Comments on: 20 Wins and Under 200 Innings

By: mikeyjax

mikeyjax — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:15:28 +0000

Thanks for the additional info Oscar Did you happen to notice the fact that Santorini's OWN error allowed his 4 runs to be UNER! He seemed to be a good hitting pitcher. The next year he hits a HR in an EXPANSION BOWL game on the same day his former teammates get no-hit by the CUBBIES!

Still waiting on the 1st contestant to tell me bout Grim - c'mon folks!

By: Johnny Twisto

Johnny Twisto — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:15:15 +0000

I noted a while ago that there is a IP/10 limit for starting pitchers. For any number of IP, only 1 or 2 pitchers have managed to win 1/10 that many games. That is, only 1 or 2 pitchers won 25 games while pitching less than 250 IP. It's true for 150 IP, 210 IP, 350 IP, whatever.

By: OscarAzocar

OscarAzocar — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:41:27 +0000

All zeros is not as easy as it sounds because you have to lose without giving up an earned run.
Its happened 11 times since 1901. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/wYeP
6 players did it for a career. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/YeWh

By: mikeyjax

mikeyjax — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:07:13 +0000

Thanks Oscar - I thought I would have gotten a reply on Bob Grim's place 'in the world' 1st! Anybody?

By: OscarAzocar

OscarAzocar — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:57:17 +0000

Note post five was exact. Post 6 allowed for a slight variance. With the same variance post 5 would be longer.

By: OscarAzocar

OscarAzocar — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:55:58 +0000

For a career:

Last First StartYr EndYr W L WP% ERA
Adkins Doc 1902 1903 1 1 0.500 5.00
Blaeholder,Geo. 1925 1936 104 125 0.454 4.54
Carrick Bill 1898 1902 63 89 0.414 4.14
Cole Bert 1921 1927 28 32 0.467 4.67
Donohue Jim 1961 1962 6 8 0.429 4.29
Guardado Eddie 1993 2006 41 55 0.427 4.27
Hassler Andy 1971 1985 44 71 0.383 3.83
Hudson Luke 2002 2006 17 17 0.500 5.00
Ogden Jack 1918 1932 25 34 0.424 4.24
Robertson,Jer. 2002 2004 16 12 0.571 5.71
Valdez Carlos 1995 1998 1 1 0.500 5.00
West Lefty 1944 1945 3 4 0.429 4.29

By: OscarAzocar

OscarAzocar — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:26:46 +0000

Year Player Team League W L ERA Win%
1913 Steele,Bill SLN NL 4 4 5.00 0.500
1919 Jones,Sam BOS AL 12 20 3.75 0.375
1939 Errickson,Dick BSN NL 6 9 4.00 0.400
1950 Johnson,Don NYA AL 1 0 10.00 1.000
1959 Hoeft,Billy DET AL 1 1 5.00 0.500
1964 Coombs,Danny HOU NL 1 1 5.00 0.500
1964 Meyer,Bob LAA AL 1 1 5.00 0.500
1970 Drago,Dick KCA AL 9 15 3.75 0.375
1972 Riddleberger,D. CLE AL 1 3 2.50 0.250
1986 Schulze,Don CLE AL 4 4 5.00 0.500
1988 Horton,Ricky LAN NL 1 1 5.00 0.500
1989 Powell,Dennis SEA AL 2 2 5.00 0.500
1997 Mlicki,Dave NYN NL 8 12 4.00 0.400
1997 Pugh,Tim DET AL 1 1 5.00 0.500
1998 Dreifort,Darren LAN NL 8 12 4.00 0.400
2000 Drew,Tim CLE AL 1 0 10.00 1.000

By: mikeyjax

mikeyjax — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:59:37 +0000

Ok guys - what is Bob Grim's place in baseball lore? Also - I will repost this here since it has gotten swallowed up - when we were talking bout Deron Johnson's 19-75 thing the other week. Even though it's not quite the same - Ike Delock for the 1960 Red Sox had a winning %age of .474 and an an ERA of 4.74. Anybody else know of an occurence like this? And all zeroes don't count!

By: vonhayes

vonhayes — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:42:25 +0000

Wins aside, do you feel that you're less impressed with some of Pedro's untouchable ERA+'s in the late 90's/early 00's because he went so many less innings than guys like, say, Steve Carlton or Sandy Koufax or Bob Gibson? Or does the sheer quality of his performance outweigh all that?

By: OscarAzocar

OscarAzocar — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:08:17 +0000

Beckett's one complete game will tie him with 10 other pitchers for second place on the list of fewest complete games by a 20 game winner. In 2000 Roger Clemens managed to do it without throwing any.