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	<title>Comments on: Adam Dunn: Strawberry or Mantle?</title>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gswitter--not bad points, but let me counter:

1) Nobody is looking at Dunn&#039;s SB totals and suggesting that he&#039;s a speed demon or that his stolen bases make a significant contribution (clearly they are worth a lot less than 40 HR...) To me, though, that many SB with such a high % success suggests he must be a pretty good baserunner, and have at least reasonably decent speed. Compare him to McGwire, who had 12 SB in his entire career, plus 8 CS (60% success rate), and as we know was slow as dirt and not a good baserunner. I think there is a distinct difference between the two players in that regard, and that if their power numbers ended up the same, Dunn would be a clearly more valuable player in the long haul.

2) Seven years is a lot. It&#039;s true that McGwire started off strong, averaging 36 HR in his first 6 yeas (let&#039;s ignore his cup of coffee in 1986 for this discussion.) But that included one dreadful year, 1991, where he slumped to a .201 average and had just 22 HR and 75 RBI in a full season. It also included two other seasons where he batted in the .230s and had an OBP in the .330s. (It&#039;s true that Dunn had one bad season in 2003 as well, although not nearly as bad as McGwire&#039;s &#039;91.) Now if you add in the 7th season, 1993, McGwire got hurt and his totals suffer. As we know, McGwire did miss a lot of games in the second half of his career, and his body deteriorated quickly after age 35. My point in all this is that Dunn has been a LITTLE BIT better and a LITTLE BIT more resilient than McGwire so far, and to my mind gives him the potential to finish in a higher bracket than McGwire. Dunn&#039;s got a long way to go yet, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gswitter--not bad points, but let me counter:</p>
<p>1) Nobody is looking at Dunn's SB totals and suggesting that he's a speed demon or that his stolen bases make a significant contribution (clearly they are worth a lot less than 40 HR...) To me, though, that many SB with such a high % success suggests he must be a pretty good baserunner, and have at least reasonably decent speed. Compare him to McGwire, who had 12 SB in his entire career, plus 8 CS (60% success rate), and as we know was slow as dirt and not a good baserunner. I think there is a distinct difference between the two players in that regard, and that if their power numbers ended up the same, Dunn would be a clearly more valuable player in the long haul.</p>
<p>2) Seven years is a lot. It's true that McGwire started off strong, averaging 36 HR in his first 6 yeas (let's ignore his cup of coffee in 1986 for this discussion.) But that included one dreadful year, 1991, where he slumped to a .201 average and had just 22 HR and 75 RBI in a full season. It also included two other seasons where he batted in the .230s and had an OBP in the .330s. (It's true that Dunn had one bad season in 2003 as well, although not nearly as bad as McGwire's '91.) Now if you add in the 7th season, 1993, McGwire got hurt and his totals suffer. As we know, McGwire did miss a lot of games in the second half of his career, and his body deteriorated quickly after age 35. My point in all this is that Dunn has been a LITTLE BIT better and a LITTLE BIT more resilient than McGwire so far, and to my mind gives him the potential to finish in a higher bracket than McGwire. Dunn's got a long way to go yet, though.</p>
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		<title>By: gswitter</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/543/comment-page-1#comment-3712</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How are Dunn&#039;s 57 SBs in seven years even significant? 8 SBs per year (in reality 6, since a third of his SBs were in one season) from a 76% success rate amounts to roughly one, maybe two, bases above break-even.

I&#039;m not knockin&#039; Dunn - I like him too - but it&#039;s funny to see the love for him here, given the all the recent negative comments about McGwire (minus the SBs, he was Dunn through the first seven years of his career).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are Dunn's 57 SBs in seven years even significant? 8 SBs per year (in reality 6, since a third of his SBs were in one season) from a 76% success rate amounts to roughly one, maybe two, bases above break-even.</p>
<p>I'm not knockin' Dunn - I like him too - but it's funny to see the love for him here, given the all the recent negative comments about McGwire (minus the SBs, he was Dunn through the first seven years of his career).</p>
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		<title>By: ToddCoffeyCuffLinks</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Adam Dunn. I love you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Adam Dunn. I love you.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/543/comment-page-1#comment-3695</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, it would be nice if the PI could somehow exclude a first year that was just a momentary call-up. I&#039;m sure there are other players who would make this list as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it would be nice if the PI could somehow exclude a first year that was just a momentary call-up. I'm sure there are other players who would make this list as well.</p>
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		<title>By: BunnyWrangler</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/543/comment-page-1#comment-3691</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If not for his three at-bats in 1993, Chipper Jones would have made both of these lists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not for his three at-bats in 1993, Chipper Jones would have made both of these lists.</p>
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		<title>By: settes</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/543/comment-page-1#comment-3689</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s incredible how much he strikes out though, nearly double than some of the other TTO guys on there]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's incredible how much he strikes out though, nearly double than some of the other TTO guys on there</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely true. The second list is just interesting, but I don&#039;t expect Dunn to become Wade Boggs or Ted Williams, or even Frank Thomas. He&#039;s got more of a shot at Bagwell or Kiner, or even Mantle, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely true. The second list is just interesting, but I don't expect Dunn to become Wade Boggs or Ted Williams, or even Frank Thomas. He's got more of a shot at Bagwell or Kiner, or even Mantle, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Raphy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the first list is a better indicator because Dunn&#039;s numbers are similar to the player&#039;s listed.  In the second list he is no where near the other players statistically.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the first list is a better indicator because Dunn's numbers are similar to the player's listed.  In the second list he is no where near the other players statistically.</p>
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