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Jimmy Say

James I. Say

Positions: Third Baseman and Shortstop
Bats: Unknown, Throws: Unknown

Born: 1862 in Baltimore, MD (All Transactions)
Debut: July 22, 1882 (Age 20)
Teams (by GP): Athletics/Quicksteps/Blues/Cowboys/Eclipse 1882-1887

Final Game: September 6, 1887 (Age 25)
Died: June 23, 1894 in Baltimore, MD
Buried: Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
Relatives: Brother of Lou Say
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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1882 20 TOT AA 23 122 86 13 18 2 0 1 1 .209 .218 .267 .486 57 23 6/5
1882 20 PHA AA 12 83 48 8 9 1 0 0 0 .188 .188 .208 .396 28 10 6
1882 20 LOU AA 1 4 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500 73 1 /5
1882 20 PHA AA 10 35 34 4 8 1 0 1 1 .235 .257 .353 .610 96 12 6
1884 22 TOT UA 18 68 67 3 15 1 2 0 1 .224 .235 .299 .534 77 20 5
1884 22 WIL UA 16 60 59 3 13 1 2 0 1 .220 .233 .305 .538 77 18 5
1884 22 KCC UA 2 8 8 0 2 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500 77 2 /5
1887 25 CLE AA 16 65 64 9 24 5 3 0 12 0 1 9 .375 .385 .547 .931 160 35 0 5
3 Yrs 57 255 217 25 57 8 5 1 12 0 3 9 .263 .273 .359 .632 96 78 0
162 Game Avg. 162 725 617 71 162 23 14 3 34 9 .263 .273 .359 .632 96 222
PHA (1 yr) 22 118 82 12 17 2 0 1 1 .207 .217 .268 .485 56 22
LOU (1 yr) 1 4 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500 73 1
CLE (1 yr) 16 65 64 9 24 5 3 0 12 0 1 9 .375 .385 .547 .931 160 35 0
KCC (1 yr) 2 8 8 0 2 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500 77 2
WIL (1 yr) 16 60 59 3 13 1 2 0 1 .220 .233 .305 .538 77 18
AA (2 yrs) 39 187 150 22 42 7 3 1 12 0 2 9 .280 .289 .387 .676 104 58 0
UA (1 yr) 18 68 67 3 15 1 2 0 1 .224 .235 .299 .534 77 20

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1882 20 PHA AA 22 83 -4 0 0 2 1 -1 -0.1 2 1 0.1 .496 .499 -0.1 0.3 -1 6
1882 20 LOU AA 1 4 -0 0 0 -1 0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .406 .499 0.0 -0.1 -0 /5
1884 22 WIL UA 16 60 -2 0 0 -4 0 -5 -0.4 0 -5 -0.4 .471 .497 -0.1 -0.3 -1 5
1884 22 KCC UA 2 8 -0 0 0 -1 0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .456 .499 0.0 -0.1 0 /5
1887 25 CLE AA 16 65 5 -0 0 -4 1 1 0.1 1 3 0.3 .506 .501 0.6 -0.2 7 5
3 Seasons 57 220 -1 -0 0 -8 2 -7 -0.6 3 -4 -0.2 .489 .499 0.4 -0.3 4
LOU (1 yr) 1 4 -0 0 0 -1 0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .406 .499 0.0 -0.1 -0
PHA (1 yr) 22 83 -4 0 0 2 1 -1 -0.1 2 1 0.1 .496 .499 -0.1 0.3 -1
CLE (1 yr) 16 65 5 -0 0 -4 1 1 0.1 1 3 0.3 .506 .501 0.6 -0.2 7
KCC (1 yr) 2 8 -0 0 0 -1 0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .456 .499 0.0 -0.1 0
WIL (1 yr) 16 60 -2 0 0 -4 0 -5 -0.4 0 -5 -0.4 .471 .497 -0.1 -0.3 -1

Standard Fielding

More Stats

Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG Awards
1882 TOT AA 20 SS 22 121 31 76 14 10 .884 4.86 .859 4.91
1882 PHA AA 20 SS 12 71 21 42 8 7 .887 5.25 .859 4.91
1882 LOU AA 20 3B 1 3 1 0 2 0 .333 1.00 .800 3.70
1882 PHA AA 20 SS 10 50 10 34 6 3 .880 4.40 .859 4.91
1884 TOT UA 22 3B 18 50 12 22 16 2 .680 1.89 .777 3.02
1884 WIL UA 22 3B 16 45 12 21 12 2 .733 2.06 .777 3.02
1884 KCC UA 22 3B 2 5 0 1 4 0 .200 0.50 .776 3.00
1887 CLE AA 25 3B 16 63 19 26 18 3 .714 2.81 .850 3.34
3 Seasons 3B 35 116 32 48 36 5 .690 2.29 .817 3.18
1 Season SS 22 121 31 76 14 10 .884 4.86 .859 4.91
3 Seasons TOT 57 237 63 124 50 15 .789 3.28 .839 3.85
Note: Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1945 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1945 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1945 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1916 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1945 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1916) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1945 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Double Plays Turned as SS s c a p y
1882 AA  10 (5th)

Youngest s c a p y
1882 AA  born 1862-00-00 (8th)

                           

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