Comments on: Worst wins

By: Tomepp

Tomepp — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:57:14 +0000

Kahuna: You're right, I didn't actually look at the box score and was assuming that the 'App,Dec' column was complete; thanks for pointing that out. (I always like learning something new.) Though I vaguely remember Lemongello as a player, I mainly remember his name because it keeps popping up on "all time foods" type of lineups. I'm surprised that you hadn't run across it in the same way, Andy.

By: Jeff James

Jeff James — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:58:08 +0000

Never heard of Mark Lemongello? As far as reading about him, you must have been
pudding it off

By: Gerry

Gerry — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:37:38 +0000

Also not to be confused with Mike Limongello, http://www.pba.com/Bowlers/HallOfFame/269 of the Pro Bowlers Hall of Fame.

By: buckweaver

buckweaver — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:32:34 +0000

>>>How have I never heard of Mark Lemongello before? That is one of the coolest names I have ever heard.>>> For the record, Mark is not related to the Orangejello and Lemonjello brothers of "You Gotta Play Hurt" fame. :)

By: Gerry

Gerry — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:17:04 +0000

Rommel should be on top of the 3rd table, winning pitchers who allowed the most baserunners. 29 hits and 9 walks puts him streets ahead of Feller's stingy 24 baserunner effort.

By: Charles Saeger

Charles Saeger — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:15:32 +0000

I see Russ Meyer had the game with the lowest game score where he actually won the game. I wonder what he did to bust up that one.

By: Kahuna Tuna

Kahuna Tuna — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:49:39 +0000

According to a post on this blog (about halfway down), quoting The Baseball Encyclopedia, the five-inning rule became official in 1950. See also the on-line version of the Baseball Digest Official Baseball Rules for 1950, pp. 56-57.

By: Kahuna Tuna

Kahuna Tuna — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:29:59 +0000

Kahuna: I don't think you're reading the table correctly. In the 5/5/1925 Dutch Leonard game, Detroit got the win, but Dutch got an ND. The pitcher listed got the win only if a 'W' is recorded in the 'App,Dec' (Appearance, Decisions) column. Tomepp, the table criteria specify "Pitcher Won, as Starter." I think you're inferring a ND for Leonard because the Play Index apparently doesn't generate "App,Dec" information for games played before 1952. At any rate, I didn't refer to the table but to the box scores, which show Leonard as the winning pitcher. So does Leonard's 1925 game log. The five-inning rule didn't exist back in 1925. As you said, "there was . . . a time before they added the minimum of 5 IP for starters rule when it was also possible to get a win even in a full-length game." The 5/5/25 Leonard game and this Bill Sherdel win on 7/13/28 are two examples from Andy's list. I'm having trouble determining when the five-inning rule was first put into effect.

By: Andy

Andy — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:13:51 +0000

Nope, I've got lots of other info in there.

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:13:05 +0000

Sorry Andy, but my impatentience may have ruined your post for tommorow