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Joe Sommer

Joseph John Sommer

Positions: Leftfielder, Third Baseman and Second Baseman
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 11", Weight: 165 lb.

Born: November 20, 1858 in Covington, KY (All Transactions)
Debut: July 8, 1880 (Age 21.231)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1882 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Orioles/RedStockings/Reds/Spiders 1880-1890

Final Game: October 15, 1890 (Age 31.329)
Died: January 16, 1938 in Cincinnati, OH
Buried: Highland Cemetery, Fort Mitchell, KY
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Fine Details  · Last updated Oct 24, 2014 11:17AM
All-Time Rank (among batters): #1826. Cub Stricker… #1827. John Buck… #1828. Willie Bloomquist… #1829. JOE SOMMER… #1830. Sean Rodriguez… #1831. Wilson Betemit… #1832. Jim Wohlford… 

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1880 21 CIN NL 24 88 88 10 16 1 0 0 6 0 2 .182 .182 .193 .375 29 17 O/526
1882 23 CIN AA 80 378 354 82 102 12 6 1 29 24 .288 .333 .364 .698 129 129 *O
1883 24 CIN AA 97 433 413 79 115 5 7 3 52 20 .278 .312 .346 .658 107 143 *O/51
1884 25 BAL AA 107 495 479 96 129 11 10 4 8 .269 .293 .359 .652 108 172 8 *5/O4
1885 26 BAL AA 110 498 471 84 118 23 6 1 44 24 .251 .291 .331 .622 97 156 3 *O/5163
1886 27 BAL AA 139 587 560 79 117 18 4 1 52 31 24 .209 .245 .261 .506 61 146 3 *O45/61
1887 28 BAL AA 131 530 463 88 123 11 5 0 65 29 63 36 .266 .358 .311 .670 91 144 4 *O45/61
1888 29 BAL AA 79 316 297 31 65 10 0 0 35 13 18 29 .219 .266 .253 .518 71 75 1 O6/43
1889 30 BAL AA 106 429 386 51 85 13 2 1 36 18 42 49 .220 .298 .272 .570 61 105 1 *O/6
1890 31 TOT MLB 47 179 164 17 41 5 2 0 23 10 15 .250 .313 .305 .618 78 50 0 O/1
1890 31 CLV NL 9 37 35 4 8 1 0 0 0 0 2 2 .229 .270 .257 .527 57 9 0 /O1
1890 31 BAL AA 38 142 129 13 33 4 2 0 23 10 13 .256 .324 .318 .642 83 41 0 O
10 Yrs 920 3933 3675 617 911 109 42 11 342 101 238 118 .248 .297 .309 .607 88 1137 20
162 Game Avg. 162 693 647 109 160 19 7 2 60 42 .248 .297 .309 .607 88 200
BAL (7 yrs) 710 2997 2785 442 670 90 29 7 255 101 192 114 .241 .294 .301 .596 82 839 20
CIN (2 yrs) 177 811 767 161 217 17 13 4 81 44 .283 .322 .355 .676 117 272
CIN (1 yr) 24 88 88 10 16 1 0 0 6 0 2 .182 .182 .193 .375 29 17
CLV (1 yr) 9 37 35 4 8 1 0 0 0 0 2 2 .229 .270 .257 .527 57 9 0
AA (9 yrs) 887 3808 3552 603 887 107 42 11 336 101 236 114 .250 .300 .313 .613 89 1111 20
NL (2 yrs) 33 125 123 14 24 2 0 0 6 0 2 4 .195 .208 .211 .419 38 26 0

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1880 21 CIN NL 24 88 -5 0 0 0 -1 -6 -0.7 3 -4 -0.4 .472 .496 -0.3 -0.1 -3 O/526
1882 23 CIN AA 80 378 11 0 0 10 -5 16 1.5 7 23 2.3 .519 .509 1.4 0.5 13 *O
1883 24 CIN AA 97 433 3 0 0 7 -6 4 0.3 9 13 1.3 .503 .502 0.7 0.1 6 $1,200 *O/51
1884 25 BAL AA 107 495 3 0 0 2 3 8 0.4 10 17 1.5 .507 .504 1.6 0.2 15 $1,800 *5/O4
1885 26 BAL AA 110 498 -1 0 0 9 -7 1 0.1 10 11 1.2 .501 .501 0.4 0.2 2 *O/5163
1886 27 BAL AA 139 587 -26 1 0 4 -5 -26 -2.3 13 -13 -0.9 .484 .486 -1.3 -0.1 -17 *O45/61
1887 28 BAL AA 131 530 2 -4 0 1 -6 -7 -0.5 11 4 0.7 .496 .496 0.5 -0.3 3 *O45/61
1888 29 BAL AA 79 316 -9 -2 0 -4 -0 -15 -1.4 7 -8 -0.7 .483 .492 -0.3 -0.4 -4 O6/43
1889 30 BAL AA 106 429 -22 -2 0 4 -6 -26 -2.2 9 -17 -1.2 .479 .487 -1.6 -0.2 -21 *O/6
1890 31 CLV NL 9 37 -2 -0 0 -1 -1 -3 -0.3 1 -2 -0.2 .466 .498 -0.1 -0.2 -1 /O1
1890 31 BAL AA 38 142 -3 0 0 0 -2 -6 -0.5 3 -2 -0.2 .487 .497 -0.2 -0.2 -2 O
10 Seasons 920 3933 -50 -5 0 32 -37 -61 -5.5 83 23 3.4 .494 .496 0.7 -0.3 -9 $3,000
BAL (7 yrs) 710 2997 -57 -5 0 16 -24 -70 -6.3 63 -7 0.4 .491 .494 -1.0 -0.7 -23 $1,800
CIN (2 yrs) 177 811 14 0 0 17 -11 20 1.8 16 36 3.6 .510 .505 2.1 0.6 19 $1,200
CIN (1 yr) 24 88 -5 0 0 0 -1 -6 -0.7 3 -4 -0.4 .472 .496 -0.3 -0.1 -3
CLV (1 yr) 9 37 -2 -0 0 -1 -1 -3 -0.3 1 -2 -0.2 .466 .498 -0.1 -0.2 -1

Standard Pitching

More Stats

Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards
1883 24 CIN AA 0 0 5.40 1 0 1 0 0 0 5.0 9 6 3 0 1 2 0 1 26 66 3.05 2.000 16.2 0.0 1.8 3.6 2.00
1885 26 BAL AA 0 0 9.00 2 0 2 0 0 1 3.0 6 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 14 42 2.88 2.000 18.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1886 27 BAL AA 0 0 18.00 1 0 1 0 0 0 4.0 14 12 8 0 3 1 0 0 0 30 21 4.85 4.250 31.5 0.0 6.8 2.3 0.33
1887 28 BAL AA 0 0 9.00 1 0 1 0 0 0 1.0 2 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 7 62 6.28 3.000 18.0 0.0 9.0 0.0 0.00
1890 31 CLV NL 0 0 0.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 2 3 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 7 21.92 4.000 18.0 9.0 18.0 0.0 0.00
5 Yrs 0 0 9.64 6 0 5 0 0 1 14.0 33 25 15 1 7 3 0 0 3 84 41 5.11 2.857 21.2 0.6 4.5 1.9 0.43
162 Game Avg. 0 0 9.64 68 0 57 0 0 11 159 374 283 170 11 79 34 0 34 952 41 5.11 2.857 21.2 0.6 4.5 1.9 0.43
BAL (3 yrs) 0 0 13.50 4 0 4 0 0 1 8.0 22 16 12 0 4 1 0 0 2 51 30 4.29 3.250 24.8 0.0 4.5 1.1 0.25
CLV (1 yr) 0 0 0.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 2 3 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 7 21.92 4.000 18.0 9.0 18.0 0.0 0.00
CIN (1 yr) 0 0 5.40 1 0 1 0 0 0 5.0 9 6 3 0 1 2 0 1 26 66 3.05 2.000 16.2 0.0 1.8 3.6 2.00
AA (4 yrs) 0 0 10.38 5 0 5 0 0 1 13.0 31 22 15 0 5 3 0 0 3 77 37 3.81 2.769 21.5 0.0 3.5 2.1 0.60
NL (1 yr) 0 0 0.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 2 3 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 7 21.92 4.000 18.0 9.0 18.0 0.0 0.00
Hold your mouse over the values in the Saves, ERA, or FIP columns for additional information.

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1883 24 CIN AA 5.0 1 0 6 10.80 5.58 0.74 0.00 99.0 4.79 -3 -0.2 1.0 -0.0 -0.2 -3 .271 .499 $1,200
1885 26 BAL AA 3.0 2 0 3 9.00 5.57 -0.50 0.00 100.0 6.07 -1 -0.1 1.0 -0.0 -0.1 -1 .458 .499
1886 27 BAL AA 4.0 1 0 12 27.00 5.85 -0.17 0.00 99.0 5.96 -9 -0.4 1.0 -0.0 -0.4 -9 .093 .497
1887 28 BAL AA 1.0 1 0 1 9.00 6.53 -0.23 0.00 95.0 6.42 -0 -0.0 1.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0 .479 .500
1890 31 CLV NL 1.0 1 0 3 27.00 5.71 0.04 0.00 97.0 5.51 -2 -0.2 1.0 -0.0 -0.2 -2 .323 .499
5 Seasons 14.0 6 0 25 16.07 5.73 0.09 0.00 98.8 5.56 -16 -0.9 1.0 -0.0 -0.8 -15 .347 .499 $1,200
BAL (3 yrs) 8.0 4 0 16 18.00 5.83 -0.30 0.00 98.9 6.06 -11 -0.5 1.0 -0.0 -0.5 -10 .372 .499
CLV (1 yr) 1.0 1 0 3 27.00 5.71 0.04 0.00 97.0 5.51 -2 -0.2 1.0 -0.0 -0.2 -2 .323 .499
CIN (1 yr) 5.0 1 0 6 10.80 5.58 0.74 0.00 99.0 4.79 -3 -0.2 1.0 -0.0 -0.2 -3 .271 .499 $1,200

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
1880 CIN NL 21 OF 22 46 38 4 4 1 .913 1.91 .855 1.85 14-8-0
1880 CIN NL 21 3B 1 3 2 0 1 0 .667 2.00 .857 3.50
1880 CIN NL 21 C 1 2 2 0 0 0 1.000 2.00 .895 6.90 0 0 0
1880 CIN NL 21 SS 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 4.40
1882 CIN AA 23 OF 80 213 188 9 16 2 .925 2.46 .848 1.83 80-0-0
1883 CIN AA 24 OF 94 213 171 11 31 1 .854 1.94 .851 1.80 82-0-12
1883 CIN AA 24 3B 3 12 4 6 2 0 .833 3.33 .840 3.33
1883 CIN AA 24 P 1 5.0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 2.34 2.30
1884 BAL AA 25 3B 97 340 118 168 54 10 .841 2.95 .848 2.98
1884 BAL AA 25 OF 9 28 16 8 4 1 .857 2.67 .847 1.64 0-2-7
1884 BAL AA 25 2B 1 4 4 0 0 0 1.000 4.00 .902 6.00
1885 BAL AA 26 OF 107 264 229 14 21 2 .920 2.27 .879 1.87 105-2-0
1885 BAL AA 26 3B 2 7 2 2 3 0 .571 2.00 .860 3.00
1885 BAL AA 26 P 2 3.0 1 1 0 0 0 1.000 3.00 0.50 .880 1.80 1.90
1885 BAL AA 26 SS 2 6 2 4 0 0 1.000 3.00 .878 4.70
1885 BAL AA 26 1B 1 12 11 1 0 0 1.000 12.00 .966 10.60
1886 BAL AA 27 OF 95 220 186 12 22 4 .900 2.08 .877 1.79 95-0-0
1886 BAL AA 27 2B 32 184 84 86 14 9 .924 5.31 .908 6.07
1886 BAL AA 27 3B 11 37 18 16 3 0 .919 3.09 .849 3.18
1886 BAL AA 27 SS 3 16 2 9 5 1 .688 3.67 .854 4.57
1886 BAL AA 27 P 1 4.0 2 0 1 1 0 .500 2.25 1.00 .885 2.02 2.00
1887 BAL AA 28 OF 110 224 187 15 22 4 .902 1.84 .898 2.04 110-0-0
1887 BAL AA 28 2B 13 94 35 48 11 4 .883 6.38 .906 6.04
1887 BAL AA 28 3B 10 42 14 18 10 2 .762 3.20 .850 3.34
1887 BAL AA 28 SS 2 5 1 3 1 0 .800 2.00 .858 4.50
1887 BAL AA 28 P 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 2.70 2.20
1888 BAL AA 29 OF 44 70 54 7 9 1 .871 1.39 .907 1.83 30-0-14
1888 BAL AA 29 SS 34 171 53 98 20 12 .883 4.44 .863 4.61
1888 BAL AA 29 2B 2 7 2 4 1 0 .857 3.00 .916 5.65
1888 BAL AA 29 1B 1 6 6 0 0 0 1.000 6.00 .977 10.60
1889 BAL AA 30 OF 105 211 172 24 15 7 .929 1.87 .903 2.00 4-3-99
1889 BAL AA 30 SS 1 3 1 2 0 0 1.000 3.00 .873 5.10
1890 TOT MLB 31 OF 47 102 84 5 13 3 .873 1.89 .916 1.84 47-0-0
1890 CLV NL 31 OF 9 19 15 0 4 0 .789 1.67 .914 1.91 9-0-0
1890 CLV NL 31 P 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 1.80 2.20
1890 BAL AA 31 OF 38 83 69 5 9 3 .892 1.95 .916 1.82 38-0-0
10 Seasons OF 713 1591 1325 109 157 26 .901 2.01 .879 1.88 567-15-132
6 Seasons 3B 124 441 158 210 73 12 .834 2.97 .848 3.04
4 Seasons 2B 48 289 125 138 26 13 .910 5.48 .907 6.04
6 Seasons SS 43 201 59 116 26 13 .871 4.07 .863 4.61
5 Seasons P 6 14.0 3 1 1 1 0 .667 1.29 0.33 .883 2.12 2.08
2 Seasons 1B 2 18 17 1 0 0 1.000 9.00 .969 10.60
1 Season C 1 2 2 0 0 0 1.000 2.00 .895 6.90 0 0 0
10 Seasons TOT 937 14.0 2545 1687 575 283 64 .889 1.29 2.41 .876 2.12 2.40 567-15-132 0 0 0
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
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Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

WAR Position Playerss c a p y
1882 AA  2.3 (7th)

Batting Average s c a p y
1882 AA  .288 (9th)

On-Base% s c a p y
1882 AA  .333 (5th)

Slugging % s c a p y
1882 AA  .364 (10th)

On-Base Plus Slugging s c a p y
1882 AA  .698 (8th)

Games Played s c a p y
1882 AA  80 (1st)
1883 AA  97 (6th)
1886 AA  139 (5th)

At Bats s c a p y
1882 AA  354 (1st)
1883 AA  413 (10th)
1884 AA  479 (4th)
1885 AA  471 (9th)

Plate Appearances s c a p y
1882 AA  378 (1st)
1884 AA  495 (7th)
1885 AA  498 (7th)

Runs Scored s c a p y
1882 AA  82 (2nd)
1885 AA  84 (10th)

Hits s c a p y
1882 AA  102 (4th)

Total Bases s c a p y
1882 AA  129 (6th)

Doubles s c a p y
1885 AA  23 (5th)

Triples s c a p y
1882 AA  6 (9th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1883 AA  3 (8th)

Runs Batted In s c a p y
1882 AA  29 (8th)
1883 AA  52 (8th)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1882 AA  24 (3rd)
1887 AA  63 (9th)

Singles s c a p y
1882 AA  83 (4th)
1883 AA  100 (5th)
1884 AA  104 (9th)

Adjusted OPS+ s c a p y
1882 AA  129 (8th)

Runs Created s c a p y
1882 AA  43 (4th)

Adj. Batting Runs s c a p y
1882 AA  12 (8th)

Adj. Batting Wins s c a p y
1882 AA  1.3 (8th)

Extra Base Hits s c a p y
1882 AA  19 (10th)

Times On Base s c a p y
1882 AA  126 (4th)

Offensive Win % s c a p y
1882 AA  .655 (8th)

Outs Made s c a p y
1882 AA  252 (2nd)
1884 AA  350 (5th)
1885 AA  353 (2nd)
1886 AA  443 (1st)

Saves s c a p y
1885 AA  1 (2nd)

Games Finished s c a p y
1885 AA  2 (6th)
1886 AA  1 (9th)

Assists as 3B s c a p y
1884 AA  168 (5th)

Errors Committed as 3B s c a p y
1884 AA  54 (2nd)

Def. Games as OF s c a p y
1882 AA  80 (1st)
1883 AA  94 (5th)

Putouts as OF s c a p y
1882 AA  188 (1st)
1883 AA  171 (4th)
1885 AA  229 (2nd)

Errors Committed as OF s c a p y
Career  157 (59th)

Double Plays Turned as OF s c a p y
1882 AA  2 (3rd)

Range Factor/Game as OF s c a p y
1882 AA  2.46 (1st)
1885 AA  2.27 (2nd)
1886 AA  2.08 (4th)

Fielding % as OF s c a p y
1882 AA  .925 (1st)
1885 AA  .920 (3rd)
1886 AA  .900 (5th)
1889 AA  .929 (4th)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Black InkBatting - 2 (619), Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray InkBatting - 42 (604), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Pitching - 3 (2178), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 3 (2613), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Left Field (301st), 3.5 career WAR/6.3 7yr-peak WAR/4.9 JAWS
Average HOF LF (out of 19) = 65.1 career WAR/41.5 7yr-peak WAR/53.3 JAWS

Transactions

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Salaries

Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses
Year Age Team Salary ServTm(OpnDay) Sources Notes/Other Sources
1883 24 Cincinnati Red Stockings $1,200 ? 10/22/83 Sporting Life
1884 25 Baltimore Orioles $1,800 ? 10/22/1883 Sporting Life
Career to date (may be incomplete)$3,000
Primary salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Additional 1915-1969 salaries researched via Baseball Hall of Fame contract archives by Dr. Michael Haupert of UW-LaCrosse.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.
Salaries converted to alternate years using Consumer Price Index (CPI) data courtesy of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Board.

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