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June 28, 2007

I guess it’s not so rare

Filed under: UncategorizedAndy @ 7:02 am

Now that I am paying attention to zero-strikeout starts by pitchers, I have learned that it’s not as rare as I thought.

Roger Clemens pulled it off last night, and Peter Abraham writes in the LoHud Yankees blog with some interesting notes about Clemens’ history of no-K starts. (Incidentally, if you are interested in Yankees news, whether an actual Yankees fan or not, Abraham’s blog is simply the best there is. He’s got great information but is an unbiased a beat reported as I have ever seen.)

This is a bit off-topic, but I wanted to point out some of the hard-luck pitchers so far this year. These are using B-R.com’s PI Pitching Game Finder.

First, most times so far in 2007 that a starter has gotten the loss in a game where he pitched at least 7 innings and allowed 2 or fewer earned runs:

                 Year Games Link to Individual Games

+-----------------+----+-----+-------------------------+

 Noah Lowry        2007     3 Ind. Games
 Matt Cain         2007     3 Ind. Games
 Carlos Silva      2007     2 Ind. Games
 Johan Santana     2007     2 Ind. Games
 Andy Pettitte     2007     2 Ind. Games
 Matt Morris       2007     2 Ind. Games
 Derek Lowe        2007     2 Ind. Games
 Doug Davis        2007     2 Ind. Games
 Mark Buehrle      2007     2 Ind. Games
 Joe Blanton       2007     2 Ind. Games

Jayson Stark wrote recently about just how good Matt Cain has been this year. He probably deserves at least 3 more wins.

And now, the same criteria, but where the starter got a no-decision:

 Jeremy Guthrie    2007     5 Ind. Games
 Ian Snell         2007     3 Ind. Games
 James Shields     2007     3 Ind. Games
 Jake Peavy        2007     3 Ind. Games
 Roy Oswalt        2007     3 Ind. Games
 Joe Kennedy       2007     3 Ind. Games
 Tim Hudson        2007     3 Ind. Games
 Danny Haren       2007     3 Ind. Games
 Aaron Harang      2007     3 Ind. Games
 Jon Garland       2007     3 Ind. Games
 Zach Duke         2007     3 Ind. Games
 Erik Bedard       2007     3 Ind. Games
 Bronson Arroyo    2007     3 Ind. Games

How about Jeremy Guthrie? He’s flown under the radar because he has only 4 wins, but he deserves at least 3-4 more. He’s got a WHIP of 0.92 so far this year, and he’s making “only” $380,000. As Abraham pointed out in the link above, Clemens makes more than twice that per start.

6 Comments »

  1. What details can you give about the 12 starting pitchers that have pitched into extra innings and had no strikeouts…

    Comment by dave — June 28, 2007 @ 1:11 pm

  2. Interesting. I’ve got 14 who did it. Sometimes these comments get blocked as spam, so I’ll try post the full list in another post.

    Comment by Andy — June 28, 2007 @ 1:24 pm

  3. Player Date Tm Opp GmReslt IP H R ER BB K
    +—-+—————–+————-+—+—-+——-+———+—-
    Bill Wegman 1992-04-28 MIL KCR L 2-3 GS-10 10 5 2 2 2 0
    Oil Can Boyd 1983-09-13 BOS BAL L 4-7 GS-11 11 10 4 3 3 0
    Jim Kaat 1980-07-01 STL PIT L 2-3 CG 10,L 9.2 9 3 3 0 0
    Tommy John 1980-06-25 NYY BOS L 3-4 CG 10,L 10 9 4 3 2 0
    Jer Augustine 1976-08-24 MIL TEX W 1-0 SHO10,W 10 5 0 0 1 0
    Randy Jones 1976-05-30 SDP SFG W 4-3 CG 10,W 10 7 3 1 0 0
    Jim Perry 1974-05-22 CLE BAL L 0-1 GS-10 10 7 0 0 1 0
    Jim Slaton 1973-04-15 MIL BAL W 3-2 GS-10 10 11 2 2 3 0
    Robin Roberts 1963-08-14 BAL MIN L 1-2 GS-10 10 5 1 1 4 0
    Jerry Walker 1962-05-01 KCA DET L 2-3 CG 10,L 10 10 3 3 5 0
    Bob Purkey 1961-05-22 CIN LAD L 1-2 GS-10,L 9.2 10 2 2 3 0
    Don Newcombe 1959-09-19 CIN PIT L 3-4 GS-12 11.1 7 3 2 0 0
    B Trowbridge 1957-06-09 MLN PIT W 2-1 GS-10,W 10 6 1 1 4 0
    Curt Simmons 1957-05-30 PHI NYG W 2-1 CG 10,W 10 6 1 1 0 0

    Comment by Andy — June 28, 2007 @ 1:32 pm

  4. and that’s just since 1957…

    Comment by Andy — June 28, 2007 @ 1:32 pm

  5. The two extra games you listed were the 1980 Katt game and the 1961 Purkey game.
    My list was made of just 10+ innings and not “9.2”

    Comment by dave — June 28, 2007 @ 4:44 pm

  6. Bug report. Matt Cain has 3 ind. games. But if you click on the link you actually get four games showing in the report.

    Comment by bengtsson — June 28, 2007 @ 5:42 pm

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