Comments on: Sam Fuld & missing the cycle by a single

By: Doug

Doug — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:25:10 +0000

Since 1919, there are 23 games (but only 22 players) where a player has hit for the cycle and had 4 XBH. Which player has done it twice? Hint: he did it once before WWII and once after.

BTW, the record for XBH in a game is 5, done 6 times (most recently by Kelly Stoppach, of all people). However, none of those 30 XBH was a triple, so no cycles there.

By: John Autin

John Autin — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:48:13 +0000

@29, BSK -- What could you find in a play-by-play that would be evidence of Henderson failing to take an extra base on a hit?

By: John Autin

John Autin — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:38:40 +0000

Oops, I didn't realize Artie had already documented the Strawberry game.

BTW, Straw never did get that cycle.

By: John Autin

John Autin — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:36:02 +0000

@18, Artie Z -- Right you are about Strawberry in '87:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN198708160.shtml

By: Liam

Liam — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 01:06:46 +0000

If he has gotten thrown out at second it would have been the cycle

By: Andy

Andy — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:32:24 +0000

BSK, I'm not sure I understand your question but it doesn't sound like anything we can easily search for. I would suggest you go into Henderson's personal event finder to see what you can find.

By: BSK

BSK — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:13:47 +0000

(I'm still learning the PI, so please don't attack me for this query!) Couldn't we do some sort of search where we look at the type of hit before each of Rickey's SBs? I thought a while ago there was a post where they were able to detail the type of hit on the given play (e.g., deep flyball to LF). Couldn't we attempt to discern the times that Rickey might have dogged it and then see if he stole more frequently after those instances than normal?

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:47:51 +0000

welcome back, Statboy!

By: statboy

statboy — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:45:43 +0000

@17, It's not ridiculous at all to think that Rickey stopped at 2nd so that he could steal 3rd (or stop at 1st so that he could steal 2nd). And, he certainly wasn't slow out of the box because of his swing, he was slow out of the box because he was busy hotdogging! I can't even imagine what his stats would look like if he was a hustler.

By: Doug

Doug — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:12:18 +0000

@ oneblankspace

The Astro you're referring to is Kevin Bass. The games was from 1987, a 6-5 Astros win at Candlestick. Bass indeed doubled in his last AB, in the 7th.

Bass had 4 RBI to go with his 4 hits, but he didn't get much help from his friends. Despite those 4 XBH, his only run scored was on his home run.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN198706270.shtml