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Jake Thielman

John Peter Thielman

Positions: Pitcher and Rightfielder
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 11", Weight: 175 lb.

Born: May 20, 1879 in St. Cloud, MN
School: Manhattan College (New York, NY) (All Transactions)
Debut: April 23, 1905
Teams (by GP): Cardinals/Naps/RedSox 1905-1908

Final Game: August 9, 1908
Died: January 28, 1928 in Minneapolis, MN
Buried: Calvary Cemetery, St. Cloud, MN
Relatives: Brother of Henry Thielman
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Standard Pitching

Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
1905 26 STL NL 15 16 .484 3.50 32 29 3 26 0 0 242.0 265 138 94 4 62 87 12 1 6 1018 85 1.351 9.9 0.1 2.3 3.2 1.40
1906 27 STL NL 0 1 .000 3.60 1 1 0 0 0 0 5.0 5 6 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 21 81 1.400 9.0 0.0 3.6 0.0 0.00
1907 28 CLE AL 11 8 .579 2.33 20 18 1 18 3 0 166.0 151 60 43 2 34 56 7 0 7 658 107 1.114 8.2 0.1 1.8 3.0 1.65
1908 29 TOT AL 4 3 .571 4.04 12 8 3 5 0 0 62.1 62 30 28 3 9 15 4 1 0 245 60 1.139 9.0 0.4 1.3 2.2 1.67
1908 29 CLE AL 4 3 .571 3.65 11 8 2 5 0 0 61.2 59 26 25 2 9 15 4 1 0 240 65 1.103 8.6 0.3 1.3 2.2 1.67
1908 29 BOS AL 0 0 40.50 1 0 1 0 0 0 0.2 3 4 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 5 12 4.500 40.5 13.5 0.0 0.0
4 Yrs 30 28 .517 3.16 65 56 7 49 3 0 475.1 483 234 167 9 107 158 23 2 13 1942 86 1.241 9.1 0.2 2.0 3.0 1.48
162 Game Avg. 17 16 .517 3.16 37 31 4 28 2 0 267 271 132 94 5 60 89 13 1 7 1091 86 1.241 9.1 0.2 2.0 3.0 1.48
STL (2 yrs) 15 17 .469 3.50 33 30 3 26 0 0 247.0 270 144 96 4 64 87 12 1 6 1039 85 1.352 9.8 0.1 2.3 3.2 1.36
CLE (2 yrs) 15 11 .577 2.69 31 26 3 23 3 0 227.2 210 86 68 4 43 71 11 1 7 898 92 1.111 8.3 0.2 1.7 2.8 1.65
BOS (1 yr) 0 0 40.50 1 0 1 0 0 0 0.2 3 4 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 5 12 4.500 40.5 13.5 0.0 0.0
AL (2 yrs) 15 11 .577 2.80 32 26 4 23 3 0 228.1 213 90 71 5 43 71 11 1 7 903 88 1.121 8.4 0.2 1.7 2.8 1.65
NL (2 yrs) 15 17 .469 3.50 33 30 3 26 0 0 247.0 270 144 96 4 64 87 12 1 6 1039 85 1.352 9.8 0.1 2.3 3.2 1.36

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.1): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1905 26 STL NL 242.0 32 29 138 5.13 4.20 -0.33 0.00 99.0 4.49 -17 -1.8 1.0 -0.2 0.0 4 .445 .489 $
1906 27 STL NL 5.0 1 1 6 10.80 3.64 -0.05 0.00 100.0 3.68 -4 -0.3 -0.0 -0.3 -4 .190 .498 $
1907 28 CLE AL 166.0 20 18 60 3.25 3.70 0.33 0.00 98.0 3.31 1 0.1 1.0 -0.1 1.4 15 .507 .501 $
1908 29 CLE AL 61.2 11 8 26 3.79 3.42 0.21 0.00 99.0 3.18 -4 -0.5 1.0 -0.1 0.0 1 .453 .497 $
1908 29 BOS AL 0.2 1 0 4 54.00 3.42 -0.07 0.00 102.0 3.55 -4 -0.3 1.0 -0.0 -0.3 -4 .191 .498 $
4 Seasons 475.1 65 56 234 4.43 3.92 -0.03 0.00 98.7 3.89 -27 -2.7 1.0 -0.4 0.8 13 .458 .497 $
STL (2 yrs) 247.0 33 30 144 5.25 4.18 -0.33 0.00 99.0 4.47 -21 -2.1 1.0 -0.2 -0.3 0 .437 .494 $
CLE (2 yrs) 227.2 31 26 86 3.40 3.63 0.30 0.00 98.3 3.27 -3 -0.4 1.0 -0.2 1.4 16 .488 .499 $
BOS (1 yr) 0.2 1 0 4 54.00 3.42 -0.07 0.00 102.0 3.55 -4 -0.3 1.0 -0.0 -0.3 -4 .191 .498 $

Cumulative Pitching

Year Age W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB ERA+
1905 26 15 16 .484 3.50 32 29 3 26 0 0 242.0 265 138 94 4 62 87 12 1 6 1018 85 1.351 9.9 0.1 2.3 3.2 1.40 85
1906 27 15 17 .469 3.50 33 30 3 26 0 0 247.0 270 144 96 4 64 87 12 1 6 1039 85 1.352 9.8 0.1 2.3 3.2 1.36 85
1907 28 26 25 .510 3.03 53 48 4 44 3 0 413.0 421 204 139 6 98 143 19 1 13 1697 92 1.257 9.2 0.1 2.1 3.1 1.46 92
1908 29 30 28 .517 3.16 65 56 7 49 3 0 475.1 483 234 167 9 107 158 23 2 13 1942 86 1.241 9.1 0.2 2.0 3.0 1.48 86

Neutralized Pitching

Change to: Default / 750 Runs / 1968 Dodgers / 2000 Rockies or

All seasons are converted to 162-game seasons &
average team scoring of 716 total runs (4.42 R/G) How this works
Year Age W L W-L% ERA IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WHIP H/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB HR/9 Gact
1905 26 12 13 .480 4.17 231.0 289 119 107 4 68 83 13 1.545 11.3 2.6 3.2 1.22 0.2 32
1906 27 0 0 5.40 5.0 6 3 3 0 2 0 0 1.600 10.8 3.6 0.0 0.00 0.0 1
1907 28 10 7 .588 3.23 156.0 176 62 56 2 40 53 8 1.385 10.2 2.3 3.1 1.33 0.1 20
1908 29 2 4 .333 6.22 55.0 73 42 38 4 11 13 5 1.527 11.9 1.8 2.1 1.18 0.7 12
4 Yrs 24 24 .500 4.11 447.0 544 226 204 10 121 149 26 1.488 11.0 3.0 1.23 0.2 65

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Bases On Balls per 9 IP s c a p y
1907 AL  1.843 (8th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1908 AL  3 (7th)

Wild Pitches s c a p y
1907 AL  7 (8th)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkPitching - 2 (2466), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame MonitorPitching - 3 (1555), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

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