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Willie Sudhoff

John William Sudhoff (Wee Willie)

Positions: Pitcher and Outfielder
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 7", Weight: 165 lb.

Born: September 17, 1874 in St. Louis, MO (All Transactions)
Debut: August 20, 1897 (Age 22.337)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1897 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Browns/Cardinals/Perfectos/Spiders/Senators 1897-1906

Final Game: June 16, 1906 (Age 31.272)
Died: May 25, 1917 in St. Louis, MO
Buried: Bethany Cemetery, Pagedale, MO
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Fine Details  · Last updated Sep 19, 2014 9:17PM
All-Time Rank (among pitchers): #818. Cy Morgan… #819. Michael Jackson… #820. George Winter… #821. WILLIE SUDHOFF… #822. Tim Burke… #823. Jim Brosnan… #824. Jeff Shaw… 

Standard Pitching

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Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards
1897 22 STL NL 2 7 .222 4.47 11 9 2 9 0 0 92.2 126 72 46 8 21 19 4 0 1 417 99 4.84 1.586 12.2 0.8 2.0 1.8 0.90
1898 23 STL NL 11 27 .289 4.34 41 38 3 35 0 1 315.0 355 205 152 11 102 65 27 0 4 1388 87 4.04 1.451 10.1 0.3 2.9 1.9 0.64
1899 24 TOT NL 15 18 .455 5.00 36 33 3 24 0 0 264.2 324 194 147 9 87 39 22 0 4 1186 78 4.32 1.553 11.0 0.3 3.0 1.3 0.45
1899 24 CLV NL 3 8 .273 6.98 11 10 1 8 0 0 86.1 131 85 67 3 25 10 7 0 2 409 53 4.27 1.807 13.7 0.3 2.6 1.0 0.40
1899 24 STL NL 12 10 .545 4.04 25 23 2 16 0 0 178.1 193 109 80 6 62 29 15 0 2 777 98 4.35 1.430 9.7 0.3 3.1 1.5 0.47
1900 25 STL NL 6 8 .429 2.76 16 14 2 13 2 0 127.0 128 62 39 3 37 29 8 0 0 535 131 3.74 1.299 9.1 0.2 2.6 2.1 0.78
1901 26 STL NL 17 11 .607 3.52 38 26 11 25 1 2 276.1 281 142 108 4 92 78 18 0 7 1183 91 3.74 1.350 9.2 0.1 3.0 2.5 0.85
1902 27 SLB AL 12 12 .500 2.86 30 25 5 20 0 0 220.0 213 99 70 6 67 42 12 0 2 916 122 3.72 1.273 8.7 0.2 2.7 1.7 0.63
1903 28 SLB AL 21 15 .583 2.27 38 35 3 30 5 0 293.2 262 100 74 4 56 104 9 0 5 1164 128 2.89 1.083 8.0 0.1 1.7 3.2 1.86
1904 29 SLB AL 8 15 .348 3.76 27 24 3 20 1 0 222.1 232 121 93 8 54 63 10 0 1 925 66 3.18 1.286 9.4 0.3 2.2 2.6 1.17
1905 30 SLB AL 10 20 .333 2.99 32 30 2 23 1 0 244.0 222 121 81 8 78 70 13 0 4 1000 85 3.49 1.230 8.2 0.3 2.9 2.6 0.90
1906 31 WSH AL 0 2 .000 9.15 9 5 4 0 0 0 19.2 30 25 20 1 9 7 2 0 2 96 30 4.00 1.983 13.7 0.5 4.1 3.2 0.78
10 Yrs 102 135 .430 3.60 278 239 38 199 10 3 2075.1 2173 1141 830 62 603 516 125 0 30 8810 91 3.70 1.338 9.4 0.3 2.6 2.2 0.86
162 Game Avg. 13 18 .430 3.60 37 31 5 26 1 0 273 286 150 109 8 79 68 16 0 4 1159 91 3.70 1.338 9.4 0.3 2.6 2.2 0.86
STL (5 yrs) 48 63 .432 3.87 131 110 20 98 3 3 989.1 1083 590 425 32 314 220 72 0 14 4300 96 4.05 1.412 9.9 0.3 2.9 2.0 0.70
SLB (4 yrs) 51 62 .451 2.92 127 114 13 93 7 0 980.0 929 441 318 26 255 279 44 0 12 4005 98 3.29 1.208 8.5 0.2 2.3 2.6 1.09
WSH (1 yr) 0 2 .000 9.15 9 5 4 0 0 0 19.2 30 25 20 1 9 7 2 0 2 96 30 4.00 1.983 13.7 0.5 4.1 3.2 0.78
CLV (1 yr) 3 8 .273 6.98 11 10 1 8 0 0 86.1 131 85 67 3 25 10 7 0 2 409 53 4.27 1.807 13.7 0.3 2.6 1.0 0.40
NL (5 yrs) 51 71 .418 4.12 142 120 21 106 3 3 1075.2 1214 675 492 35 339 230 79 0 16 4709 90 4.07 1.444 10.2 0.3 2.8 1.9 0.68
AL (5 yrs) 51 64 .443 3.04 136 119 17 93 7 0 999.2 959 466 338 27 264 286 46 0 14 4101 94 3.30 1.223 8.6 0.2 2.4 2.6 1.08
Hold your mouse over the values in the Saves, ERA, or FIP columns for additional information.

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1897 22 STL NL 92.2 11 9 72 6.99 6.01 -0.44 0.00 102.0 6.57 -2 -0.2 1.0 -0.1 0.6 7 .485 .499
1898 23 STL NL 315.0 41 38 205 5.86 5.07 -0.28 0.00 105.0 5.62 -1 -0.0 1.0 -0.3 2.7 25 .499 .500
1899 24 CLV NL 86.1 11 10 85 8.86 5.40 -0.80 0.00 96.0 5.96 -25 -2.0 1.0 -0.1 -1.2 -18 .323 .488
1899 24 STL NL 178.1 25 23 109 5.50 5.24 0.10 0.00 103.0 5.29 1 0.1 1.0 -0.2 1.6 16 .503 .500
1900 25 STL NL 127.0 16 14 62 4.39 5.21 -0.12 0.00 98.0 5.23 14 1.3 1.0 -0.1 2.5 26 .584 .508
1901 26 STL NL 276.1 38 26 142 4.62 4.49 0.20 0.00 96.0 4.12 -13 -1.3 1.0 -0.4 0.8 10 .467 .492
1902 27 SLB AL 220.0 30 25 99 4.05 4.96 0.25 0.00 99.0 4.66 16 1.6 1.0 -0.3 3.6 39 .555 .510
1903 28 SLB AL 293.2 38 35 100 3.06 4.17 0.16 0.00 98.0 3.93 33 3.9 1.0 -0.3 6.6 55 .604 .524 $3,000
1904 29 SLB AL 222.1 27 24 121 4.90 3.61 -0.09 0.00 96.0 3.55 -31 -3.3 1.0 -0.2 -1.4 -16 .376 .479
1905 30 SLB AL 244.0 32 30 121 4.46 3.74 -0.11 0.00 96.0 3.70 -19 -2.2 1.0 -0.2 0.1 -1 .433 .487
1906 31 WSH AL 19.2 9 5 25 11.44 3.70 -0.40 0.00 98.0 4.02 -16 -1.6 1.0 -0.0 -1.4 -15 .322 .490
10 Seasons 2075.1 278 239 1141 4.95 4.61 -0.05 0.00 99.0 4.62 -43 -3.5 1.0 -2.0 14.4 128 .487 .499 $3,000
STL (5 yrs) 989.1 131 110 590 5.37 5.04 -0.07 0.00 100.9 5.18 -0 -0.1 1.0 -1.0 8.2 84 .500 .499
SLB (4 yrs) 980.0 127 114 441 4.05 4.11 0.06 0.00 97.3 3.95 -0 0.1 1.0 -0.9 8.9 77 .501 .502 $3,000
WSH (1 yr) 19.2 9 5 25 11.44 3.70 -0.40 0.00 98.0 4.02 -16 -1.6 1.0 -0.0 -1.4 -15 .322 .490
CLV (1 yr) 86.1 11 10 85 8.86 5.40 -0.80 0.00 96.0 5.96 -25 -2.0 1.0 -0.1 -1.2 -18 .323 .488

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1897 22 STL NL 11 44 42 7 10 1 0 0 3 0 1 4 .238 .256 .262 .518 38 11 0 1 1
1898 23 STL NL 41 131 120 5 19 2 1 0 4 0 5 34 .158 .198 .192 .390 11 23 1 5 1
1899 24 TOT NL 36 114 95 10 15 1 1 0 6 0 12 16 .158 .252 .189 .442 23 18 0 7 1
1899 24 CLV NL 11 37 31 1 2 0 1 0 6 0 4 3 .065 .171 .129 .300 -13 4 0 2 1
1899 24 STL NL 25 77 64 9 13 1 0 0 0 0 8 13 .203 .292 .219 .510 40 14 0 5 1
1900 25 STL NL 35 119 106 15 20 1 1 0 6 8 11 26 .189 .271 .217 .488 36 23 1 1 1O/5
1901 26 STL NL 38 121 108 11 19 2 3 1 17 0 10 30 .176 .252 .278 .530 57 30 1 2 1
1902 27 SLB AL 31 85 77 6 13 2 0 0 5 3 4 12 .169 .220 .195 .414 16 15 1 3 1/O
1903 28 SLB AL 41 116 110 12 20 1 2 0 6 1 3 21 .182 .204 .227 .431 31 25 0 3 1/O
1904 29 SLB AL 29 94 85 5 14 3 0 0 7 0 6 21 .165 .237 .200 .437 42 17 2 1 1/O
1905 30 SLB AL 32 93 86 6 16 3 1 0 3 1 7 15 .186 .247 .244 .491 59 21 0 0 1
1906 31 WSH AL 9 7 7 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .429 .429 .429 .857 174 3 0 0 /1
10 Yrs 303 924 836 77 149 16 9 1 57 13 59 180 .178 .238 .222 .460 35 186 6 23
162 Game Avg. 162 494 447 41 80 9 5 1 30 7 32 96 .178 .238 .222 .460 35 99 3 12
STL (5 yrs) 150 492 440 47 81 7 5 1 30 8 35 107 .184 .249 .230 .478 35 101 3 14
SLB (4 yrs) 133 388 358 29 63 9 3 0 21 5 20 69 .176 .226 .218 .444 37 78 3 7
WSH (1 yr) 9 7 7 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .429 .429 .429 .857 174 3 0 0
CLV (1 yr) 11 37 31 1 2 0 1 0 6 0 4 3 .065 .171 .129 .300 -13 4 0 2
NL (5 yrs) 161 529 471 48 83 7 6 1 36 8 39 110 .176 .244 .223 .467 32 105 3 16
AL (5 yrs) 142 395 365 29 66 9 3 0 21 5 20 70 .181 .229 .222 .451 39 81 3 7

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1897 22 STL NL 11 44 -4 0 0 0 3 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .495 .500 -0.1 0.0 -1 1
1898 23 STL NL 41 131 -16 0 0 0 8 -8 -0.8 0 -8 -0.8 .481 .495 -0.8 0.0 -8 1
1899 24 CLV NL 11 37 -5 0 0 0 3 -2 -0.2 0 -2 -0.2 .484 .499 -0.2 0.0 -2 1
1899 24 STL NL 25 77 -6 0 0 0 6 0 -0.0 0 0 -0.0 .500 .500 0.0 0.0 0 1
1900 25 STL NL 35 119 -10 1 0 -2 9 -3 -0.3 0 -3 -0.3 .492 .498 -0.1 -0.2 -1 1O/5
1901 26 STL NL 38 121 -7 0 0 0 9 2 0.2 0 2 0.2 .506 .502 0.2 -0.0 2 1
1902 27 SLB AL 31 85 -9 0 0 0 6 -3 -0.3 0 -3 -0.3 .491 .498 -0.3 -0.0 -3 1/O
1903 28 SLB AL 41 116 -9 0 0 0 9 0 -0.0 0 0 -0.0 .500 .500 -0.0 -0.0 0 $3,000 1/O
1904 29 SLB AL 29 94 -5 0 0 0 6 1 0.1 0 1 0.1 .503 .501 0.1 -0.0 1 1/O
1905 30 SLB AL 32 93 -4 -0 0 0 7 3 0.4 0 3 0.4 .512 .502 0.4 -0.0 3 1
1906 31 WSH AL 9 7 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.1 0 1 0.1 .512 .501 0.1 0.0 1 /1
10 Seasons 303 924 -75 2 0 -2 65 -9 -0.9 0 -9 -0.9 .498 .499 -0.6 -0.3 -7 $3,000
STL (5 yrs) 150 492 -44 2 0 -2 34 -9 -0.9 0 -9 -0.9 .494 .499 -0.7 -0.2 -7
SLB (4 yrs) 133 388 -27 0 0 0 28 1 0.1 0 1 0.1 .501 .500 0.2 -0.1 1 $3,000
WSH (1 yr) 9 7 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.1 0 1 0.1 .512 .501 0.1 0.0 1
CLV (1 yr) 11 37 -5 0 0 0 3 -2 -0.2 0 -2 -0.2 .484 .499 -0.2 0.0 -2

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
1897 STL NL 22 P 11 92.2 40 8 29 3 2 .925 3.59 3.36 .920 2.54 2.44
1898 STL NL 23 P 41 315.0 141 15 114 12 5 .915 3.69 3.15 .918 2.65 2.55
1899 TOT NL 24 P 36 264.2 122 11 101 10 3 .918 3.81 3.11 .910 2.68 2.56
1899 CLV NL 24 P 11 86.1 40 5 31 4 1 .900 3.75 3.27 .910 2.68 2.56
1899 STL NL 24 P 25 178.1 82 6 70 6 2 .927 3.84 3.04 .910 2.68 2.56
1900 STL NL 25 P 16 127.0 44 5 35 4 0 .909 2.83 2.50 .921 2.67 2.59
1900 STL NL 25 OF 12 18 15 1 2 1 .889 1.33 .940 2.17 0-10-2
1900 STL NL 25 3B 7 33 6 21 6 0 .818 3.86 .895 3.81
1901 STL NL 26 P 38 276.1 103 14 84 5 4 .951 3.19 2.58 .934 2.75 2.72
1902 SLB AL 27 P 30 220.0 102 8 84 10 4 .902 3.76 3.07 .928 3.10 3.03
1902 SLB AL 27 OF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.10 0-0-1
1903 SLB AL 28 P 38 293.2 124 15 104 5 0 .960 3.65 3.13 .948 3.19 3.13
1903 SLB AL 28 OF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.00 0-1-0
1904 SLB AL 29 P 27 222.1 115 9 104 2 4 .983 4.57 4.19 .952 3.45 3.39
1904 SLB AL 29 OF 3 5 4 0 1 0 .800 1.33 .954 1.87 3-0-0
1905 SLB AL 30 P 32 244.0 120 20 96 4 0 .967 4.28 3.63 .942 3.25 3.21
1906 WSH AL 31 P 9 19.2 13 1 11 1 0 .923 5.49 1.33 .948 3.20 3.17
10 Seasons P 278 2075.1 924 106 762 56 22 .939 3.76 3.12 .932 2.95 2.88
4 Seasons OF 17 23 19 1 3 1 .870 1.18 .943 2.10 3-11-3
1 Season 3B 7 33 6 21 6 0 .818 3.86 .895 3.81
10 Seasons TOT 302 2075.1 980 131 784 65 23 .934 3.76 3.03 .931 2.95 2.86 3-11-3
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
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Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Wins Above Replacements c a p y
1903 AL  6.5 (7th)

WAR for Pitcherss c a p y
1903 AL  6.6 (5th)

Earned Run Average s c a p y
1902 AL  2.86 (8th)
1903 AL  2.27 (8th)

Wins s c a p y
1903 AL  21 (3rd)

Win-Loss % s c a p y
1901 NL  .607 (10th)
1903 AL  .583 (9th)

Walks & Hits per IP s c a p y
1903 AL  1.083 (6th)

Hits per 9 IP s c a p y
1902 AL  8.714 (9th)
1903 AL  8.030 (10th)

Games Played s c a p y
1901 NL  38 (7th)
1903 AL  38 (7th)

Saves s c a p y
1898 NL  1 (6th)
1901 NL  2 (3rd)

Games Started s c a p y
1903 AL  35 (6th)

Complete Games s c a p y
Career  199 (138th)

Shutouts s c a p y
1900 NL  2 (10th)
1903 AL  5 (4th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1897 NL  8 (10th)
1898 NL  11 (4th)
1899 NL  9 (8th)
1904 AL  8 (2nd)
1905 AL  8 (2nd)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1901 NL  92 (7th)

Hits s c a p y
1898 NL  355 (7th)

Home Runs per 9 IP s c a p y
Career  0.269 (241st)

Losses s c a p y
1898 NL  27 (2nd)
1899 NL  18 (10th)
1905 AL  20 (5th)
Career  135 (237th)

Earned Runs s c a p y
1898 NL  152 (3rd)
1899 NL  147 (5th)
1901 NL  108 (9th)
1904 AL  93 (9th)
1905 AL  81 (10th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1898 NL  27 (4th)
1899 NL  22 (9th)
1901 NL  18 (2nd)
1902 AL  12 (7th)
1903 AL  9 (9th)
1905 AL  13 (4th)
Career  125 (43rd)

Games Finished s c a p y
1901 NL  11 (1st)
1902 AL  5 (2nd)

Adjusted ERA+ s c a p y
1902 AL  122 (9th)
1903 AL  128 (7th)

Adj. Pitching Runs s c a p y
1903 AL  23 (7th)

Adj. Pitching Wins s c a p y
1903 AL  2.5 (7th)

Assists as P s c a p y
1898 NL  114 (3rd)
1899 NL  101 (3rd)
1903 AL  104 (4th)
Career  762 (68th)

Errors Committed as P s c a p y
1898 NL  12 (5th)
1902 AL  10 (3rd)
Career  56 (78th)

Range Factor/9Inn as Ps c a p y
1898 NL  3.69 (1st)
1899 NL  3.81 (1st)
1904 AL  4.57 (3rd)
1905 AL  4.28 (3rd)

Range Factor/Game as P s c a p y
1898 NL  3.15 (3rd)
1899 NL  3.11 (5th)
1904 AL  4.19 (3rd)
1905 AL  3.63 (4th)
Career  3.12 (8th)

Fielding % as P s c a p y
1904 AL  .983 (3rd)

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkPitching - 33 (737), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame MonitorPitching - 13 (861), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsPitching - 8 (1063), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Starting Pitcher (669th), 13.6 career WAR/16.0 7yr-peak WAR/14.8 JAWS
Average HOF P (out of 59) = 73.4 career WAR/50.2 7yr-peak WAR/61.8 JAWS

Transactions

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Salaries

Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses
Year Age Team Salary ServTm(OpnDay) Sources Notes/Other Sources
1903 28 St. Louis Browns $3,000 ? 2/20/03 TSN
Career to date (may be incomplete)$3,000
Primary salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Additional 1915-1969 salaries researched via Baseball Hall of Fame contract archives by Dr. Michael Haupert of UW-LaCrosse.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.
Salaries converted to alternate years using Consumer Price Index (CPI) data courtesy of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Board.

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