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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3320/comment-page-1#comment-9893</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The pitcher who is charged with the run that loses the game is almost always the losing pitcher, other than in some unusual decision situations. Therefore, if a guy comes in, inherits one or or more runners, and allows those runners to score and they represent the winning runs, then it is the previous pitcher who receives the loss.

Think about it this way..let&#039;s say the game is tied and the pitcher walks the bases loaded with no outs, and goes to a 3-0 count on the next batter. Then the manager brings in a reliever. Let&#039;s say that reliever comes back to strike out the batter, and the next batter, but with 2 outs gives up a 5-hop grounder that goes for an infield hit, allowing the winning run to score. Do you feel that the reliever deserves the loss? No, clearly the previous pitcher deserves the loss. This is an extreme example, but it&#039;s why the rules are written the way they are. Inherited runners are the responsibility of the previous pitcher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pitcher who is charged with the run that loses the game is almost always the losing pitcher, other than in some unusual decision situations. Therefore, if a guy comes in, inherits one or or more runners, and allows those runners to score and they represent the winning runs, then it is the previous pitcher who receives the loss.</p>
<p>Think about it this way..let's say the game is tied and the pitcher walks the bases loaded with no outs, and goes to a 3-0 count on the next batter. Then the manager brings in a reliever. Let's say that reliever comes back to strike out the batter, and the next batter, but with 2 outs gives up a 5-hop grounder that goes for an infield hit, allowing the winning run to score. Do you feel that the reliever deserves the loss? No, clearly the previous pitcher deserves the loss. This is an extreme example, but it's why the rules are written the way they are. Inherited runners are the responsibility of the previous pitcher.</p>
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		<title>By: damthesehigheels</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3320/comment-page-1#comment-9892</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And sorry that&#039;s off topic.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And sorry that's off topic.....</p>
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		<title>By: damthesehigheels</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confused as to how Isringhausen picked up the loss in that second game shown.  I realize (and fully understand) the fact that the game winning run was his runner but when Isringhausen left the game it was tied then Service actually gave up the run.  

I guess what it comes down to is, to me, in a game with a walk off play (hit, walk, whatever) .... how can the last pitcher not be the losing pitcher of record if he came in with the game tied, then physically lost the game for his team?  Is it not Service&#039;s job to get that last out, and therefore have the game continue on...

And again, I understand why it&#039;s Isringhausen&#039;s run given up in the box score... but is the Win Loss really that simple and doesn&#039;t take into account what actually happened in the game?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm confused as to how Isringhausen picked up the loss in that second game shown.  I realize (and fully understand) the fact that the game winning run was his runner but when Isringhausen left the game it was tied then Service actually gave up the run.  </p>
<p>I guess what it comes down to is, to me, in a game with a walk off play (hit, walk, whatever) .... how can the last pitcher not be the losing pitcher of record if he came in with the game tied, then physically lost the game for his team?  Is it not Service's job to get that last out, and therefore have the game continue on...</p>
<p>And again, I understand why it's Isringhausen's run given up in the box score... but is the Win Loss really that simple and doesn't take into account what actually happened in the game?</p>
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		<title>By: ImAShark2</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3320/comment-page-1#comment-9888</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got 7 for the first one and 6 for the other, but I just counted the 2nd one quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got 7 for the first one and 6 for the other, but I just counted the 2nd one quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyTwisto</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3320/comment-page-1#comment-9887</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure if I&#039;m  counting correctly, but it appears the 1st game had 6 lead changes, and the 2nd had 5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if I'm  counting correctly, but it appears the 1st game had 6 lead changes, and the 2nd had 5.</p>
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		<title>By: ImAShark2</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3320/comment-page-1#comment-9885</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those were some gnarlilicious games. Also the record for most lead changes in a game was set in 1995 I think, but I can&#039;t find the game anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those were some gnarlilicious games. Also the record for most lead changes in a game was set in 1995 I think, but I can't find the game anymore.</p>
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