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David Palmer

David William Palmer

Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 1", Weight: 195 lb.

Born: August 19, 1957 in Glens Falls, NY
High School: Glens Falls HS (Glens Falls, NY)
Drafted
by the Montreal Expos in the 21st round of the 1976 amateur draft. (All Transactions)
Debut: September 9, 1978 (Age 21.021, 11,720th in MLB history)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1979 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Expos/Braves/Phillies/Tigers 1978-1989
Agents: Dick Moss [*]
Final Game: June 30, 1989 (Age 31.315)
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Fine Details  · Last updated Nov 23, 2014 2:17AM
All-Time Rank (among pitchers): #1093. Doug Brocail… #1094. Ryan Franklin… #1095. Charlie Smith… #1096. DAVID PALMER… #1097. John Whitehead… #1098. Roger Wolff… #1099. Brian Fuentes… 

Standard Pitching

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Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards
1978 20 MON NL 0 1 .000 2.79 5 1 1 0 0 0 9.2 9 4 3 1 2 0 7 0 0 0 39 131 3.10 1.138 8.4 0.9 1.9 6.5 3.50
1979 21 MON NL 10 2 .833 2.64 36 11 13 2 1 2 122.2 110 41 36 10 30 7 72 2 0 2 502 139 3.40 1.141 8.1 0.7 2.2 5.3 2.40
1980 22 MON NL 8 6 .571 2.98 24 19 0 3 1 0 129.2 124 53 43 11 30 1 73 2 2 1 529 120 3.47 1.188 8.6 0.8 2.1 5.1 2.43
1982 24 MON NL 6 4 .600 3.18 13 13 0 1 0 0 73.2 60 34 26 3 36 2 46 2 1 6 312 115 3.55 1.303 7.3 0.4 4.4 5.6 1.28
1984 26 MON NL 7 3 .700 3.84 20 19 0 1 1 0 105.1 101 45 45 5 44 4 66 0 2 0 444 90 3.39 1.377 8.6 0.4 3.8 5.6 1.50
1985 27 MON NL 7 10 .412 3.71 24 23 0 0 0 0 135.2 128 60 56 5 67 5 106 3 0 9 588 92 3.15 1.437 8.5 0.3 4.4 7.0 1.58
1986 28 ATL NL 11 10 .524 3.65 35 35 0 2 0 0 209.2 181 98 85 17 102 8 170 5 0 9 889 108 3.73 1.350 7.8 0.7 4.4 7.3 1.67
1987 29 ATL NL 8 11 .421 4.90 28 28 0 0 0 0 152.1 169 94 83 17 64 4 111 7 0 5 687 89 4.26 1.530 10.0 1.0 3.8 6.6 1.73
1988 30 PHI NL 7 9 .438 4.47 22 22 0 1 1 0 129.0 129 67 64 8 48 5 85 0 0 2 551 80 3.37 1.372 9.0 0.6 3.3 5.9 1.77
1989 31 DET AL 0 3 .000 7.79 5 5 0 0 0 0 17.1 25 19 15 1 11 0 12 0 0 0 85 51 4.03 2.077 13.0 0.5 5.7 6.2 1.09
10 Yrs 64 59 .520 3.78 212 176 14 10 4 2 1085.0 1036 515 456 78 434 36 748 21 5 34 4626 99 3.58 1.355 8.6 0.6 3.6 6.2 1.72
162 Game Avg. 11 10 .520 3.78 37 31 2 2 1 0 190 182 90 80 14 76 6 131 4 1 6 811 99 3.58 1.355 8.6 0.6 3.6 6.2 1.72
MON (6 yrs) 38 26 .594 3.26 122 86 14 7 3 2 576.2 532 237 209 35 209 19 370 9 5 18 2414 109 3.37 1.285 8.3 0.5 3.3 5.8 1.77
ATL (2 yrs) 19 21 .475 4.18 63 63 0 2 0 0 362.0 350 192 168 34 166 12 281 12 0 14 1576 99 3.96 1.425 8.7 0.8 4.1 7.0 1.69
PHI (1 yr) 7 9 .438 4.47 22 22 0 1 1 0 129.0 129 67 64 8 48 5 85 0 0 2 551 80 3.37 1.372 9.0 0.6 3.3 5.9 1.77
DET (1 yr) 0 3 .000 7.79 5 5 0 0 0 0 17.1 25 19 15 1 11 0 12 0 0 0 85 51 4.03 2.077 13.0 0.5 5.7 6.2 1.09
NL (9 yrs) 64 56 .533 3.72 207 171 14 10 4 2 1067.2 1011 496 441 77 423 36 736 21 5 34 4541 101 3.57 1.343 8.5 0.6 3.6 6.2 1.74
AL (1 yr) 0 3 .000 7.79 5 5 0 0 0 0 17.1 25 19 15 1 11 0 12 0 0 0 85 51 4.03 2.077 13.0 0.5 5.7 6.2 1.09
Hold your mouse over the values in the Saves, ERA, or FIP columns for additional information.

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1978 20 MON NL 9.2 5 1 4 3.72 4.15 0.42 -0.14 101.8 3.65 -0 -0.0 .2 -0.0 0.1 1 .496 .500
1979 21 MON NL 122.2 36 11 41 3.01 4.13 0.18 -0.02 99.1 3.89 11 1.2 1.0 -0.1 2.2 22 .533 .507
1980 22 MON NL 129.2 24 19 53 3.68 4.08 -0.05 0.11 100.0 4.24 8 0.9 1.1 -0.1 2.0 19 .537 .505
1982 24 MON NL 73.2 13 13 34 4.15 4.13 0.02 0.14 100.5 4.28 0 0.0 -0.0 0.7 7 .502 .500
1984 26 MON NL 105.1 20 19 45 3.84 4.12 0.25 0.12 96.3 3.85 -1 -0.1 1.0 -0.1 0.8 9 .493 .499 $162,500
1985 27 MON NL 135.2 24 23 60 3.98 4.06 0.04 0.13 95.6 3.96 -1 -0.1 .2 -0.1 1.0 11 .494 .499 $375,000
1986 28 ATL NL 209.2 35 35 98 4.21 4.18 -0.28 0.15 105.2 4.84 14 1.5 -0.1 3.4 33 .544 .510 $390,000
1987 29 ATL NL 152.1 28 28 94 5.55 4.56 -0.26 0.17 105.8 5.27 -6 -0.6 -0.1 0.7 10 .478 .496 $725,000
1988 30 PHI NL 129.0 22 22 67 4.67 3.84 -0.34 0.13 103.2 4.45 -4 -0.4 -0.1 0.7 7 .480 .497 $675,000
1989 31 DET AL 17.1 5 5 19 9.87 4.36 -0.14 0.15 101.8 4.74 -10 -0.9 -0.0 -0.7 -8 .323 .495 $175,000
10 Seasons 1085.0 212 176 515 4.27 4.15 -0.08 0.12 101.3 4.42 10 1.4 .9 -0.6 10.9 111 .507 .502 $2,502,500
MON (6 yrs) 576.2 122 86 237 3.70 4.10 0.09 0.09 98.2 4.02 16 1.8 .9 -0.3 6.8 69 .515 .503 $537,500
ATL (2 yrs) 362.0 63 63 192 4.77 4.34 -0.27 0.16 105.5 5.02 8 0.9 -0.2 4.1 43 .515 .504 $1,115,000
PHI (1 yr) 129.0 22 22 67 4.67 3.84 -0.34 0.13 103.2 4.45 -4 -0.4 -0.1 0.7 7 .480 .497 $675,000
DET (1 yr) 17.1 5 5 19 9.87 4.36 -0.14 0.15 101.8 4.74 -10 -0.9 -0.0 -0.7 -8 .323 .495 $175,000

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1978 20 MON NL 5 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0 /1
1979 21 MON NL 36 36 31 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 15 .032 .063 .032 .095 -73 1 1 0 4 0 0 1
1980 22 MON NL 25 49 45 3 9 2 0 0 3 0 0 2 15 .200 .234 .244 .478 34 11 0 0 2 0 0 1
1982 24 MON NL 13 27 24 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 .042 .042 .042 .083 -77 1 0 0 3 0 0 1
1984 26 MON NL 20 39 33 2 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 12 .152 .152 .273 .424 19 9 0 0 6 0 0 1
1985 27 MON NL 24 41 36 1 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 .111 .111 .139 .250 -29 5 2 0 5 0 0 1
1986 28 ATL NL 35 77 66 3 12 3 0 1 6 0 0 1 17 .182 .194 .273 .467 25 18 1 0 10 0 0 1
1987 29 ATL NL 28 57 48 4 6 1 0 1 5 0 0 1 15 .125 .143 .208 .351 -10 10 1 0 8 0 0 1
1988 30 PHI NL 22 48 39 6 10 4 0 2 6 0 0 0 4 .256 .256 .513 .769 116 20 1 0 9 0 0 1
1989 31 DET AL 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 /1
10 Yrs 213 375 323 22 48 12 0 5 23 0 0 5 95 .149 .162 .232 .394 8 75 6 0 47 0 0
162 Game Avg. 162 285 246 17 37 9 0 4 17 0 0 4 72 .149 .162 .232 .394 8 57 5 0 36 0 0
MON (6 yrs) 123 193 170 9 20 4 0 1 6 0 0 3 59 .118 .133 .159 .292 -18 27 3 0 20 0 0
ATL (2 yrs) 63 134 114 7 18 4 0 2 11 0 0 2 32 .158 .172 .246 .418 10 28 2 0 18 0 0
PHI (1 yr) 22 48 39 6 10 4 0 2 6 0 0 0 4 .256 .256 .513 .769 116 20 1 0 9 0 0
DET (1 yr) 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
NL (9 yrs) 208 375 323 22 48 12 0 5 23 0 0 5 95 .149 .162 .232 .394 8 75 6 0 47 0 0
AL (1 yr) 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1978 20 MON NL 5 1 -0 0 0 0 0 -0 -0.0 0 -0 -0.0 .498 .500 -0.0 0.0 -0 /1
1979 21 MON NL 36 36 -7 -0 -0 0 5 -3 -0.3 0 -3 -0.3 .491 .498 -0.3 0.0 -3 1
1980 22 MON NL 25 49 -4 0 0 0 6 2 0.2 0 2 0.2 .507 .501 0.2 0.0 2 1
1982 24 MON NL 13 27 -5 0 0 0 3 -2 -0.2 0 -2 -0.2 .483 .499 -0.2 0.0 -2 1
1984 26 MON NL 20 39 -4 -0 0 0 5 0 0.1 0 0 0.1 .502 .500 0.0 0.0 0 $162,500 1
1985 27 MON NL 24 41 -7 -0 0 0 5 -2 -0.3 0 -2 -0.3 .489 .498 -0.3 0.0 -2 $375,000 1
1986 28 ATL NL 35 77 -7 -0 -0 0 10 2 0.2 0 2 0.2 .507 .502 0.2 0.0 2 $390,000 1
1987 29 ATL NL 28 57 -9 -1 0 0 8 -2 -0.2 0 -2 -0.2 .495 .499 -0.2 0.0 -2 $725,000 1
1988 30 PHI NL 22 48 1 0 0 0 6 7 0.8 0 7 0.8 .535 .505 0.8 0.0 7 $675,000 1
1989 31 DET AL 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 .501 .500 0.0 0.0 0 $175,000 /1
10 Seasons 213 375 -43 -2 1 0 47 2 0.3 0 2 0.3 .501 .500 0.2 0.1 2 $2,502,500
MON (6 yrs) 123 193 -28 -1 0 0 23 -5 -0.6 0 -5 -0.6 .495 .499 -0.6 0.1 -5 $537,500
ATL (2 yrs) 63 134 -16 -1 0 0 18 1 0.1 0 1 0.1 .502 .500 0.1 0.0 1 $1,115,000
PHI (1 yr) 22 48 1 0 0 0 6 7 0.8 0 7 0.8 .535 .505 0.8 0.0 7 $675,000
DET (1 yr) 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 .501 .500 0.0 0.0 0 $175,000

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
1978 MON NL 20 P 5 1 0 9.2 6 0 5 1 0 .833 4.66 1.00 .952 1.96 1.90 2 0 0% 32% 0
1979 MON NL 21 P 36 11 2 122.2 25 7 17 1 0 .960 1.76 0.67 .951 1.80 1.80 7 2 22% 34% 0
1980 MON NL 22 P 24 19 3 129.2 37 9 26 2 0 .946 2.43 1.46 .952 1.91 1.91 12 10 45% 31% 1
1982 MON NL 24 P 13 13 1 73.2 18 7 10 1 1 .944 2.08 1.31 .952 1.97 1.97 13 7 35% 32% 0
1984 MON NL 26 P 20 19 1 105.1 34 20 13 1 1 .971 2.82 1.65 .954 1.88 1.87 13 10 43% 31% 0
1985 MON NL 27 P 24 23 0 135.2 39 17 21 1 3 .974 2.52 1.58 .953 1.92 1.92 27 8 23% 30% 0
1986 ATL NL 28 P 35 35 2 209.2 51 18 33 0 3 1.000 2.19 1.46 .955 1.94 1.94 41 18 31% 32% 0
1987 ATL NL 29 P 28 28 0 152.1 35 9 25 1 2 .971 2.01 1.21 .955 1.91 1.90 30 4 12% 29% 0
1988 PHI NL 30 P 22 22 1 129.0 27 14 12 1 2 .963 1.81 1.18 .955 1.96 1.96 25 5 17% 29% 0
1989 DET AL 31 P 5 5 0 17.1 4 2 1 1 0 .750 1.56 0.60 .960 1.87 1.84 2 0 0% 32% 0
10 Seasons P 212 176 10 1085.0 276 103 163 10 12 .964 2.21 1.25 .954 1.91 1.90 172 64 27% 31% 1
10 Seasons TOT 212 176 10 1085.0 276 103 163 10 12 .964 2.21 1.25 .954 1.91 1.90 172 64 27% 31% 1
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
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Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
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Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Strikeouts per 9 IP s c a p y
1986 NL  7.297 (6th)
Career  6.205 (232nd)

Strikeouts s c a p y
1986 NL  170 (10th)

Games Started s c a p y
1986 NL  35 (7th)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1986 NL  102 (3rd)

Wild Pitches s c a p y
1985 NL  9 (7th)
1986 NL  9 (8th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1986 NL  5 (8th)
1987 NL  7 (7th)

Sacrifice Hits s c a p y
1986 NL  10 (10th)

Putouts as P s c a p y
1984 NL  20 (4th)

Fielding % as P s c a p y
1986 NL  1.000 (1st)

Youngest s c a p y
1978 NL  born 1957-08-19 (6th)

                           

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkPitching - 5 (1926), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame StandardsPitching - 7 (1164), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Starting Pitcher (812th), 11.2 career WAR/11.4 7yr-peak WAR/11.3 JAWS
Average HOF P (out of 59) = 73.4 career WAR/50.2 7yr-peak WAR/61.8 JAWS

Transactions

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Salaries

Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses
Year Age Team Salary ServTm(OpnDay) Sources Notes/Other Sources
1984 26 Montreal Expos $162,500 ? 1986 TSN Guide 25; T. Timmerman database
1985 27 Montreal Expos $375,000 ? 1986 TSN Guide 25; T. Timmerman database Arbitration win; $375,000 offer
1986 28 Atlanta Braves $390,000 ? 1986 USA Today survey
1987 29 Atlanta Braves $725,000 ? 1987 USA Today survey
1988 30 Philadelphia Phillies $675,000 ? USA Today, 4/1/88
1989 31 Detroit Tigers $175,000 ? Larry Grasso corrections
Career to date (may be incomplete)$2,502,500
Primary salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Additional 1915-1969 salaries researched via Baseball Hall of Fame contract archives by Dr. Michael Haupert of UW-LaCrosse.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.
Salaries converted to alternate years using Consumer Price Index (CPI) data courtesy of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Board.

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