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Jack Thoney

John Thoney (Bullet Jack)

Positions: Outfielder, Third Baseman and Second Baseman
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 10", Weight: 175 lb.

Born: December 8, 1879 in Fort Thomas, KY (All Transactions)
Debut: April 26, 1902 (Age 22.139)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1903 season [*]
Teams (by GP): RedSox/Highlanders/Naps/Bronchos/Senators/... 1902-1911

Final Game: August 12, 1911 (Age 31.247)
Died: October 24, 1948 in Covington, KY
Buried: St. Stephen Cemetery, Fort Thomas, KY
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Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1902 22 TOT AL 31 127 116 15 30 7 1 0 11 5 10 13 .259 .317 .336 .654 84 39 0 1 46/5O
1902 22 CLE AL 28 115 105 14 30 7 1 0 11 4 9 12 .286 .342 .371 .714 102 39 0 1 46/O
1902 22 BLA AL 3 12 11 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 .000 .083 .000 .083 -76 0 0 0 /5
1903 23 CLE AL 32 124 122 10 25 3 0 1 9 7 2 31 .205 .218 .254 .472 42 31 0 0 O/45
1904 24 TOT AL 53 211 198 23 45 7 2 0 18 11 9 28 .227 .264 .283 .547 71 56 1 3 O5
1904 24 WSH AL 17 71 70 6 21 3 0 0 6 2 1 8 .300 .310 .343 .653 108 24 0 0 O
1904 24 NYY AL 36 140 128 17 24 4 2 0 12 9 8 20 .188 .241 .250 .491 52 32 1 3 5O
1908 28 BOS AL 109 441 416 58 106 5 9 2 30 16 13 62 .255 .282 .325 .607 95 135 3 9 O
1909 29 BOS AL 13 43 40 1 5 1 0 0 3 2 2 3 .125 .167 .150 .317 -1 6 0 1 O
1911 31 BOS AL 26 20 20 5 5 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 .250 .250 .250 .500 40 5 0 0
6 Yrs 264 966 912 112 216 23 12 3 73 42 36 138 .237 .269 .298 .567 76 272 4 14
162 Game Avg. 162 593 560 69 133 14 7 2 45 26 22 85 .237 .269 .298 .567 76 167 2 9
BOS (3 yrs) 148 504 476 64 116 6 9 2 35 19 15 66 .244 .271 .307 .578 84 146 3 10
CLE (2 yrs) 60 239 227 24 55 10 1 1 20 11 11 43 .242 .277 .308 .586 71 70 0 1
WSH (1 yr) 17 71 70 6 21 3 0 0 6 2 1 8 .300 .310 .343 .653 108 24 0 0
BLA (1 yr) 3 12 11 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 .000 .083 .000 .083 -76 0 0 0
NYY (1 yr) 36 140 128 17 24 4 2 0 12 9 8 20 .188 .241 .250 .491 52 32 1 3

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1902 22 CLE AL 28 115 0 -0 0 -4 1 -3 -0.3 4 1 0.1 .488 .498 0.5 -0.3 5 46/O
1902 22 BLA AL 3 12 -3 0 0 -1 0 -3 -0.3 0 -3 -0.3 .388 .498 -0.2 -0.1 -2 /5
1903 23 CLE AL 32 124 -9 1 0 -1 -1 -10 -1.1 4 -5 -0.6 .466 .493 -0.5 -0.2 -4 O/45
1904 24 WSH AL 17 71 0 -0 0 0 -1 -0 -0.1 3 2 0.2 .497 .500 0.2 -0.1 2 O
1904 24 NYY AL 36 140 -7 1 0 -2 1 -7 -0.9 5 -2 -0.3 .476 .495 -0.1 -0.2 0 5O
1908 28 BOS AL 109 441 -4 -0 0 4 -5 -5 -0.6 16 11 1.1 .494 .496 0.5 -0.1 7 O
1909 29 BOS AL 13 43 -4 0 0 1 -1 -3 -0.5 2 -2 -0.3 .466 .497 -0.4 0.1 -3 O
1911 31 BOS AL 26 20 -1 0 0 0 0 -2 -0.2 1 -1 -0.1 .494 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1
6 Seasons 264 966 -27 2 0 -3 -5 -34 -4.0 35 1 -0.2 .485 .496 0.0 -0.9 4
BOS (3 yrs) 148 504 -9 -0 0 5 -6 -10 -1.2 18 8 0.7 .492 .497 0.0 -0.0 3
CLE (2 yrs) 60 239 -9 1 0 -5 0 -13 -1.5 9 -4 -0.5 .477 .496 0.0 -0.5 1
WSH (1 yr) 17 71 0 -0 0 0 -1 -0 -0.1 3 2 0.2 .497 .500 0.2 -0.1 2
BLA (1 yr) 3 12 -3 0 0 -1 0 -3 -0.3 0 -3 -0.3 .388 .498 -0.2 -0.1 -2
NYY (1 yr) 36 140 -7 1 0 -2 1 -7 -0.9 5 -2 -0.3 .476 .495 -0.1 -0.2 0

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
1902 CLE AL 22 2B 14 64 21 36 7 1 .891 4.07 .948 5.36
1902 CLE AL 22 SS 11 49 21 17 11 3 .776 3.45 .928 5.74
1902 CLE AL 22 OF 2 6 6 0 0 0 1.000 3.00 .943 2.05 0-0-2
1902 BLA AL 22 3B 3 9 3 4 2 0 .778 2.33 .912 3.57
1903 CLE AL 23 OF 24 63 50 6 7 1 .889 2.33 .952 1.95 0-23-1
1903 CLE AL 23 2B 5 21 13 5 3 1 .857 3.60 .943 5.12
1903 CLE AL 23 3B 2 5 2 2 1 1 .800 2.00 .922 3.15
1904 TOT AL 24 OF 27 70 54 8 8 2 .886 2.30 .954 1.86 0-18-9
1904 WSH AL 24 OF 17 43 33 4 6 2 .860 2.18 .954 1.86 0-8-9
1904 NYY AL 24 3B 26 86 33 38 15 2 .826 2.73 .931 3.13
1904 NYY AL 24 OF 10 27 21 4 2 0 .926 2.50 .954 1.86 0-10-0
1908 BOS AL 28 OF 101 232 208 12 12 2 .948 2.18 .954 1.84 87-11-3
1909 BOS AL 29 OF 10 25 23 1 1 1 .960 2.40 .951 1.85 10-0-0
5 Seasons OF 164 396 341 27 28 6 .929 2.24 .953 1.86 97-52-15
3 Seasons 3B 31 100 38 44 18 3 .820 2.65 .929 3.17
2 Seasons 2B 19 85 34 41 10 2 .882 3.95 .947 5.29
1 Season SS 11 49 21 17 11 3 .776 3.45 .928 5.74
6 Seasons TOT 225 630 434 129 67 14 .894 2.50 .947 2.52 97-52-15
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Triples s c a p y
1908 AL  9 (10th)

Errors Committed as OF s c a p y
1908 AL  12 (5th)

Range Factor/Game as OF s c a p y
1908 AL  2.18 (5th)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkBatting - 1 (2438), Average HOFer ≈ 144
JAWS Left Field (932nd), -0.2 career WAR/-0.2 7yr-peak WAR/-0.2 JAWS
Average HOF LF (out of 19) = 65.1 career WAR/41.5 7yr-peak WAR/53.3 JAWS

Transactions

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