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Sloppy Thurston

Hollis John Thurston

Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 11", Weight: 165 lb.

Born: June 2, 1899 in Fremont, NE
High School: Polytechnic HS (Los Angeles, CA) (All Transactions)
Debut: April 19, 1923
Teams (by GP): WhiteSox/Dodgers/Robins/Senators/Browns 1923-1933

Final Game: October 1, 1933
Died: September 14, 1973 in Los Angeles, CA
Buried: Holy Cross Cemetery & Mausoleum, Culver City, CA
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Standard Pitching

Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
1923 24 TOT AL 7 8 .467 3.13 46 13 30 8 0 4 195.2 231 74 68 11 38 55 1 0 0 818 127 1.375 10.6 0.5 1.7 2.5 1.45
1923 24 SLB AL 0 0 6.75 2 1 1 0 0 0 4.0 8 4 3 0 2 0 0 0 0 23 68 2.500 18.0 0.0 4.5 0.0 0.00
1923 24 CHW AL 7 8 .467 3.05 44 12 29 8 0 4 191.2 223 70 65 11 36 55 1 0 0 795 129 1.351 10.5 0.5 1.7 2.6 1.53
1924 25 CHW AL 20 14 .588 3.80 38 36 2 28 1 1 291.0 330 150 123 17 60 37 6 0 5 1237 108 1.340 10.2 0.5 1.9 1.1 0.62
1925 26 CHW AL 10 14 .417 5.95 36 25 6 9 0 1 183.0 250 140 121 14 47 35 5 0 4 824 70 1.623 12.3 0.7 2.3 1.7 0.74
1926 27 CHW AL 6 8 .429 5.02 31 13 15 6 1 3 134.1 164 85 75 10 36 35 1 1 1 592 77 1.489 11.0 0.7 2.4 2.3 0.97
1927 28 WSH AL 13 13 .500 4.47 29 28 1 13 2 0 205.1 254 118 102 16 60 38 2 1 1 914 91 1.529 11.1 0.7 2.6 1.7 0.63
1930 31 BRO NL 6 4 .600 3.40 24 11 10 5 2 1 106.0 110 46 40 4 17 26 0 0 1 437 145 1.198 9.3 0.3 1.4 2.2 1.53
1931 32 BRO NL 9 9 .500 3.97 24 17 6 11 0 0 143.0 175 72 63 3 39 23 1 0 2 633 97 1.497 11.0 0.2 2.5 1.4 0.59
1932 33 BRO NL 12 8 .600 4.06 28 19 5 10 2 0 153.0 174 81 69 14 38 35 1 0 0 652 94 1.386 10.2 0.8 2.2 2.1 0.92
1933 34 BRO NL 6 8 .429 4.52 32 15 14 5 0 3 131.1 171 70 66 4 34 22 6 0 5 591 71 1.561 11.7 0.3 2.3 1.5 0.65
9 Yrs 89 86 .509 4.24 288 177 89 95 8 13 1542.2 1859 836 727 93 369 306 23 2 19 6698 94 1.444 10.8 0.5 2.2 1.8 0.83
162 Game Avg. 13 13 .509 4.24 42 26 13 14 1 2 226 272 122 106 14 54 45 3 0 3 979 94 1.444 10.8 0.5 2.2 1.8 0.83
BRO (4 yrs) 33 29 .532 4.02 108 62 35 31 4 4 533.1 630 269 238 25 128 106 8 0 8 2313 97 1.421 10.6 0.4 2.2 1.8 0.83
CHW (4 yrs) 43 44 .494 4.32 149 86 52 51 2 9 800.0 967 445 384 52 179 162 13 1 10 3448 93 1.433 10.9 0.6 2.0 1.8 0.91
WSH (1 yr) 13 13 .500 4.47 29 28 1 13 2 0 205.1 254 118 102 16 60 38 2 1 1 914 91 1.529 11.1 0.7 2.6 1.7 0.63
SLB (1 yr) 0 0 6.75 2 1 1 0 0 0 4.0 8 4 3 0 2 0 0 0 0 23 68 2.500 18.0 0.0 4.5 0.0 0.00
AL (5 yrs) 56 57 .496 4.36 180 115 54 64 4 9 1009.1 1229 567 489 68 241 200 15 2 11 4385 93 1.456 11.0 0.6 2.1 1.8 0.83
NL (4 yrs) 33 29 .532 4.02 108 62 35 31 4 4 533.1 630 269 238 25 128 106 8 0 8 2313 97 1.421 10.6 0.4 2.2 1.8 0.83

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.1): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1923 24 SLB AL 4.0 2 1 4 9.00 5.04 0.04 0.00 110.0 5.50 -2 -0.1 1.0 -0.0 -0.1 -1 .427 .499 $
1923 24 CHW AL 191.2 44 12 70 3.29 4.84 0.06 0.00 99.2 4.75 31 3.2 1.0 -0.1 4.8 53 .574 .520 $
1924 25 CHW AL 292.0 38 36 150 4.62 5.03 -0.29 0.00 97.8 5.21 16 1.6 1.0 -0.2 3.9 53 .542 .510 $
1925 26 CHW AL 182.1 36 25 140 6.91 5.36 0.08 0.00 95.5 5.05 -38 -3.3 1.0 -0.1 -1.8 -15 .408 .480 $
1926 27 CHW AL 134.1 31 13 85 5.69 5.00 0.15 0.00 95.2 4.62 -16 -1.5 1.0 -0.1 -0.4 -1 .450 .490 $
1927 28 WSH AL 205.1 29 28 118 5.17 4.96 0.13 0.00 98.2 4.75 -10 -1.0 1.0 -0.1 0.7 14 .467 .494 $
1930 31 BRO NL 106.0 24 11 46 3.91 5.66 0.40 0.00 99.0 5.21 16 1.4 1.0 -0.0 2.2 28 .559 .509 $
1931 32 BRO NL 143.0 24 17 72 4.53 4.34 -0.18 0.00 98.1 4.43 -1 -0.1 1.0 -0.1 0.9 12 .495 .499 $
1932 33 BRO NL 153.0 28 19 81 4.76 4.44 0.07 0.00 98.4 4.30 -8 -0.8 1.0 -0.1 0.3 7 .472 .495 $
1933 34 BRO NL 131.1 32 15 70 4.80 3.99 -0.39 0.00 96.9 4.25 -8 -0.8 1.0 -0.1 0.2 3 .474 .495 $
9 Seasons 1543.0 288 177 836 4.88 4.87 -0.02 0.00 97.7 4.78 -20 -1.5 1.0 -0.7 10.7 153 .495 .499 $
BRO (4 yrs) 533.1 108 62 269 4.54 4.54 -0.05 0.00 98.1 4.50 -1 -0.3 1.0 -0.2 3.6 50 .497 .499 $
CHW (4 yrs) 800.1 149 86 445 5.00 5.06 -0.05 0.00 97.2 4.96 -7 -0.0 1.0 -0.4 6.5 89 .500 .500 $
WSH (1 yr) 205.1 29 28 118 5.17 4.96 0.13 0.00 98.2 4.75 -10 -1.0 1.0 -0.1 0.7 14 .467 .494 $
SLB (1 yr) 4.0 2 1 4 9.00 5.04 0.04 0.00 110.0 5.50 -2 -0.1 1.0 -0.0 -0.1 -1 .427 .499 $

Ratio Pitching*

Year Age Tm Lg PA Ptn% HR% SO% BB% XBH% X/H% GB/FB GO/AO IP% LD% HR/FB IF/FB DPopp DPs DP%
1923 24 TOT AL 819 1.3% 6.7% 4.6% 3.1% 11% 82%
1923 24 SLB AL 22 0.0% 0.0% 9.1% 82%
1923 24 CHW AL 797 1.4% 6.9% 4.5% 3.1% 11% 82%
1924 25 CHW AL 1239 1.4% 3.0% 4.8% 5.4% 20% 88%
1925 26 CHW AL 824 1.7% 4.3% 5.7% 3.6% 12% 84%
1926 27 CHW AL 590 1.7% 5.9% 6.1% 3.1% 11% 81%
1927 28 WSH AL 915 1.8% 4.2% 6.6% 4.6% 17% 84%
1930 31 BRO NL 437 0.9% 6.0% 3.9% 3.2% 13% 88%
1931 32 BRO NL 633 0.5% 3.6% 6.2% 5.7% 21% 88%
1932 33 BRO NL 652 2.2% 5.4% 5.8% 4.5% 17% 85%
1933 34 BRO NL 591 0.7% 3.7% 5.8% 2.7% 9% 86%
9 Yrs 6700 1.4% 4.6% 5.5% 4.1% 15% 85%
MLB Averages 1.2% 7.5% 7.9% 3.2% 13% 80%

Cumulative Pitching

Year Age W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB ERA+
1923 24 7 8 .467 3.13 46 13 30 8 0 4 195.2 231 74 68 11 38 55 1 0 0 818 127 1.375 10.6 0.5 1.7 2.5 1.45 127
1924 25 27 22 .551 3.53 84 49 32 36 1 5 486.2 561 224 191 28 98 92 7 0 5 2055 115 1.354 10.4 0.5 1.8 1.7 0.94 115
1925 26 37 36 .507 4.19 120 74 38 45 1 6 669.2 811 364 312 42 145 127 12 0 9 2879 97 1.428 10.9 0.6 1.9 1.7 0.88 97
1926 27 43 44 .494 4.33 151 87 53 51 2 9 804.0 975 449 387 52 181 162 13 1 10 3471 93 1.438 10.9 0.6 2.0 1.8 0.90 93
1927 28 56 57 .496 4.36 180 115 54 64 4 9 1009.1 1229 567 489 68 241 200 15 2 11 4385 93 1.456 11.0 0.6 2.1 1.8 0.83 93
1928 29 56 57 .496 4.36 180 115 54 64 4 9 1009.1 1229 567 489 68 241 200 15 2 11 4385 93 1.456 11.0 0.6 2.1 1.8 0.83 93
1929 30 56 57 .496 4.36 180 115 54 64 4 9 1009.1 1229 567 489 68 241 200 15 2 11 4385 93 1.456 11.0 0.6 2.1 1.8 0.83 93
1930 31 62 61 .504 4.27 204 126 64 69 6 10 1115.1 1339 613 529 72 258 226 15 2 12 4822 97 1.432 10.8 0.6 2.1 1.8 0.88 97
1931 32 71 70 .504 4.23 228 143 70 80 6 10 1258.1 1514 685 592 75 297 249 16 2 14 5455 97 1.439 10.8 0.5 2.1 1.8 0.84 97
1932 33 83 78 .516 4.22 256 162 75 90 8 10 1411.1 1688 766 661 89 335 284 17 2 14 6107 96 1.433 10.8 0.6 2.1 1.8 0.85 96
1933 34 89 86 .509 4.24 288 177 89 95 8 13 1542.2 1859 836 727 93 369 306 23 2 19 6698 94 1.444 10.8 0.5 2.2 1.8 0.83 94

Neutralized Pitching

Change to: Default / 750 Runs / 1968 Dodgers / 2000 Rockies or

All seasons are converted to 162-game seasons &
average team scoring of 716 total runs (4.42 R/G) How this works
Year Age W L W-L% ERA IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WHIP H/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB HR/9 Gact
1923 24 13 8 .619 3.03 196.0 234 73 66 11 38 55 1 1.388 10.7 1.7 2.5 1.45 0.5 46
1924 25 18 15 .545 3.56 301.0 332 132 119 17 60 38 6 1.302 9.9 1.8 1.1 0.63 0.5 38
1925 26 7 13 .350 5.55 188.0 251 129 116 14 47 36 5 1.585 12.0 2.3 1.7 0.77 0.7 36
1926 27 6 9 .400 5.02 138.0 170 86 77 10 37 36 1 1.500 11.1 2.4 2.3 0.97 0.7 31
1927 28 11 12 .478 4.14 213.0 254 109 98 16 60 39 2 1.474 10.7 2.5 1.6 0.65 0.7 29
1930 31 8 4 .667 2.63 113.0 102 37 33 4 16 28 0 1.044 8.1 1.3 2.2 1.75 0.3 24
1931 32 8 8 .500 4.07 146.0 183 73 66 3 41 23 1 1.534 11.3 2.5 1.4 0.56 0.2 24
1932 33 8 9 .471 4.15 154.0 180 79 71 14 39 35 1 1.422 10.5 2.3 2.0 0.90 0.8 28
1933 34 5 9 .357 5.67 127.0 192 89 80 4 38 21 7 1.811 13.6 2.7 1.5 0.55 0.3 32
9 Yrs 84 87 .491 4.15 1576.0 1898 807 726 93 376 311 24 1.443 10.8 1.8 0.83 0.5 288

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

WAR for Pitchers† s c a p y
1923 AL  4.7 (7th)

Earned Run Average s c a p y
1923 AL  3.13 (6th)

Wins s c a p y
1924 AL  20 (3rd)

Win-Loss % s c a p y
1924 AL  .588 (10th)
1932 NL  .600 (9th)

Bases On Balls per 9 IP s c a p y
1923 AL  1.748 (3rd)
1924 AL  1.856 (2nd)
1925 AL  2.312 (6th)
Career  2.153 (139th)

Games Played s c a p y
1923 AL  46 (7th)

Saves s c a p y
1923 AL  4 (8th)
1926 AL  3 (7th)

Innings Pitched s c a p y
1924 AL  291.0 (2nd)

Games Started s c a p y
1924 AL  36 (2nd)

Complete Games s c a p y
1924 AL  28 (1st)

Shutouts s c a p y
1927 AL  2 (10th)
1930 NL  2 (5th)
1932 NL  2 (7th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1923 AL  11 (9th)
1924 AL  17 (1st)
1925 AL  14 (4th)
1927 AL  16 (3rd)

Hits s c a p y
1924 AL  330 (1st)
1927 AL  254 (9th)

Strikeouts / Base On Balls s c a p y
1923 AL  1.447 (5th)

Losses s c a p y
1924 AL  14 (8th)
1925 AL  14 (7th)

Earned Runs s c a p y
1924 AL  123 (1st)
1925 AL  121 (4th)
1927 AL  102 (9th)

Wild Pitches s c a p y
1924 AL  5 (3rd)
1933 NL  5 (10th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1933 NL  6 (6th)

Batters Faced s c a p y
1924 AL  1,237 (2nd)

Games Finished s c a p y
1923 AL  30 (1st)

Adjusted ERA+ s c a p y
1923 AL  127 (5th)

Adj. Pitching Runs s c a p y
1923 AL  22 (8th)
1930 NL  19 (8th)

Adj. Pitching Wins s c a p y
1923 AL  2.2 (8th)
1930 NL  1.7 (8th)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Black InkPitching - 2 (744), Average HOFer ≈ 40
Gray InkPitching - 36 (684), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame MonitorPitching - 6 (1202), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsPitching - 6 (1243), Average HOFer ≈ 50

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