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Henry Thielman

Henry Joseph Thielman

Positions: Pitcher and Outfielder
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 11", Weight: 175 lb.

Born: October 3, 1880 in St. Cloud, MN
Schools: Manhattan College, University of Notre Dame
Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Giants in 1902. (All Transactions)
Debut: April 17, 1902
Teams (by GP): Reds/Superbas/Giants 1902-1903

Final Game: May 15, 1903
Died: September 2, 1942 in New York, NY
Buried: Calvary Cemetery, St. Cloud, MN
Relatives: Brother of Jake Thielman
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Fine Details  · Last Updated Dec 23, 2011, 9:51AM
All-Time Rank (among Pitchers): #1. Walter Johnson… #2. Cy Young… #3. Greg Maddux… #4. Christy Mathewson… #5. Pete Alexander… #6. Tom Seaver… #7. Randy Johnson… 

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Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
1902 21 TOT NL 9 16 .360 3.19 27 25 2 22 0 1 217.0 209 121 77 2 84 54 19 0 6 929 94 1.350 8.7 0.1 3.5 2.2 0.64
1902 21 NYG NL 0 1 .000 1.50 2 2 0 0 0 0 6.0 8 10 1 0 6 5 0 0 0 31 204 2.333 12.0 0.0 9.0 7.5 0.83
1902 21 CIN NL 9 15 .375 3.24 25 23 2 22 0 1 211.0 201 111 76 2 78 49 19 0 6 898 93 1.322 8.6 0.1 3.3 2.1 0.63
1903 22 BRO NL 0 3 .000 4.66 4 3 1 3 0 0 29.0 31 20 15 3 14 10 2 0 1 110 70 1.552 9.6 0.9 4.3 3.1 0.71
2 Seasons 9 19 .321 3.37 31 28 3 25 0 1 246.0 240 141 92 5 98 64 21 0 7 1039 90 1.374 8.8 0.2 3.6 2.3 0.65
162 Game Avg. 10 22 .321 3.37 36 32 3 29 0 1 284 277 163 106 6 113 74 24 0 8 1197 90 1.374 8.8 0.2 3.6 2.3 0.65
NYG (1 yr) 0 1 .000 1.50 2 2 0 0 0 0 6.0 8 10 1 0 6 5 0 0 0 31 204 2.333 12.0 0.0 9.0 7.5 0.83
BRO (1 yr) 0 3 .000 4.66 4 3 1 3 0 0 29.0 31 20 15 3 14 10 2 0 1 110 70 1.552 9.6 0.9 4.3 3.1 0.71
CIN (1 yr) 9 15 .375 3.24 25 23 2 22 0 1 211.0 201 111 76 2 78 49 19 0 6 898 93 1.322 8.6 0.1 3.3 2.1 0.63

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR: 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Strtr, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl.
Year Age Tm Lg IP GS R Rrep Rdef aLI RAR WAR Salary Awards
1902 21 NYG NL 6.0 2 9 3 0 1.0 -6 -0.7 $
1902 21 CIN NL 211.0 23 111 106 2 1.0 -5 0.1 $
1903 22 BRO NL 29.0 3 20 18 0 1.0 -2 -0.3 $
2 Seasons 246.0 28 140 127 2 1.0 -13 -0.9 $
NYG (1 yr) 6.0 2 9 3 0 1.0 -6 -0.7 $
BRO (1 yr) 29.0 3 20 18 0 1.0 -2 -0.3 $
CIN (1 yr) 211.0 23 111 106 2 1.0 -5 0.1 $

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1902 21 TOT NL 34 109 100 6 13 0 2 0 4 1 7 25 .130 .187 .170 .357 7 17 0 2 1/O
1902 21 NYG NL 6 11 9 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 1 .111 .273 .111 .384 19 1 0 0 /O1
1902 21 CIN NL 28 98 91 6 12 0 2 0 4 0 5 24 .132 .177 .176 .353 5 16 0 2 1/O
1903 22 BRO NL 9 28 23 3 5 1 0 1 2 0 5 5 .217 .357 .391 .748 116 9 0 0 /O1
2 Seasons 43 137 123 9 18 1 2 1 6 1 12 30 .146 .222 .211 .434 29 26 0 2
162 Game Avg. 162 516 463 34 68 4 8 4 23 4 45 113 .146 .222 .211 .434 29 98 0 8
NYG (1 yr) 6 11 9 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 1 .111 .273 .111 .384 19 1 0 0
BRO (1 yr) 9 28 23 3 5 1 0 1 2 0 5 5 .217 .357 .391 .748 116 9 0 0
CIN (1 yr) 28 98 91 6 12 0 2 0 4 0 5 24 .132 .177 .176 .353 5 16 0 2

Player Value--Batters

WAR: 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Strtr, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl.
Year Age Tm Lg PA Rbat Rbaser Rroe Rdp Rfield Rpos Rrep RAR WAR oRAR oWAR dWAR Salary Pos Awards
1902 21 NYG NL 11 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 -0.1 -1 -0.1 0.0 $ /O1
1902 21 CIN NL 98 -10 0 0 0 0 3 3 -4 -0.5 -4 -0.4 -0.1 $1,950 1/O
1903 22 BRO NL 28 0 0 0 0 -1 1 1 1 0.1 2 0.2 -0.1 $ /O1
2 Seasons 137 -11 0 0 0 -1 4 4 -4 -0.5 -3 -0.3 -0.2 $1,950
NYG (1 yr) 11 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 -0.1 -1 -0.1 0.0 $
BRO (1 yr) 28 0 0 0 0 -1 1 1 1 0.1 2 0.2 -0.1 $
CIN (1 yr) 98 -10 0 0 0 0 3 3 -4 -0.5 -4 -0.4 -0.1 $1,950

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
1902 TOT NL 21 P 27 217.0 72 8 57 7 2 .903 2.70 2.41 .933 2.72 2.68
1902 TOT NL 21 OF 6 14 10 1 3 0 .786 1.83 .946 1.97 3-2-1
1902 NYG NL 21 OF 3 7 5 1 1 0 .857 2.00 .946 1.97 0-2-1
1902 NYG NL 21 P 2 6.0 5 0 4 1 0 .800 6.00 2.00 .932 2.70 2.70
1902 CIN NL 21 P 25 211.0 67 8 53 6 2 .910 2.60 2.44 .933 2.72 2.68
1902 CIN NL 21 OF 3 7 5 0 2 0 .714 1.67 .946 1.97 3-0-0
1903 BRO NL 22 OF 5 8 6 0 2 0 .750 1.20 .942 1.94 0-4-0
1903 BRO NL 22 P 4 29.0 13 3 10 0 1 1.000 4.03 3.25 .924 2.86 2.80
2 Seasons P 31 246.0 85 11 67 7 3 .918 2.85 2.52 .932 2.74 2.70
2 Seasons OF 11 22 16 1 5 0 .773 1.55 .945 1.95 3-6-1
2 Seasons TOT 42 246.0 107 27 68 12 3 .888 2.85 2.26 .934 2.74 2.50 3-6-1
Note: Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
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  • Pre-1950 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
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Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Saves s c a p y
1902 NL  1 (5th)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1902 NL  84 (6th)

Losses s c a p y
1902 NL  16 (8th)

Wild Pitches s c a p y
1902 NL  6 (10th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1902 NL  19 (2nd)

Errors Committed as P s c a p y
1902 NL  7 (5th)

Youngest s c a p y
1902 NL  born 1880-10-03 (6th)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

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Gray InkPitching - 3 (2106), Average HOFer ≈ 185

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Salaries

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Year Age Team Salary Sources Notes
190221Cincinnati Reds$1,9508/23/02 Sporting Life
Career to date (may be incomplete)$1,950
Salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.

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