Comments on: A.J. Burnett Sets A Wild Pitch Record This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mike Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:15:19 +0000 J.R. Richard was such a stud. Wild pitches obviously didn't bother him because nobody else would be on base and he'd just strike the batters out. I wish we'd been able to see him finish out his career normally....

By: Frank N. Fri, 09 Sep 2011 04:53:33 +0000 I've seen 1919 mentioned twice, but only mentioned. Do you mean to say that "Burnett now has 8 games with 3+ WP and stands alone at the top of this list of players after 1919"?

By: Pepper: Marlins’ new home could bring makeover | Time News Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:09:49 +0000 [...] Real life ‘Wild Thing:’ If you like baseball and don’t love Charlie Sheen’s character — Ricky “Wild Thing” Vaughn — in “Major League,” well, you might have as many screws loose as Sheen. In the movie, Vaughn earned the nickname after loading the bases with walks on 12 straight pitches and then later set a record for wild pitches in an inning. Embattled Yankees starting pitcher A.J. Burnett didn’t do it in an inning, but he has now joined rare company with his wild pitches. With three Wednesday, he became the first pitcher since 1919 to have eight games with at least three wild pitches (Baseball-Reference blog). [...]

By: Lawrence Azrin Thu, 08 Sep 2011 14:28:56 +0000 @3/ John Autin Says: "A.J. has also made the short list of pitchers with at least 23 WP in a season..."

#11 Tim Leary shouldn't have taken so much LSD:
Tim Leary/ 23 Wild Pitches/ 1990/ age32/ NYY AL/ 31 Games/ 31 GS/ 6 CG

He's no Dock Ellis, that's for sure.

@11/ Nightdly - I'll spare you any comment on Eddie Fisher...

By: nightfly Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:53:22 +0000 If I recall correctly, Gedman's problem wasn't Walt Hriniak, it was contract disputes and injuries. Look at these raw numbers:

212 h, 43 db, 19 hr, 87 r, 94 rbi, 86 bb

This would be a fine season from Timmy P's favored son, Michael Young: based on his 162-game averages of 719 pa and 660 ab, you'd have a 321/414/473 batter. Unfortunately, the above is not Young, as you've guessed - it's Gedman's entire career, post-1986, over 377 games. Resulting slash line: 206/267/304, ops+ of 57, and including his defense, that puts him three wins *below* replacement level. He also struck out 16.3% of his plate appearances, compared with 13.9% through 1986.

He was never the same after leading the AL with 14 passed balls in 1986. =P

By: Jim Dunne Thu, 08 Sep 2011 12:10:06 +0000 @17


Mike Greenwell was a superstar under Hriniak, and did very little after Walt was fired. Rich Gedman co-authored Hriniak's book! Dwight Evans credited him with giving him a more consistent approach and other lesser hitters like Jody Reed really developed under him.

I know some hitters had problems with him (Brady Anderson specifically), but lots of hitters directly gave Walt a lot of credit for their improvement. I'd never even heard of the Greenwell one:

Greenwell career under Hriniak (through age 24): .326/.403/.547
Greenwell after Hriniak left (age 25-32): .296/.357/.438

In 1988, Greenwell's last season with Hriniak, he had his career highs in batting average, OBP, SLG, HR, 2B, RBI, BB, 3B... if he was swinging "like a girl" he should've kept it up. He ended up with a 7.2 WAR that year, at age 24, and 12.0 WAR the rest of his career.

By: Fourfriends1679 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:59:41 +0000 @15 - Walt Hriniak RUINED Gedman, and didn't do Mike Greenwell any favors either. He had the Red Sox swinging like women's tennis players. (And I don;t mean the Williams sisters!) No power, all opposite-field garbage. Boggs ate it up, but then... He was WADE BOGGS. (Kind of hard to ruin that!) I was never so happy to see a coach go. (And then he ruined Cory Snyder for good over in Chicago.) Terrible, TERRIBLE hittng coach.

By: AJ Burnett and Wild Pitches | Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:42:10 +0000 [...] finally, there’s this from, AJ is now the only pitcher since 1919 to have had at least eight games in his career with at least [...]

By: John Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:03:25 +0000 @11: Yeah, regarding Hough and his ridiculous knuckler in the mid-80's, some of us Red Sox fans remember Rich Gedman's attempt to ... ahem... "catch" Hough during the 1986 All-Star Game. It's been suggested that Gedman came down with a crisis of confidence after that sorry performance on the national stage, and never recovered.

I tend to doubt it, but he never regained a starting job again, after his 1986 All-Star season. (Bill James blamed Walt Hriniak, as I recall.)

By: TheGoof Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:45:03 +0000 This quantifies easily why Yankees and Sox fans joke about automatic losses when A.J. or Lackey pitch, particularly against the other team. Man, if they face in a playoff game it could make Ankiel's debacle look like nothing...