John Rocker

John Loy Rocker

Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Left
Height: 6' 4", Weight: 210 lb.

Born: October 17, 1974 in Statesboro, GA
High School: First Presbyterian Day School (Macon, GA)
Drafted
by the Atlanta Braves in the 18th round of the 1993 amateur draft.
Signed August 23, 1993. (All Transactions)
Debut: May 5, 1998
Teams (by GP): Braves/Indians/Rangers/DevilRays 1998-2003
Agents: Randy Hendricks,Alan Hendricks [*]
Final Game: May 14, 2003
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Standard Pitching

Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
1998 23 ATL NL 1 3 .250 2.13 47 0 16 0 0 2 38.0 22 10 9 4 22 4 42 3 0 6 156 197 1.158 5.2 0.9 5.2 9.9 1.91
1999 24 ATL NL 4 5 .444 2.49 74 0 61 0 0 38 72.1 47 24 20 5 37 4 104 1 0 7 301 181 1.161 5.8 0.6 4.6 12.9 2.81
2000 25 ATL NL 1 2 .333 2.89 59 0 41 0 0 24 53.0 42 25 17 5 48 4 77 2 2 5 251 160 1.698 7.1 0.8 8.2 13.1 1.60
2001 26 TOT MLB 5 9 .357 4.32 68 0 48 0 0 23 66.2 58 36 32 4 41 4 79 5 2 11 300 104 1.485 7.8 0.5 5.5 10.7 1.93
2001 26 ATL NL 2 2 .500 3.09 30 0 28 0 0 19 32.0 25 13 11 2 16 1 36 2 0 5 135 145 1.281 7.0 0.6 4.5 10.1 2.25
2001 26 CLE AL 3 7 .300 5.45 38 0 20 0 0 4 34.2 33 23 21 2 25 3 43 3 2 6 165 83 1.673 8.6 0.5 6.5 11.2 1.72
2002 27 TEX AL 2 3 .400 6.66 30 0 10 0 0 1 24.1 29 19 18 5 13 1 30 0 0 0 114 72 1.726 10.7 1.8 4.8 11.1 2.31
2003 28 TBD AL 0 0 9.00 2 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 2 1 1 0 3 0 0 1 0 0 8 66 5.000 18.0 0.0 27.0 0.0 0.00
6 Yrs 13 22 .371 3.42 280 0 176 0 0 88 255.1 200 115 97 23 164 17 332 12 4 29 1130 132 1.426 7.0 0.8 5.8 11.7 2.02
162 Game Avg. 3 5 .371 3.42 68 0 43 0 0 21 62 49 28 24 6 40 4 81 3 1 7 274 132 1.426 7.0 0.8 5.8 11.7 2.02
ATL (4 yrs) 8 12 .400 2.63 210 0 146 0 0 83 195.1 136 72 57 16 123 13 259 8 2 23 843 170 1.326 6.3 0.7 5.7 11.9 2.11
TBD (1 yr) 0 0 9.00 2 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 2 1 1 0 3 0 0 1 0 0 8 66 5.000 18.0 0.0 27.0 0.0 0.00
TEX (1 yr) 2 3 .400 6.66 30 0 10 0 0 1 24.1 29 19 18 5 13 1 30 0 0 0 114 72 1.726 10.7 1.8 4.8 11.1 2.31
CLE (1 yr) 3 7 .300 5.45 38 0 20 0 0 4 34.2 33 23 21 2 25 3 43 3 2 6 165 83 1.673 8.6 0.5 6.5 11.2 1.72
NL (4 yrs) 8 12 .400 2.63 210 0 146 0 0 83 195.1 136 72 57 16 123 13 259 8 2 23 843 170 1.326 6.3 0.7 5.7 11.9 2.11
AL (3 yrs) 5 10 .333 6.00 70 0 30 0 0 5 60.0 64 43 40 7 41 4 73 4 2 6 287 78 1.750 9.6 1.1 6.2 11.0 1.78

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.1): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1998 23 ATL NL 38.0 47 0 10 2.37 4.92 0.42 -0.38 97.3 4.02 7 0.7 1.5 0.1 1.1 11 .515 .504 $170,000
1999 24 ATL NL 72.1 74 0 24 2.99 5.10 0.19 -0.38 98.4 4.45 11 1.1 1.9 0.3 2.0 19 .515 .507 $217,500
2000 25 ATL NL 53.0 59 0 25 4.25 5.12 0.17 -0.39 99.5 4.55 2 0.2 1.4 -0.1 0.5 7 .503 .501 $290,000
2001 26 ATL NL 32.0 30 0 13 3.66 4.73 0.31 -0.35 101.7 4.14 2 0.2 2.0 0.0 0.4 5 .506 .501 $1,900,000
2001 26 CLE AL 34.2 38 0 23 5.97 5.06 -0.27 -0.38 102.1 5.05 -4 -0.4 1.5 -0.2 -0.2 1 .491 .498 $
2002 27 TEX AL 24.1 30 0 19 7.03 4.91 -0.13 -0.37 106.4 4.96 -6 -0.6 1.7 -0.2 -0.6 -3 .481 .497 $2,500,000
2003 28 TBD AL 1.0 2 0 1 9.00 6.73 0.17 -0.50 104.5 6.33 -0 -0.0 .6 0.0 0.0 -0 .486 .500 $
6 Seasons 255.1 280 0 115 4.05 5.01 0.14 -0.38 100.2 4.50 12 1.2 1.6 -0.0 3.2 40 .504 .501 $5,077,500
ATL (4 yrs) 195.1 210 0 72 3.32 5.01 0.25 -0.38 99.0 4.34 22 2.2 1.7 0.4 4.0 42 .510 .503 $2,577,500
TBD (1 yr) 1.0 2 0 1 9.00 6.73 0.17 -0.50 104.5 6.33 -0 -0.0 .6 0.0 0.0 -0 .486 .500 $
TEX (1 yr) 24.1 30 0 19 7.03 4.91 -0.13 -0.37 106.4 4.96 -6 -0.6 1.7 -0.2 -0.6 -3 .481 .497 $2,500,000
CLE (1 yr) 34.2 38 0 23 5.97 5.06 -0.27 -0.38 102.1 5.05 -4 -0.4 1.5 -0.2 -0.2 1 .491 .498 $

Postseason Pitching

Year Age Tm Lg Series Rslt Opp W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
1998 23 ATL NL NLDS W CHC 0 0 0.00 2 0 0 0 0 0 1.1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 5 0.750 6.8 0.0 0.0 13.5
1998 23 ATL NL NLCS L SDP 1 0 1.000 0.00 6 0 0 0 0 0 4.2 3 0 0 0 1 0 5 0 0 0 17 0.857 5.8 0.0 1.9 9.6 5.00
1999 24 ATL NL NLDS W HOU 1 0 1.000 0.00 2 0 1 0 0 1 3.1 0 0 0 0 2 0 5 0 0 1 12 0.600 0.0 0.0 5.4 13.5 2.50
1999 24 ATL NL NLCS W NYM 0 0 0.00 6 0 3 0 0 2 6.2 3 2 0 0 2 1 9 0 0 1 27 0.750 4.1 0.0 2.7 12.2 4.50
1999 24 ATL NL WS L NYY 0 0 0.00 2 0 0 0 0 0 3.0 2 0 0 0 2 1 4 0 0 0 12 1.333 6.0 0.0 6.0 12.0 2.00
2000 25 ATL NL NLDS L STL 0 0 0.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 1.500 0.0 0.0 13.5 0.0 0.00
2001 26 CLE AL ALDS L SEA 0 0 0.00 1 0 1 0 0 0 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 1.000 9.0 0.0 0.0 9.0
4 Yrs (7 Series) 2 0 1.000 0.00 20 0 5 0 0 3 20.2 10 2 0 0 8 2 26 0 0 2 80 0.871 4.4 0.0 3.5 11.3 3.25
1 ALDS 0 0 0.00 1 0 1 0 0 0 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 1.000 9.0 0.0 0.0 9.0
3 NLDS 1 0 1.000 0.00 5 0 1 0 0 1 5.1 1 0 0 0 3 0 7 0 0 1 20 0.750 1.7 0.0 5.1 11.8 2.33
2 NLCS 1 0 1.000 0.00 12 0 3 0 0 2 11.1 6 2 0 0 3 1 14 0 0 1 44 0.794 4.8 0.0 2.4 11.1 4.67
1 WS 0 0 0.00 2 0 0 0 0 0 3.0 2 0 0 0 2 1 4 0 0 0 12 1.333 6.0 0.0 6.0 12.0 2.00

Batting Against -- Pitching*

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE
1998 23 ATL NL 47 156 128 10 22 2 1 4 2 0 22 42 .172 .307 .297 .604 .220 38 5 3 3 0 4 1
1999 24 ATL NL 74 301 261 24 47 8 0 5 3 1 37 104 .180 .284 .268 .552 .276 70 2 1 2 0 4 2
2000 25 ATL NL 59 251 200 25 42 3 1 5 6 0 48 77 .210 .368 .310 .678 .314 62 3 2 1 0 4 3
2001 26 ATL NL 30 135 116 13 25 2 1 2 0 0 16 36 .216 .319 .302 .620 .291 35 3 2 0 1 1 0
2001 26 CLE AL 38 165 132 23 33 5 0 2 7 1 25 43 .250 .379 .333 .712 .352 44 1 3 4 1 3 3
2001 26 TOT MLB 68 300 248 36 58 7 1 4 7 1 41 79 .234 .351 .319 .670 .323 79 4 5 4 2 4 3
2002 27 TEX AL 30 114 97 19 29 4 1 5 1 1 13 30 .299 .372 .515 .887 .369 50 2 0 1 3 1 1
2003 28 TBD AL 2 8 4 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 .500 .750 .500 1.250 .500 2 1 1 0 0 0 0
6 Yrs 280 1130 938 115 200 24 4 23 19 3 164 332 .213 .336 .321 .657 .301 301 17 12 11 5 17 10
162 Game Avg. 68 274 228 28 49 6 1 6 5 1 40 81 .213 .336 .321 .657 .301 73 4 3 3 1 4 2
MLB Averages .266 .337 .426 .763 .297

Win Probability

Year Age Tm Lg PtchR PitchW Plays WPA WPA+ WPA- aLI WPA/LI Clutch RE24 REW boLI RE24/boLI LevHi LevMd LevLo
1998 23 ATL NL 8.8 0.9 161 0.6 3.6 -3.0 1.18 0.6 -0.1 9.8 1.0 1.18 6.4 23 5 17
1999 24 ATL NL 15.5 1.5 318 1.7 10.8 -9.1 1.96 1.3 -0.4 12.7 1.2 1.96 16.9 44 14 15
2000 25 ATL NL 7.4 0.7 271 -0.1 6.6 -6.7 1.54 -0.2 0.1 3.2 0.3 1.54 2.4 29 13 17
2001 26 TOT MLB 0.8 0.1 324 -1.1 8.9 -10.0 1.81 -0.0 -0.5 1.6 0.2 1.81 1.9 39 12 16
2001 26 ATL NL 4.4 0.4 145 0.6 4.7 -4.1 1.90 0.2 0.1 6.0 0.6 1.90 4.3 19 6 5
2001 26 CLE AL -3.6 -0.3 179 -1.6 4.2 -5.8 1.73 -0.2 -0.7 -4.4 -0.4 1.73 -2.3 20 6 11
2002 27 TEX AL -4.4 -0.4 118 -1.3 3.1 -4.4 1.73 -0.5 -0.2 -4.8 -0.4 1.73 -3.9 17 7 6
2003 28 TBD AL -0.3 -0.0 8 -0.1 0.0 -0.1 .55 -0.2 -0.0 -0.8 -0.1 0.55 -1.4 0 1 1
6 Yrs 27.8 2.7 1200 -0.2 33.0 -33.3 1.69 1.0 -1.1 21.6 2.2 1.69 22.2 152 52 72

Reliever Pitching*

Year Age Tm Lg G GR GF Wgr Lgr SVOpp SV BSv SV% SVSit Hold IR IS IS% 1stIP aLI LevHi LevMd LevLo Ahd Tie Bhd Runr Empt >3o <3o IPmult 0DR Out/GR Pit/GR
1998 23 ATL NL 47 47 16 1 3 4 2 2 50% 21 15 33 6 18% 8 1.181 23 5 17 25 5 17 20 27 5 21 5 12 2.4 13
1999 24 ATL NL 74 74 61 4 5 45 38 7 84% 45 0 27 10 37% 9 1.964 44 14 15 59 13 2 14 60 9 9 9 24 2.9 16
2000 25 ATL NL 59 59 41 1 2 27 24 3 89% 35 4 17 2 12% 9 1.545 29 13 17 46 5 8 11 48 8 15 8 13 2.7 19
2001 26 TOT MLB 68 68 48 5 9 30 23 7 77% 37 7 18 4 22% 1.807 39 12 16 48 11 9 11 57 8 8 8 19 2.9 18
2001 26 ATL NL 30 30 28 2 2 23 19 4 83% 23 0 14 3 21% 9 1.904 19 6 5 27 2 1 7 23 5 1 5 9 3.2 18
2001 26 CLE AL 38 38 20 3 7 7 4 3 57% 14 7 4 1 25% 8 1.728 20 6 11 21 9 8 4 34 3 7 3 10 2.7 18
2002 27 TEX AL 30 30 10 2 3 4 1 3 25% 15 10 18 4 22% 8 1.731 17 7 6 19 4 7 13 17 3 14 4 9 2.4 15
2003 28 TBD AL 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 7 .551 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 2 0 1 0 0 1.5 17
6 Yrs 280 280 176 13 22 110 88 22 80% 154 36 113 26 23% 1.688 152 52 72 198 38 44 69 211 33 68 34 77 2.7 17

Ratio Pitching*

Year Age Tm Lg PA Ptn% HR% SO% BB% XBH% X/H% GB/FB GO/AO IP% LD% HR/FB IF/FB DPopp DPs DP%
1998 23 ATL NL 156 40% 2.6% 26.9% 14.1% 4.5% 32% 1.07 1.81 53% 19% 10.3% 5% 31 5 16%
1999 24 ATL NL 301 20% 1.7% 34.6% 12.3% 4.3% 28% 0.74 0.85 51% 20% 6.4% 12% 55 2 4%
2000 25 ATL NL 251 21% 2.0% 30.7% 19.1% 3.6% 21% 0.48 0.58 47% 30% 7.0% 11% 56 3 5%
2001 26 TOT MLB 300 22% 1.3% 26.3% 13.7% 4.0% 21% 0.70 0.88 56% 25% 4.8% 15% 66 4 6%
2001 26 ATL NL 135 20% 1.5% 26.7% 11.9% 3.7% 20% 0.68 0.88 59% 26% 5.3% 19% 29 3 10%
2001 26 CLE AL 165 23% 1.2% 26.1% 15.2% 4.2% 21% 0.73 0.88 53% 23% 4.4% 12% 37 1 3%
2002 27 TEX AL 114 38% 4.4% 26.3% 11.4% 8.8% 35% 0.67 0.95 57% 32% 13.9% 8% 23 2 9%
2003 28 TBD AL 8 63% 0.0% 0.0% 37.5% 0.0% 0% 1.00 50% 25% 0.0% 0% 5 1 20%
6 Yrs 1130 25% 2.0% 29.4% 14.5% 4.5% 26% 0.70 0.93 52% 25% 7.4% 11% 236 17 7%
MLB Averages 46% 2.8% 16.7% 8.9% 8.0% 34% 0.77 1.07 70% 22% 8.2% 14% 11%

Pitch Summary -- Pitching*

Year Age Tm Lg PA Pit Pit/PA Str Str% L/Str S/Str F/Str I/Str AS/Str I/Bll AS/Pit Con 1st% 30% 30c 30s 02% 02c 02s 02h L/SO 3pK 4pW PAu Pitu Stru
1998 23 ATL NL 156 634 4.06 380 60% 29% 22% 26% 23% 71% 6% 43% 69% 57% 8% 12 5 24% 37 21 2 36% 4 3 0 0 0
1999 24 ATL NL 302 1212 4.01 768 63% 29% 25% 26% 21% 71% 3% 45% 65% 64% 7% 20 8 32% 96 53 3 25% 14 9 -1 0 0
2000 25 ATL NL 253 1100 4.35 637 58% 37% 22% 21% 19% 63% 3% 36% 64% 50% 9% 24 11 30% 75 45 4 26% 13 11 -2 0 0
2001 26 TOT MLB 300 1214 4.05 741 61% 31% 21% 25% 24% 69% 3% 42% 70% 55% 8% 24 13 29% 86 55 10 18% 17 7 0 0 0
2001 26 ATL NL 135 533 3.95 337 63% 32% 23% 22% 24% 68% 2% 43% 67% 59% 8% 11 7 27% 37 26 5 14% 9 3 0 0 0
2001 26 CLE AL 165 681 4.13 404 59% 30% 19% 27% 23% 70% 4% 41% 72% 51% 8% 13 6 30% 49 29 5 21% 8 4 0 0 0
2002 27 TEX AL 114 436 3.82 281 64% 30% 21% 24% 25% 70% 3% 45% 70% 59% 4% 5 3 28% 32 21 3 37% 11 1 0 0 0
2003 28 TBD AL 8 34 4.25 14 41% 43% 14% 14% 29% 57% 0% 24% 75% 25% 0% 0 0 13% 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6 Yrs 1133 4630 4.09 2821 61% 31% 22% 24% 22% 69% 3% 42% 67% 57% 8% 85 40 29% 327 195 22 26% 59 31 -3 0 0
MLB Averages 3.73 62% 27% 15% 27% 32% 73% 2% 45% 80% 57% 5% 20% 27%

Baserunning & Situational Stats*

Hits Home Runs Advances Baserunning
Year Age Tm Lg PA H Inf Bnt All GS GSo vRH vLH Hm Rd <2,3B Scr SO % ROE WP PB SBO SB CS SB% SB2 CS2 SB3 CS3 SBH CSH PO PCS BT PAu
1998 23 ATL NL 156 22 3 0 4 0 2 2 2 1 3 5 1 4 20% 1 6 0 75 2 0 100% 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0
1999 24 ATL NL 301 47 1 1 5 0 15 3 2 1 4 13 6 2 46% 2 7 2 116 3 1 75% 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 10 0
2000 25 ATL NL 251 42 4 0 5 0 9 3 2 2 3 12 2 5 17% 3 5 0 105 6 0 100% 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 11 0
2001 26 TOT MLB 300 58 9 0 4 0 8 3 1 3 1 21 9 5 43% 3 11 1 125 7 1 88% 5 0 2 1 0 0 2 2 22 0
2001 26 ATL NL 135 25 4 0 2 0 3 1 1 2 0 11 5 3 45% 0 5 1 56 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 0
2001 26 CLE AL 165 33 5 0 2 0 5 2 0 1 1 10 4 2 40% 3 6 0 69 7 1 88% 5 0 2 1 0 0 2 2 11 0
2002 27 TEX AL 114 29 3 0 5 0 4 2 3 2 3 11 5 2 45% 1 0 3 46 1 1 50% 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 8 0
2003 28 TBD AL 8 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 50% 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6 Yrs 1130 200 20 1 23 0 39 13 10 9 14 64 24 18 38% 10 29 6 472 19 3 86% 14 1 5 2 0 0 2 2 56 0
MLB Averages 54% 69%

Cumulative Pitching

Year Age W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB ERA+
1998 23 1 3 .250 2.13 47 0 16 0 0 2 38.0 22 10 9 4 22 4 42 3 0 6 156 197 1.158 5.2 0.9 5.2 9.9 1.91 197
1999 24 5 8 .385 2.37 121 0 77 0 0 40 110.1 69 34 29 9 59 8 146 4 0 13 457 186 1.160 5.6 0.7 4.8 11.9 2.47 186
2000 25 6 10 .375 2.53 180 0 118 0 0 64 163.1 111 59 46 14 107 12 223 6 2 18 708 176 1.335 6.1 0.8 5.9 12.3 2.08 176
2001 26 11 19 .367 3.05 248 0 166 0 0 87 230.0 169 95 78 18 148 16 302 11 4 29 1008 147 1.378 6.6 0.7 5.8 11.8 2.04 147
2002 27 13 22 .371 3.40 278 0 176 0 0 88 254.1 198 114 96 23 161 17 332 11 4 29 1122 133 1.412 7.0 0.8 5.7 11.7 2.06 133
2003 28 13 22 .371 3.42 280 0 176 0 0 88 255.1 200 115 97 23 164 17 332 12 4 29 1130 132 1.426 7.0 0.8 5.8 11.7 2.02 132

Neutralized Pitching

Change to: Default / 750 Runs / 1968 Dodgers / 2000 Rockies or

All seasons are converted to 162-game seasons &
average team scoring of 716 total runs (4.42 R/G)
How this works
Year Age W L W-L% ERA IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WHIP H/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB HR/9 Gact
1998 23 3 1 .750 2.19 37.0 21 10 9 4 21 41 3 1.135 5.1 5.1 10.0 1.95 1.0 47
1999 24 6 2 .750 2.19 74.0 44 20 18 5 35 106 1 1.068 5.4 4.3 12.9 3.03 0.6 74
2000 25 4 2 .667 2.50 54.0 40 17 15 5 46 79 2 1.593 6.7 7.7 13.2 1.72 0.8 59
2001 26 3 4 .429 4.09 66.0 56 33 30 4 40 79 5 1.455 7.6 5.5 10.8 1.98 0.5 68
2002 27 1 1 .500 6.38 24.0 28 19 17 5 13 30 0 1.708 10.5 4.9 11.3 2.31 1.9 30
2003 28 0 0 9.00 1.0 2 1 1 0 3 0 1 5.000 18.0 27.0 0.0 0.00 0.0 2
6 Yrs 17 10 .630 3.16 256.0 191 100 90 23 158 335 12 1.363 6.7 11.8 2.12 0.8 280

* Many Detailed Statistics are based on play-by-play accounts accumulated by RetroSheet. These totals may be incomplete (3.6% of all plays from 1918 to 1973 are missing or have incomplete accounts, click link for year and team summary) for some players prior to 1974 and even complete seasons may not match the official totals due to errors in both the official totals and the play-by-play accounts. Pre-1954 seasons have a substantial numbers of games missing play-by-play accounts and should be viewed as essentially incomplete.

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Games Played s c a p y
1999 NL  74 (7th)

Saves s c a p y
1999 NL  38 (4th)
2000 NL  24 (9th)
Career  88 (153rd)

Games Finished s c a p y
1999 NL  61 (5th)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkPitching - 7 (1687), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame MonitorPitching - 12 (869), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

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