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Pie Traynor

Harold Joseph Traynor

Position: Third Baseman
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 0", Weight: 170 lb.

Born: November 11, 1898 in Framingham, MA
High School: Somerville HS (Somerville, MA) (All Transactions)
Debut: September 15, 1920 (Age 21.309)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1922 season [*]
Team: Pirates 1920-1937

Final Game: August 14, 1937 (Age 38.276)
Inducted into the Hall of Fame by BBWAA as Player in 1948 (93/121 ballots).
   View Pie Traynor Page at the Baseball Hall of Fame (plaque, photos, videos).

Died: March 16, 1972 in Pittsburgh, PA
Buried: Homewood Cemetery, Pittsburgh, PA
View Player Bio from the SABR BioProject
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Fine Details  · Last updated Oct 31, 2014 7:17AM
All-Time Rank (among batters): #209. Juan Gonzalez… #210. Ron Cey… #211. Rafael Palmeiro… #212. PIE TRAYNOR… #213. King Kelly… #214. Jim Fregosi… #215. Buddy Myer… 

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1920 21 PIT NL 17 57 52 6 11 3 1 0 2 1 3 3 6 .212 .268 .308 .576 63 16 1 0 6
1921 22 PIT NL 7 20 19 0 5 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 2 .263 .300 .263 .563 49 5 0 0 /56
1922 23 PIT NL 142 616 571 89 161 17 12 4 81 17 3 27 28 .282 .319 .375 .694 78 214 4 13 *56
1923 24 PIT NL 153 661 616 108 208 19 19 12 101 28 13 34 19 .338 .377 .489 .866 125 301 5 6 *5/6
1924 25 PIT NL 142 596 545 86 160 26 13 5 82 24 18 37 26 .294 .340 .417 .756 100 227 1 13 *5
1925 26 PIT NL 150 658 591 114 189 39 14 6 106 15 9 52 19 .320 .377 .464 .840 108 274 2 13 *5/6 MVP-8
1926 27 PIT NL 152 639 574 83 182 25 17 3 92 8 38 14 .317 .361 .436 .796 110 250 1 26 *5/6 MVP-13
1927 28 PIT NL 149 633 573 93 196 32 9 5 106 11 22 11 .342 .370 .455 .825 113 261 3 35 *5/6 MVP-7
1928 29 PIT NL 144 640 569 91 192 38 12 3 124 12 28 10 .337 .370 .462 .832 113 263 1 42 *5 MVP-6
1929 30 PIT NL 130 596 540 94 192 27 12 4 108 13 30 7 .356 .393 .472 .865 111 255 3 24 *5 MVP-7
1930 31 PIT NL 130 572 497 90 182 22 11 9 119 7 48 19 .366 .423 .509 .932 124 253 1 23 *5
1931 32 PIT NL 155 677 615 81 183 37 15 2 103 6 54 28 .298 .354 .416 .771 108 256 0 8 *5 MVP-13
1932 33 PIT NL 135 556 513 74 169 27 10 2 68 6 32 20 .329 .373 .433 .806 119 222 4 7 *5 MVP-8
1933 ★ 34 PIT NL 154 676 624 85 190 27 6 1 82 5 35 24 .304 .342 .372 .714 104 232 14 1 16 *5 AS,MVP-8
1934 ★ 35 PIT NL 119 468 444 62 137 22 10 1 61 3 21 27 .309 .341 .410 .751 98 182 23 1 2 *5 AS
1935 36 PIT NL 57 220 204 24 57 10 3 1 36 2 10 17 .279 .323 .373 .695 84 76 9 3 3 5/3
1937 38 PIT NL 5 12 12 3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .167 .167 .167 .333 -9 2 1 0 0 /5
17 Yrs 1941 8297 7559 1183 2416 371 164 58 1273 158 46 472 278 .320 .362 .435 .797 107 3289 47 31 231
162 Game Avg. 162 692 631 99 202 31 14 5 106 13 39 23 .320 .362 .435 .797 107 275 3 19
G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1920 21 PIT NL 17 57 -2 -1 0 -4 1 -6 -0.7 2 -4 -0.5 .458 .496 -0.1 -0.3 -1 6
1921 22 PIT NL 7 20 -1 0 0 0 0 -1 -0.1 1 -0 -0.1 .484 .499 -0.1 0.0 -0 /56
1922 23 PIT NL 142 616 -19 4 0 -14 5 -24 -2.3 19 -5 -0.4 .484 .486 0.9 -0.8 9 *56
1923 24 PIT NL 153 661 22 2 0 -3 5 26 2.5 20 46 4.5 .516 .515 4.8 0.2 49 *5/6
1924 25 PIT NL 142 596 -0 -1 0 4 5 8 0.7 18 26 2.6 .505 .505 2.2 0.8 22 *5
1925 26 PIT NL 150 658 9 0 0 4 5 18 1.6 20 38 3.6 .511 .511 3.3 0.8 34 *5/6 MVP-8
1926 27 PIT NL 152 639 8 -1 0 -2 5 11 1.0 20 31 3.0 .507 .507 3.2 0.3 33 *5/6 MVP-13
1927 28 PIT NL 149 633 11 -1 0 4 5 20 1.9 20 39 3.9 .513 .512 3.6 0.9 35 *5/6 MVP-7
1928 29 PIT NL 144 640 11 -1 0 1 4 16 1.5 19 35 3.4 .511 .510 3.5 0.5 34 *5 MVP-6
1929 30 PIT NL 130 596 11 -1 0 -2 3 12 1.1 18 30 2.8 .508 .507 3.0 0.1 32 *5 MVP-7
1930 31 PIT NL 130 572 25 -1 0 1 3 28 2.4 18 46 4.2 .519 .515 4.1 0.4 45 *5
1931 32 PIT NL 155 677 8 -0 0 -6 4 5 0.4 21 26 2.6 .503 .503 3.3 -0.3 32 $14,000 *5 MVP-13
1932 33 PIT NL 135 556 15 -1 0 -5 3 12 1.1 17 29 3.0 .509 .507 3.5 -0.3 34 $13,000 *5 MVP-8
1933 ★ 34 PIT NL 154 676 4 -0 0 1 3 7 0.7 20 27 2.9 .505 .505 2.8 0.4 26 $13,000 *5 AS,MVP-8
1934 ★ 35 PIT NL 119 468 -1 -0 0 -8 2 -7 -0.8 14 7 0.7 .494 .495 1.5 -0.6 15 *5 AS
1935 36 PIT NL 57 220 -4 -0 0 -3 1 -7 -0.7 7 0 0.0 .488 .496 0.3 -0.2 3 $16,500 5/3
1937 38 PIT NL 5 12 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 -0.2 0 -1 -0.1 .466 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1 /5
17 Seasons 1941 8297 93 -1 0 -32 55 115 10.2 253 368 36.2 .506 .506 39.9 2.0 400 $56,500
Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards

Postseason Batting

Year Age Tm Lg Series Opp Rslt G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1925 ❍ 26 PIT NL WS WSH W 7 30 26 2 9 0 2 1 4 1 0 3 1 .346 .414 .615 1.029 16 0 0 0
1927 28 PIT NL WS NYY L 4 15 15 1 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .200 .200 .267 .467 4 0 0 0
2 Yrs (2 Series) 11 45 41 3 12 1 2 1 4 1 0 3 2 .293 .341 .488 .829 20 0 0 0
2 WS 11 45 41 3 12 1 2 1 4 1 0 3 2 .293 .341 .488 .829 20 0 0 0

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG Awards
1920 PIT NL 21 SS 17 15 14 86 35 39 12 4 .860 4.35 .941 5.73
1921 PIT NL 22 3B 3 3 3 12 3 8 1 0 .917 3.67 .941 3.07
1921 PIT NL 22 SS 1 0 0 2 1 1 0 0 1.000 2.00 .950 5.90
1922 PIT NL 23 3B 124 124 121 384 147 216 21 21 .945 2.93 .948 3.05
1922 PIT NL 23 SS 18 17 17 111 39 62 10 7 .910 5.61 .945 5.78
1923 PIT NL 24 3B 152 152 151 521 189 306 26 30 .950 3.26 .947 3.09
1923 PIT NL 24 SS 1 1 1 6 2 4 0 0 1.000 6.00 .938 5.80
1924 PIT NL 25 3B 141 140 140 462 179 268 15 31 .968 3.17 .956 2.93
1925 PIT NL 26 3B 150 150 149 553 226 303 24 41 .957 3.53 .939 2.98 MVP-8
1925 PIT NL 26 SS 1 0 0 4 2 2 0 1 1.000 4.00 .942 5.70 MVP-8
1926 PIT NL 27 3B 148 148 147 484 182 279 23 32 .952 3.11 .953 2.99 MVP-13
1926 PIT NL 27 SS 3 3 3 25 9 15 1 1 .960 8.00 .948 5.83 MVP-13
1927 PIT NL 28 3B 143 142 135 496 212 265 19 23 .962 3.34 .945 2.96 MVP-7
1927 PIT NL 28 SS 9 5 5 42 13 28 1 2 .976 4.56 .944 5.50 MVP-7
1928 PIT NL 29 3B 144 144 143 498 175 296 27 15 .946 3.27 .943 3.06 MVP-6
1929 PIT NL 30 3B 130 130 127 406 148 238 20 23 .951 2.97 .953 2.88 MVP-7
1930 PIT NL 31 3B 130 130 130 423 130 268 25 18 .941 3.06 .950 2.85
1931 PIT NL 32 3B 155 155 153 493 172 284 37 21 .925 2.94 .944 2.85 MVP-13
1932 PIT NL 33 3B 127 127 125 422 173 222 27 14 .936 3.11 .945 2.88 MVP-8
1933 PIT NL 34 3B 154 154 151 503 176 300 27 16 .946 3.09 .949 3.00 AS,MVP-8
1934 PIT NL 35 3B 110 109 103 306 116 176 14 16 .954 2.65 .945 2.96 AS
1935 PIT NL 36 3B 49 49 45 161 59 84 18 2 .888 2.92 .941 2.86
1935 PIT NL 36 1B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 9.90
1937 PIT NL 38 3B 3 3 3 10 2 8 0 0 1.000 3.33 .954 2.87
16 Seasons 3B 1863 1860 1826 6134 2289 3521 324 303 .947 3.12 .947 2.96
7 Seasons SS 50 41 40 276 101 151 24 15 .913 5.04 .944 5.72
1 Season 1B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 9.90
17 Seasons TOT 1914 1901 1866 6410 2390 3672 348 318 .946 3.17 .947 3.03
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG Awards
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Hall of Fame
1936 BBWAA ( 7.1%)
1938 BBWAA ( 1.1%)
1939 BBWAA ( 3.6%)
1942 BBWAA (19.3%)
1945 BBWAA (32.8%)
1946 Final Ballot (20.2%)
1946 Nominating Vote (32.2%)
1947 BBWAA (73.9%)
1948 BBWAA (76.9%)
Selected to HOF in 1948 by BBWAA

MVP (yr lg (rk, shr))
1925 NL (8, 34%)
1926 NL (13, 18%)
1927 NL (7, 23%)
1928 NL (6, 35%)
1929 NL (7, 34%)
1931 NL (13, 15%)
1932 NL (8, 21%)
1933 NL (8, 25%)
2.05 Career Shares (86th)

WAR Position Playerss c a p y
1923 NL  4.5 (7th)

Offensive WARs c a p y
1923 NL  4.8 (5th)

Batting Average s c a p y
1923 NL  .338 (7th)
1927 NL  .342 (5th)
1928 NL  .337 (6th)
1929 NL  .356 (7th)
1930 NL  .366 (9th)
1932 NL  .329 (9th)
Career  .320 (51st)

Slugging % s c a p y
1923 NL  .489 (9th)

Games Played s c a p y
1923 NL  153 (4th)
1925 NL  150 (7th)
1926 NL  152 (10th)
1931 NL  155 (3rd)
1933 NL  154 (1st)

At Bats s c a p y
1923 NL  616 (4th)
1925 NL  591 (8th)
1926 NL  574 (7th)
1927 NL  573 (9th)
1931 NL  615 (4th)
1933 NL  624 (2nd)
Career  7,559 (202nd)

Plate Appearances s c a p y
1925 NL  658 (8th)
1926 NL  639 (10th)
1931 NL  677 (5th)
1933 NL  676 (5th)
Career  8,297 (221st)

Runs Scored s c a p y
1923 NL  108 (6th)
1925 NL  114 (4th)
1933 NL  85 (7th)
Career  1,183 (193rd)

Hits s c a p y
1923 NL  208 (3rd)
1925 NL  189 (8th)
1926 NL  182 (5th)
1927 NL  196 (6th)
1928 NL  192 (5th)
1931 NL  183 (8th)
1933 NL  190 (4th)
Career  2,416 (116th)

Total Bases s c a p y
1923 NL  301 (4th)
1925 NL  274 (10th)
1926 NL  250 (10th)
1927 NL  261 (8th)
1931 NL  256 (10th)
Career  3,289 (209th)

Doubles s c a p y
1925 NL  39 (6th)
1927 NL  32 (7th)
1928 NL  38 (6th)
1931 NL  37 (8th)
Career  371 (230th)

Triples s c a p y
1922 NL  12 (9th)
1923 NL  19 (1st)
1924 NL  13 (8th)
1925 NL  14 (5th)
1926 NL  17 (3rd)
1928 NL  12 (6th)
1929 NL  12 (8th)
1931 NL  15 (3rd)
1932 NL  10 (7th)
1934 NL  10 (8th)
Career  164 (30th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1923 NL  12 (8th)

Runs Batted In s c a p y
1923 NL  101 (6th)
1924 NL  82 (10th)
1925 NL  106 (7th)
1926 NL  92 (7th)
1927 NL  106 (6th)
1928 NL  124 (2nd)
1930 NL  119 (8th)
1931 NL  103 (4th)
1933 NL  82 (9th)
Career  1,273 (126th)

Stolen Bases s c a p y
1922 NL  17 (9th)
1923 NL  28 (7th)
1924 NL  24 (4th)
1925 NL  15 (9th)

Singles s c a p y
1923 NL  158 (3rd)
1925 NL  130 (10th)
1926 NL  137 (4th)
1927 NL  150 (5th)
1928 NL  139 (7th)
1929 NL  149 (6th)
1931 NL  129 (6th)
1932 NL  130 (9th)
1933 NL  156 (2nd)
Career  1,823 (79th)

Runs Created s c a p y
1923 NL  111 (6th)
1925 NL  102 (8th)
1927 NL  96 (10th)
Career  1,188 (203rd)

Extra Base Hits s c a p y
1925 NL  59 (8th)
1931 NL  54 (10th)

Times On Base s c a p y
1923 NL  247 (8th)
1925 NL  243 (8th)
1931 NL  237 (9th)
1933 NL  226 (8th)
Career  2,919 (228th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1932 NL  4 (9th)

Sacrifice Hits s c a p y
1926 NL  26 (7th)
1927 NL  35 (1st)
1928 NL  42 (1st)
1929 NL  24 (2nd)
1930 NL  23 (4th)
1933 NL  16 (8th)
Career  231 (51st)

Double Plays Grounded Into s c a p y
1934 NL  23 (2nd)

Caught Stealing s c a p y
1924 NL  18 (5th)

Power-Speed # s c a p y
1923 NL  16.8 (3rd)

AB per SO s c a p y
1923 NL  32.4 (8th)
1925 NL  31.1 (8th)
1926 NL  41.0 (5th)
1927 NL  52.1 (2nd)
1928 NL  56.9 (1st)
1929 NL  77.1 (1st)
1930 NL  26.2 (4th)
1932 NL  25.7 (8th)
1933 NL  26.0 (8th)
Career  27.2 (37th)

Outs Made s c a p y
1925 NL  424 (6th)
1931 NL  440 (4th)
1933 NL  464 (4th)

Errors Committeds c a p y
1931 NL  37 (3rd)

Def. Games as 3B s c a p y
1922 NL  124 (4th)
1923 NL  152 (1st)
1924 NL  141 (5th)
1925 NL  150 (2nd)
1926 NL  148 (2nd)
1927 NL  143 (1st)
1928 NL  144 (4th)
1929 NL  130 (3rd)
1930 NL  130 (4th)
1931 NL  155 (1st)
1932 NL  127 (2nd)
1933 NL  154 (1st)
1934 NL  110 (2nd)
Career  1,863 (19th)

Putouts as 3B s c a p y
1922 NL  147 (3rd)
1923 NL  189 (1st)
1924 NL  179 (2nd)
1925 NL  226 (1st)
1926 NL  182 (1st)
1927 NL  212 (1st)
1928 NL  175 (2nd)
1929 NL  148 (2nd)
1930 NL  130 (3rd)
1931 NL  172 (1st)
1932 NL  173 (2nd)
1933 NL  176 (1st)
1934 NL  116 (1st)
Career  2,289 (5th)

Assists as 3B s c a p y
1922 NL  216 (5th)
1923 NL  306 (1st)
1924 NL  268 (3rd)
1925 NL  303 (1st)
1926 NL  279 (2nd)
1927 NL  265 (2nd)
1928 NL  296 (3rd)
1929 NL  238 (4th)
1930 NL  268 (4th)
1931 NL  284 (2nd)
1932 NL  222 (2nd)
1933 NL  300 (1st)
1934 NL  176 (5th)
Career  3,521 (23rd)

Errors Committed as 3B s c a p y
1922 NL  21 (3rd)
1923 NL  26 (2nd)
1924 NL  15 (5th)
1925 NL  24 (3rd)
1926 NL  23 (1st)
1927 NL  19 (4th)
1928 NL  27 (1st)
1929 NL  20 (2nd)
1930 NL  25 (2nd)
1931 NL  37 (1st)
1932 NL  27 (1st)
1933 NL  27 (1st)
1934 NL  14 (5th)
Career  324 (27th)

Double Plays Turned as 3B s c a p y
1922 NL  21 (4th)
1923 NL  30 (2nd)
1924 NL  31 (1st)
1925 NL  41 (1st)
1926 NL  32 (1st)
1927 NL  23 (1st)
1929 NL  23 (3rd)
1931 NL  21 (5th)
1932 NL  14 (5th)
1933 NL  16 (4th)
1934 NL  16 (2nd)
Career  303 (27th)

Range Factor/Game as 3B s c a p y
1922 NL  2.93 (5th)
1923 NL  3.26 (2nd)
1924 NL  3.17 (2nd)
1925 NL  3.53 (1st)
1926 NL  3.11 (3rd)
1927 NL  3.34 (2nd)
1928 NL  3.27 (1st)
1929 NL  2.97 (4th)
1930 NL  3.06 (2nd)
1931 NL  2.94 (2nd)
1932 NL  3.11 (2nd)
1933 NL  3.09 (2nd)
1934 NL  2.65 (4th)
Career  3.12 (59th)

Fielding % as 3B s c a p y
1923 NL  .950 (4th)
1924 NL  .968 (2nd)
1925 NL  .957 (1st)
1926 NL  .952 (5th)
1927 NL  .962 (2nd)
1928 NL  .946 (4th)
1930 NL  .941 (5th)
1931 NL  .925 (5th)
1932 NL  .936 (2nd)
1933 NL  .946 (5th)
1934 NL  .954 (2nd)

Oldest s c a p y
1937 NL  born 1898-11-11 (5th)

                           

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Black InkBatting - 2 (619), Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray InkBatting - 134 (127), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame MonitorBatting - 96 (177), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 43 (130), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Third Base (59th), 36.2 career WAR/25.7 7yr-peak WAR/30.9 JAWS
Average HOF 3B (out of 13) = 67.4 career WAR/42.7 7yr-peak WAR/55.0 JAWS

Transactions

  • September, 1920: Purchased by the Pittsburgh Pirates from Portsmouth (Virginia) for $10,000.
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Salaries

Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses
Year Age Team Salary ServTm(OpnDay) Sources Notes/Other Sources
1931 32 Pittsburgh Pirates $14,000 ? P. Gregory, The Baseball Player...(1956)
1932 33 Pittsburgh Pirates $13,000 ? P. Gregory, The Baseball Player...(1956)
1933 34 Pittsburgh Pirates $13,000 ? P. Gregory, The Baseball Player...(1956)
1935 36 Pittsburgh Pirates $16,500 ? Contract at HOF Player-manager
Career to date (may be incomplete)$56,500
Primary salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Additional 1915-1969 salaries researched via Baseball Hall of Fame contract archives by Dr. Michael Haupert of UW-LaCrosse.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.
Salaries converted to alternate years using Consumer Price Index (CPI) data courtesy of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Board.

Name Translations

Note this is done in a automated way, so we apologize for any errors, & please report any suggested corrections
Spanish: Pie Traynor Estadísticas
French: Pie Traynor statistiques
Japanese: パイ・トレイナー 統計
Korean: 피 트레이너 통계

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