Comments on: Adrian Beltre’s bases loaded walk

By: TheGoof

TheGoof — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:18:53 +0000

I was at that Tommy John game. The Yankees manhandled the Brewers, so it didn't matter. It left us Yankee fans laughing hysterically about it. What happened was that he botched the grounder, then, with the runner already going to be safe, fired it into right field. Then he cut off the throw home, Winfield's attempt to nail the lead runner, and fired it wide to the plate, scoring both runs.

By: eorns

eorns — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:17:02 +0000

What a great list! It reminds me of Tommy John's famous 3-error play on 7/27/88. The play description reads: Reached on E1 (Ground Ball); Gantner Scores/Adv on E1 (throw); Leonard Scores/Adv on E1 (throw)/unER. Interestingly, he made only 1 other error that year. And in his 26 season career, he averaged 2.65 errors per YEAR!

By: SJBlonger

SJBlonger — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:01:50 +0000

No problem, Andy.

I have since discovered a bug in my routine that was excluding the NL games, and also elimimated a couple of the AL games because there were actually two errors by the same player on the play. If you think it is appropriate, I will repost the list here.

By: Andy

Andy — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:17:04 +0000

SJBlonger your comment had gotten spammed but Raphy just pointed it out to me and I saved it--thanks for posting the 4-base error games.

By: SJBlonger

SJBlonger — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:19:38 +0000

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I should point out that all 10 of those four-base errors were in the American League. I also discovered that I actually attended the 1983 game, though I have no memory of Ron Kittle's blunder.

By: SJBlonger

SJBlonger — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:49:02 +0000

For the Retrosheet period (1952-2009), I found only 10 plays that resulted in four-base errors. Of these, two were sacrifice bunts that were thrown away by the pitcher, seven were misplayed fly balls, and one was a popup down the right field line misplayed by the second baseman (the only one of the 10 that allowed three runs to score). Here are the links:

pitcher:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET197105070.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR198204130.shtml

second baseman:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA199108230.shtml

outfielders:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIN/MIN196409300.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/WS2/WS2196910010.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SEA/SEA197805050.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA198208010.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIN/MIN198309130.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA198606090.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA200905080.shtml

By: DoubleDiamond

DoubleDiamond — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:29:04 +0000

I wonder how often 4-base errors occur. I'm talking about an error in which the batter makes it all the way around as the result of an error only, not a hit (single, double, or triple) followed by an error that causes the batter to go on to score. Actually, in the play that caused me to bring this up right now, Jayson Werth against the Diamondbacks last night, there was some controversy as to whether the outfielder had held onto the ball long enough to record an out. In the end, it didn't matter much: although the play put the Phillies up 2-0 for the moment, Arizona ended up winning the game.