Comments on: Jose, can you get any hotter? This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dukeofflatbush Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:18:03 +0000 Jimmy Rollins the other 30/15 guy?

By: John Autin Fri, 01 Jul 2011 03:50:54 +0000 1978 was an outstanding year:

-- My Tigers got over .500 for the first time in 5 years, starting a run off 11 years in contention (or at least close enough for me to fake it).

-- Ron LeFlore became the first Tiger to lead the league in SB in almost 50 years (and led the league in runs, too).

-- Ron Guidry, a Cajun from "Lewz-yanna" bayou country (just like my daddy), was the hottest thing since cayenne pepper.

-- Jim Rice had the first year of 400 Total Bases in almost 2 decades, and his 2nd year of 30+ HRs / 15+ triples; he's the only one to do that twice, and it's only been done once since.

-- Pete Rose went over 3,000 hits, then had a 44-game hitting streak.

-- Phil Niekro had perhaps the greatest unnoticed season ever -- MLB-best 9.1 pitching WAR, 334 IP, 2.88 ERA in a tough park, 19 wins for a last-place team.

-- J.R. Richard had 303 strikeouts.

It was a good year to be introduced to Strat-O-Matic.

By: Neil L. Fri, 01 Jul 2011 03:00:03 +0000 @89
Duke, don't they have to be Rolling Rocks?

By: John Autin Fri, 01 Jul 2011 02:16:04 +0000 @86, Duke -- To my surprise, Reyes does not lead the majors in 3-hit games -- Adrian Gonzalez has the edge, 14-13.

I knew A-Gon was hitting .350+, but I just didn't think he'd have enough ABs to rack up that many hits. Turns out, his walk rate is way down from the last 2 years; he's on pace for about 59 walks this year. Part of it is a decline in IBBs, of course; he had 35 of those last year, 8 so far this year.

But compare his 2011 season to 2009, when he had 22 IBBs (only 5 above this year's pace):
-- 2011: .356 BA, .410 OBP
-- 2009: .277 BA, .407 OBP

I guess it's just an indication of how much more carefully pitchers handled him when he was just about the only threat in the SD lineup.

By: Dukeofflatbush Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:25:23 +0000 cheers chuck!
i owe you a beer, or 2

By: Mustachioed Repetition Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:12:29 +0000 Looks like Chuck Klein had 83 multi-hit games, in '30, Bill Terry 80 in '30, Joe Medwick 80 in '37, Suzuki 80 in '04.

By: Chuck Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:50:24 +0000 It's all good, Duke.

No harm, no foul, I appreciated the humor and no offense was taken.

It did start to get old, so good thing John jumped in to turn the faucet off when he did.

The offer or point I made to John was to prove a point, and was made to him only. If you or anyone didn't like the tone, tough, if John felt disrespected by it he has my personal email and I would have gone out of my way to make it right by him.

It was late when I posted the comment and I regretted it pretty much right away, but what's done is done.

And it still doesn't change the point I was attempting to make, either.

I understand I'm in the minority here and sometimes lose track of that fact.

And, really, Duke, 1978 was a good year...

Bucky Bleepin' Dent!!!!!!!!

By: Dukeofflatbush Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:32:15 +0000 JA
A bit over looked, but Jose Reyes has 41 multi-hit games. Tonight will be his teams' 81st game, putting him on pace for 80+ multi-hit games.
I think, using play index (so only 1919 and above), but only Buckfoot Al Simmons has at least 80 (85) in a season. Maybe another record?

By: Dukeofflatbush Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:13:05 +0000 @ Chuck,
Funny, Henderson ended it all in Newark, with the Bears. Full circle.

By: Dukeofflatbush Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:08:31 +0000 Chuck & JA,
i was just messing fellows, I assure you it was meant in good humor, I'm sorry if anything was misinterpreted, and I apologize. I guess i did get carried away, but in a non-fighting way.
I will stop if anyone thinks i was out of hand. Or, you know - i'll just keep it baseball from now on and that's all. I meant no harm. Truly.
Chuck you just seem the type to have thick skin, the kind of guy who can dish it out as well as he takes it (which is my kind of guy), and that is what you pretty much said - in so many words (that you can take a jab). I thought my jabs at you were over the top and satirical enough to not be taken literally or seriously, and I obviously don't know you, so I was only using info that you unnecessarily gave to me and used to put down the rest of us. THAT offended a lot of us. I admittedly am slightly jealous that you have access to players and clubhouses, I just didn't needed it lorded over me to illustrate how much more capable you are than me. And I'm not sure you really are. you remind me of a guy who didn't like the Beatles cause Elvis was 'really' ROCK N ROLL!
Honestly, there was nothing personal Chuck (and if you find something personal in my comments on Henderson's elbow smell, well then I take back my THICK SKIN comment), but I did think your post that read something like, 'none of us had any business talking baseball because we had no experience and our stats were nonsense and your hands on experience put you in a far better position to value players', was one, very presumptuous and condescending and arrogant. How do you know what any of us do? I wouldn't guess anyone's pedigree on anything with that type of certainty, then chastise them without evidence, that's just arrogant, then to prop myself up and use phrases like "load of crap" - when referring to some one else's opinion, is not constructive to a discussion. Yes, baseball did change a bit since 1978, sorry we weren't there to see it, so forgive us, I was 3 years old in 1978. And if you think Saber stats are silly, you are in the wrong place friendo.
Second, my silliness towards you pales in comparison to some of the meaner things you have said on this thread and others to some pretty nice guys.
I'm not sure what you have to prove to John Autin, or why you feel the need to discredit what he is saying, or do so with such rancor, it is beyond me. In case you haven't noticed, he's a pretty smart guy that many of us enjoy quite a bit.
True, I was not in many clubhouses getting paid - ever. Though I did keep score once. But I am not sure if you were either. But I wouldn't use something I was proud of as a way to propel my status above the 'rest' of us.
Its cool to have a guy like yourself, who had a unique view of baseball (from the other side, our side being fandom) - but why hang it over our heads. Why not justify your stance and use your experience as a positive.
We all came to baseball by different means and we all obviously love it.
I don't doubt your love of the sport, I just don't like your tone. Will it kill me? no. But I don't like it.
True I can tune you out, but I felt there was nothing wrong and/or personal about my posts about you. just looking for a laugh that I thought you wouldn't mind. I'll stop.

JA - sorry if you felt I was out of hand, but everything was meant comedically and I may have been swept up in Timmy P's infectious tomfoolery.
I'll keep the talk to baseball, and will hunt down "fast" players'' error causing hijynx, and have a full report for you after the holiday.
Didn't mean to disrespect anyone or this site. Sorry.