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	<title>Comments on: Justin Verlander&#8217;s Trippy Balk</title>
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		<title>By: John Autin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 01:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@26, DoubleDiamond -- A couple of questions about how you&#039;d like to change the balk rule:
-- Wouldn&#039;t that put a lot of pressure on the umpires to discern exactly what physical forces &quot;caused&quot; a pitcher to balk?  Is whatever we might gain by overlooking a few &quot;accidental&quot; balks worth the potential arguments about whether a gust of wind caused Andy Pettitte&#039;s leg to cross the perpendicular line that requires him to throw home instead of to first base?  
-- Why should a pitcher who trips, stumbles, gets blown over or attacked by midges get a mulligan, while a batter, runner or fielder has no such recourse?

Just curious what you think about those angles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@26, DoubleDiamond -- A couple of questions about how you'd like to change the balk rule:<br />
-- Wouldn't that put a lot of pressure on the umpires to discern exactly what physical forces "caused" a pitcher to balk?  Is whatever we might gain by overlooking a few "accidental" balks worth the potential arguments about whether a gust of wind caused Andy Pettitte's leg to cross the perpendicular line that requires him to throw home instead of to first base?<br />
-- Why should a pitcher who trips, stumbles, gets blown over or attacked by midges get a mulligan, while a batter, runner or fielder has no such recourse?</p>
<p>Just curious what you think about those angles.</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleDiamond</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 01:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the Shaw game and 1963 - I remember a year from my childhood in which there was a new balk rule that greatly increased the number of balks that were called. If I recall correctly, this rule was rescinded pretty quickly, possibly even during that same season.

As soon as I saw the post about the 5-game balk by one pitcher, I just knew it had to come from that season.

Regarding the Verlander balk of the other day - I&#039;ve expressed here before that I don&#039;t think a balk should be called if the pitcher falls down, trips, gets blown over by the wind (Stu Miller in an All Star game in Candlestick Park during my childhood), etc. It should just be a &quot;no pitch&quot;. I remember watching a Braves game on TBS, probably in the early or mid-1990s, and seeing a pitcher accidentally lose the ball just before he threw it. It was called a balk, and I was outraged! (What would the call have been if the bases had been empty.) I remember that it was the Braves&#039; opponents&#039; pitcher, and I thought I had remembered that it was Mark Portugal, probably with the Astros at the time. But when I looked up Portugal&#039;s games against the Braves hoping to verify this, I didn&#039;t find such a play against the Braves. That was a while back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Shaw game and 1963 - I remember a year from my childhood in which there was a new balk rule that greatly increased the number of balks that were called. If I recall correctly, this rule was rescinded pretty quickly, possibly even during that same season.</p>
<p>As soon as I saw the post about the 5-game balk by one pitcher, I just knew it had to come from that season.</p>
<p>Regarding the Verlander balk of the other day - I've expressed here before that I don't think a balk should be called if the pitcher falls down, trips, gets blown over by the wind (Stu Miller in an All Star game in Candlestick Park during my childhood), etc. It should just be a "no pitch". I remember watching a Braves game on TBS, probably in the early or mid-1990s, and seeing a pitcher accidentally lose the ball just before he threw it. It was called a balk, and I was outraged! (What would the call have been if the bases had been empty.) I remember that it was the Braves' opponents' pitcher, and I thought I had remembered that it was Mark Portugal, probably with the Astros at the time. But when I looked up Portugal's games against the Braves hoping to verify this, I didn't find such a play against the Braves. That was a while back.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[uncalled balk that is]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uncalled balk that is</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pettitte had a ridiculous balk in the 2009 World Series that I&#039;m still rather annoyed about]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pettitte had a ridiculous balk in the 2009 World Series that I'm still rather annoyed about</p>
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		<title>By: StephenH</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding Carlton and his jump in Balk totals. I had heard that he had copied Jerry Koosman&#039;s pickoff move, which was similar. It seems possible as Kooz is also on this list.  As for Pettite, for whatever reason, the umps just never rarely called balks on him. But it was a balk move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Carlton and his jump in Balk totals. I had heard that he had copied Jerry Koosman's pickoff move, which was similar. It seems possible as Kooz is also on this list.  As for Pettite, for whatever reason, the umps just never rarely called balks on him. But it was a balk move.</p>
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		<title>By: wboenig</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another game where the only run was scored on a balk:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS199806060.shtml

And no, I didn&#039;t do some elaborate search; I found out about it the old-fashioned way -- I attended the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's another game where the only run was scored on a balk:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS199806060.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS199806060.shtml</a></p>
<p>And no, I didn't do some elaborate search; I found out about it the old-fashioned way -- I attended the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil L.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Autin, how DO you find these tidbits?

The balk is a subjective call, so subject to umpire&#039;s judgement that small differences in balk totals are probably mostly meaningless.

@19
David, your post is really relevant, I think. Pickoffs are the reward for skirting the rulebook with respect to move to the plate. There is a risk/reward ratio for balks that is difficult to evaluate without pickoff data. 

But then pickoffs can&#039;t be separated from CS where the runner was hung out to dry so badly that he went for second.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Autin, how DO you find these tidbits?</p>
<p>The balk is a subjective call, so subject to umpire's judgement that small differences in balk totals are probably mostly meaningless.</p>
<p>@19<br />
David, your post is really relevant, I think. Pickoffs are the reward for skirting the rulebook with respect to move to the plate. There is a risk/reward ratio for balks that is difficult to evaluate without pickoff data. </p>
<p>But then pickoffs can't be separated from CS where the runner was hung out to dry so badly that he went for second.</p>
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		<title>By: John Autin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found a note about &lt;strong&gt;Shaw&#039;s 5-balk game&lt;/strong&gt; on a Brewers fan site:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Shaw briefly earned the nickname &quot;Balk Shaw&quot; in 1963.  That year the umpires had a directive to enforce the balk rule of coming to a full one second stop in the stretch.  Since this rule had not been enforced to the letter previously, a few guys had trouble adjusting most notably Shaw.  It became farcical on May 4, 1963 in a game against the Cubs, when umpire Al Barlick called 5 balks on Shaw in one game bringing his total for the season to date to 8.  ...  The uproar that ensued resulted in a directive to the umps to return to their previous rule interpretation and Shaw did not record another balk the rest of the year.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
http://brewersfandemonium.yuku.com/topic/23497

I hadn&#039;t known that there had been a balk-enforcement directive in 1963 like the one in 1988.  But the evidence is there in the NL balk totals by year:
1962, 48
&lt;strong&gt;1963, 147&lt;/strong&gt;
1964, 36

The AL balk totals suggest that the directive went to NL umps only -- which would not be surprising, since each league handled its own umpires independently.  The AL balk totals for those 3 years were 44, 47 and 29.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a note about <strong>Shaw's 5-balk game</strong> on a Brewers fan site:</p>
<p><em>"Shaw briefly earned the nickname "Balk Shaw" in 1963.  That year the umpires had a directive to enforce the balk rule of coming to a full one second stop in the stretch.  Since this rule had not been enforced to the letter previously, a few guys had trouble adjusting most notably Shaw.  It became farcical on May 4, 1963 in a game against the Cubs, when umpire Al Barlick called 5 balks on Shaw in one game bringing his total for the season to date to 8.  ...  The uproar that ensued resulted in a directive to the umps to return to their previous rule interpretation and Shaw did not record another balk the rest of the year."</em><br />
<a href="http://brewersfandemonium.yuku.com/topic/23497" rel="nofollow">http://brewersfandemonium.yuku.com/topic/23497</a></p>
<p>I hadn't known that there had been a balk-enforcement directive in 1963 like the one in 1988.  But the evidence is there in the NL balk totals by year:<br />
1962, 48<br />
<strong>1963, 147</strong><br />
1964, 36</p>
<p>The AL balk totals suggest that the directive went to NL umps only -- which would not be surprising, since each league handled its own umpires independently.  The AL balk totals for those 3 years were 44, 47 and 29.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidRF</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are there pickoff leaderboards?  You can see Carlton&#039;s 144 pickoff in his fielding table but I can&#039;t find seasonal and career leaderboards to see how impressive that is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there pickoff leaderboards?  You can see Carlton's 144 pickoff in his fielding table but I can't find seasonal and career leaderboards to see how impressive that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartan Bill</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 18:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sorry about not linking it.

thanks for covering for me Raphy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about not linking it.</p>
<p>thanks for covering for me Raphy</p>
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