beats a great pitching duel!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing beats a great pitching duel!</p>
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		<title>By: BSK</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess it&#039;s not so much scary as it is interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it's not so much scary as it is interesting.</p>
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