Comments on: 1st Inning HR By Visiting Players In Post-Season Sudden Death Games This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mark Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:24:55 +0000 @19 JA -- I'm a glutton for banter about this sort of thing (I think we'd get along, heh). "Sudden death" strikes me as more of a hockey overtime thing, where a loss for either side could be instantaneously imminent (whereas in baseball, even with "walkoffs," each side takes their turn). And I agree with your counterargument to Phil regarding "deciding game." When I innocuously replied back in #6, I instinctively used "winner-take-all" -- does that do the best job of covering a game, uh, for all the marbles?

By: Russell Sat, 08 Oct 2011 05:50:31 +0000 Leon "Bull" Durham is the hitting coach for the Tigers' AAA Toledo Mud Hens - he may have given Don Kelly a tip on the way up from the minors about hitting a HR in the 1st inning of an LDS game 5 or LCS/WS game 7 to quiet the crowd. I'm glad Don didn't also follow his lead in making a crucial late-inning error!

speaking of multi-position players like Kelly, what's the most positions played in a playoff series by one player? this would be a more meaningful accomplishment than playing all 9 positions in a regular season game.

By: Frank Clingenpeel Sat, 08 Oct 2011 00:09:51 +0000 Ever noticed how many of these lists Berra makes?

By: John Autin Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:42:30 +0000 @17, Phil -- I see your point about "sudden death", but does "deciding game" necessarily mean a game that will win the series for either side?

I just wonder if some people would think the term also applies to any game that ended a series, whether or not the teams were tied going in.

By: Nick C. Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:06:00 +0000 Then there's John Mayberry Sr., who hit the early HR for the Royals in the game that ended with Chris Chambliss' HR

By: Phil Haberkorn Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:34:13 +0000 What is a "sudden death game??????"
Is it what we've always called the "deciding game" of a series?
If so, why not keep calling it that?
Sorry, but I'm still trying to digest why we stopped referring to "game-winning" plays and started calling them "walk-off" plays.
Here's my point.
Leon Durham's first - inning home run against the Padres definitely did not "take the crowd out of it."
The Padres rallied to win the game.
And it took all nine innings to do it; where's the "sudden" in that?
The Cubs NEVER die a "sudden death."
Their pennant chances have been Dead On Arrival with the first pitch Opening Day for over 100 years, it just always takes a few months for people to accept it.
At times it takes something like Leon Durham's ERROR to just bring on the inevitable.

By: John Autin Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:49:57 +0000 @14, Evan -- Fair enough. Just don't tell me that Neil L. defected to the jocks. It would be a big hit to our Nerds Above Replacement value.

By: George Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:46:17 +0000 That is quite a list, some great players.

By: Evan Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:29:42 +0000 JA @12,

I think they call us "nerds," with "nerd" being the singular form.

By: Evan Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:28:42 +0000 JT @10,

I think read/heard that one of the reasons that Dombrowski and Leyland were keen on bringing Delmon Young in was that they felt he was an excellent fastball hitter and that if they batted him 3rd he would hit better since pitchers would be less apt to throwing him breaking balls with Cabrera and Martinez hitting behind him. I don't know how much truth there is in that, but he did hit better after the trade, though still mostly below his career averages.


On a side note, one of quirks that I like of having just one game on the schedule is that the 4 highest WPA events on the front page are all from Benoit against the Yankees in the bottom of the 7th.