Comments on: Most BB Post-1900 Careers Of 1,500 AB Or Less This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steve Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:33:28 +0000 24 Well,yeah,free swingers who make contact.Greg Jefferies is a good example off the top of my head.

By: groundball Fri, 02 Sep 2011 04:39:39 +0000 #22, Personally I've only considered free-swingers to be high-K, low-BB guys. Actually, I consider low-BB, Low-K to be free-swingers rather than the reverse.

But, probably just me.

By: Steve Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:51:18 +0000 22 Yeah,guys who strikeout AND walk alot often take a lot of pitches too.Hence more called third strikes.

By: Doug Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:52:33 +0000 Dave Nicholson, the original free-swinging strikeout king, was also a walk king! You might think that would take some doing, but actually it seems not to be the case.

Since 1919, there are only 10 guys in 1500+ PA careers to strikeout in at least one-third of their ABs. Here they are:
- Adam Dunn
- Rob Deer
- Jack Cust
- Russell Branyan
- Mark Bellhorn
- Mark Reynolds
- Dave Nicholson
- Bo Jackson
- Tom Seaver
- Lefty Grove

Of the above 10, all but the the last three on the list (two of them pitchers) had walk totals of at least one-third of their strikeouts. Dunn and Cust have walks totalling more than 50% of their strikeouts.

Could it be that the so-called free swingers aren't really free swingers? Rather, they wait for their pitch but just don't connect too much because they're always swinging so hard?

By: Patrick Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:44:12 +0000 I'm guessing some of these guys batted 8th a lot and were walked to get to the pitcher. I'm looking at you, Hodges, Sawatski, and Pocoroba, LLP.

By: Lawrence Azrin Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:13:39 +0000 @10/ Cheese says: "Urban Shocker aint bad either."

Cheese, that was his actual name {Urban James Shocker}. He died very young at 37 of a heart condition, otherwise he might've been a serious HOF candidate.

By: groundball Thu, 01 Sep 2011 08:51:37 +0000 I liked Cangelosi too.

I do remember him charging the mound on John Smoltz one time after getting plunked afterwards it was mentioned at the time after getting that plunk that he was 0 for 1 with 3 HBPs in his career against Smoltz. No wonder he charged the mound.

Anyhow for names one of my favorite was Bris Lord's nickname "The Human Eyeball", though I've never been able to find out why he got that nickname. He doesnt seem to have wierd eyes in his pictures (at least to me). And he didnt exactly draw BBs (by the way that nickname would be perfect for some of the names on this list) Anybody know?

By: brett kiser Thu, 01 Sep 2011 03:55:43 +0000 Glenn Gulliver was one walk-drawing dude but he only played one year with Baltimore if my memory serves me correctly, maybe two. Tommy Glaviano was another guy with a short career who drew a ton of walks but he was only a regular in one season I believe. I like playing with those guys in Stratomatic leagues. Then there's Eddie Shokes, who missed action to WWII--he was a walk-drawer but his career BA was a hair above .100 in his short ML stint.

Bless the guy who remembers Cango! Little Cangelosi was one of my favorites!

By: steven Thu, 01 Sep 2011 02:52:31 +0000 Grabarkewitz, Jacklitsch and Menechino, right in the middle of the order. Perfect fodder for Harry Caray.

By: Kingturtle Thu, 01 Sep 2011 01:51:55 +0000 champ summers only had 1371 at bats? wow.