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Vicente Palacios

Vicente (Diaz) Palacios

Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 3", Weight: 165 lb.

Born: July 19, 1963 in Manlio Fabio Altamirano, Veracruz, Mexico
High School: Veracruz (Veracruz, MX) (All Transactions)
Debut: September 4, 1987 (Age 24)
Teams (by GP): Pirates/Cardinals/Padres 1987-2000

Final Game: May 11, 2000 (Age 36)
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Year	Age	Tm	Lg	W	L	W-L%	ERA	G	GS	GF	CG	SHO	SV	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	BK	WP	BF	ERA+	WHIP	H/9	HR/9	BB/9	SO/9	SO/BB	Awards
1983		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1984	20	CHW-min	AA	1	2	.333	2.49	5	5	0	0	0	0	25.1	23	12	7	0	11	0	10	0	0	1			1.342	8.2	0.0	3.9	3.6	0.91	GLF · EL
1985	21	CHW-min	AA	1	1	.500	4.76	8	4	1	0	0	1	39.2	44	25	21	1	29	1	20	2	4	5			1.840	10.0	0.2	6.6	4.5	0.69	GLF · EL
1986		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1987	23	PIT-min	AAA	13	5	.722	2.58	27	26	0	7	5	0	185.0	140	63	53	10	85	1	148	5	6	5			1.216	6.8	0.5	4.1	7.2	1.74	VAN · PCL
1987	23	PIT	NL	2	1	.667	4.30	6	4	0	0	0	0	29.1	27	14	14	1	9	1	13	1	2	0	120	96	1.227	8.3	0.3	2.8	4.0	1.44
1988	24	PIT-min	AAA	3	0	1.000	1.99	5	5	0	1	1	0	31.2	26	7	7	0	5	0	23	1	1	2			0.979	7.4	0.0	1.4	6.5	4.60	BFL · AA
1988	24	PIT	NL	1	2	.333	6.66	7	3	0	0	0	0	24.1	28	18	18	3	15	1	15	0	3	2	113	52	1.767	10.4	1.1	5.5	5.5	1.00

1989	25	PIT-min	AAA	0	2	.000	7.20	2	2	0	0	0	0	10.0	9	8	8	2	8	0	8	1	1	1			1.700	8.1	1.8	7.2	7.2	1.00	BFL · AA
1990	26	PIT-min	AAA	13	7	.650	3.43	28	28	0	5	2	0	183.2	173	77	70	8	53	2	137	1	2	9			1.230	8.5	0.4	2.6	6.7	2.58	BFL · AA
1990	26	PIT	NL	0	0		0.00	7	0	4	0	0	3	15.0	4	0	0	0	2	0	8	0	0	2	50		0.400	2.4	0.0	1.2	4.8	4.00
1991	27	PIT-min	AAA	0	0		1.42	3	0	2	0	0	2	6.1	7	1	1	0	2	0	8	0	0	2	27		1.421	9.9	0.0	2.8	11.4	4.00	BFL · AA
1991	27	PIT	NL	6	3	.667	3.75	36	7	8	1	1	3	81.2	69	34	34	12	38	2	64	1	2	6	347	96	1.310	7.6	1.3	4.2	7.1	1.68
1992	28	PIT	NL	3	2	.600	4.25	20	8	4	0	0	0	53.0	56	25	25	1	27	1	33	0	0	7	232	83	1.566	9.5	0.2	4.6	5.6	1.22
1993		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1994	30	STL	NL	3	8	.273	4.44	31	17	5	1	1	1	117.2	104	60	58	16	43	2	95	3	0	4	484	93	1.249	8.0	1.2	3.3	7.3	2.21
1995	31	STL	NL	2	3	.400	5.80	20	5	3	0	0	0	40.1	48	29	26	7	19	1	34	2	0	1	184	72	1.661	10.7	1.6	4.2	7.6	1.79
1996		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1997		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1998		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1999	35	NYM-min	AAA	2	1	.667	1.86	7	0	2	0	0	1	9.2	9	2	2	1	4	0	9	2	0	0	42		1.345	8.4	0.9	3.7	8.4	2.25	NFK · IL
2000	36	SDP-CHC-min	AAA	6	3	.667	4.31	42	5	23	1	0	7	77.1	80	40	37	8	23	3	63	4	1	0	332		1.332	9.3	0.9	2.7	7.3	2.74	LVG,IWA · PCL
2000	36	SDP	NL	0	1	.000	6.75	7	0	2	0	0	0	10.2	12	10	8	4	5	1	8	0	0	0	46	65	1.594	10.1	3.4	4.2	6.8	1.60
2001	37	SLT	AAA	0	0		0.00	3	0	2	0	0	1	3.0	1	0	0	0	2	0	5	0	0	0	12		1.000	3.0	0.0	6.0	15.0	2.50	SLT · MEX
2002	38	CMP,SLT	AAA	5	1	.833	3.54	34	0	12	0	0	1	40.2	35	19	16	6	9	1	37	1	0	1	168		1.082	7.7	1.3	2.0	8.2	4.11	CMP,SLT · MEX
2003	39	DLA	AAA	0	3	.000	4.43	12	0	2	0	0	0	20.1	25	12	10	0	14	1	11	0	0	2	92		1.918	11.1	0.0	6.2	4.9	0.79	DLA · MEX
8 Yrs				17	20	.459	4.43	134	44	26	2	2	7	372.0	348	190	183	44	158	9	270	7	7	22	1576	88	1.360	8.4	1.1	3.8	6.5	1.71
162 Game Avg.				6	8	.459	4.43	51	17	10	1	1	3	142	133	73	70	17	60	3	103	3	3	8	602	88	1.360	8.4	1.1	3.8	6.5	1.71

PIT (5 yrs)				12	8	.600	4.03	76	22	16	1	1	6	203.1	184	91	91	17	91	5	133	2	7	17	862	90	1.352	8.1	0.8	4.0	5.9	1.46
STL (2 yrs)				5	11	.313	4.78	51	22	8	1	1	1	158.0	152	89	84	23	62	3	129	5	0	5	668	87	1.354	8.7	1.3	3.5	7.3	2.08
SDP (1 yr)				0	1	.000	6.75	7	0	2	0	0	0	10.2	12	10	8	4	5	1	8	0	0	0	46	65	1.594	10.1	3.4	4.2	6.8	1.60

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	IP	G	GS	R	RA9	RA9opp	RA9def	RA9role	PPFp	RA9avg	RAA	WAA	gmLI	WAAadj	WAR	RAR	waaWL%	162WL%	Salary
1987	23	PIT	NL	29.1	6	4	14	4.30	4.59	0.44	0.10	100.5	4.27	-0	-0.0	.3	-0.0	0.2	3	.494	.500
1988	24	PIT	NL	24.1	7	3	18	6.66	3.89	0.19	-0.07	98.5	3.58	-8	-0.9	1.8	-0.2	-0.8	-6	.376	.495	$62,500

1990	26	PIT	NL	15.0	7	0	0	0.00	4.08	0.09	-0.31	99.9	3.67	6	0.7	.9	-0.0	0.8	7	.597	.504
1991	27	PIT	NL	81.2	36	7	34	3.75	4.06	-0.08	-0.09	99.0	4.00	2	0.2	1.4	-0.1	0.9	9	.505	.501	$125,000
1992	28	PIT	NL	53.0	20	8	25	4.25	3.80	0.00	-0.01	98.2	3.72	-3	-0.4	.7	-0.0	0.0	1	.481	.498	$170,000

1994	30	STL	NL	117.2	31	17	60	4.59	4.70	0.27	0.08	100.7	4.55	-1	-0.1	1.5	-0.1	0.8	10	.495	.499	$175,000
1995	31	STL	NL	40.1	20	5	29	6.47	4.74	0.28	-0.09	100.6	4.38	-10	-1.0	.9	-0.0	-0.6	-6	.452	.494	$250,000

2000	36	SDP	NL	10.2	7	0	10	8.44	5.01	-0.06	-0.38	99.3	4.65	-5	-0.4	.7	0.0	-0.3	-3	.441	.497
8 Seasons				372.0	134	44	190	4.60	4.36	0.15	-0.03	99.7	4.18	-20	-1.9	1.1	-0.4	0.9	13	.486	.499	$782,500

PIT (5 yrs)				203.1	76	22	91	4.03	4.05	0.06	-0.05	99.0	3.89	-5	-0.4	1.2	-0.3	1.1	13	.495	.500	$357,500
STL (2 yrs)				158.0	51	22	89	5.07	4.71	0.27	0.03	100.7	4.51	-11	-1.1	1.2	-0.1	0.1	4	.478	.497	$425,000
SDP (1 yr)				10.2	7	0	10	8.44	5.01	-0.06	-0.38	99.3	4.65	-5	-0.4	.7	0.0	-0.3	-3	.441	.497

Standard Batting

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Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
1983	19	VCZ	AAA																										VCZ · MEX
1983		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1984	20	CHW-min	AAA,AA	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0		0	0	0	0		VCZ,GLF · MEX,EL
1985	21	CHW-min	AAA,AA	8	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0		0	0	0	0		MXD,GLF · MEX,EL
1986	22	VCZ	AAA																										VCZ · MEX
1986		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1987	23	PIT-min	AAA	27	31	25	2	5	0	0	0	2	0	0	3	10	.200	.286	.200	.486		5		0	3	0	0		VAN · PCL
1987	23	PIT	NL	6	9	9	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	.111	.111	.111	.222	-41	1	0	0	0	0	0	/1
1988	24	PIT-min	AAA	5	3	2	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	1	1	.000	.333	.000	.333		0		0	0	0	0		BFL · AA
1988	24	PIT	NL	7	9	8	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	5	.000	.111	.000	.111	-65	0	0	0	0	0	0	/1

1989	25	PIT-min	AAA	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0		0	0	0	0		BFL · AA
1990	26	PIT-min	AAA	28	40	36	2	7	0	0	0	6	0	0	0	7	.194	.194	.194	.389		7		0	4	0	0		BFL · AA
1990	26	PIT	NL	7	5	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	2	.000	.200	.000	.200	-38	0	0	0	0	0	0	/1
1991	27	PIT-min	AAA	3	1	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1.000	1.000	1.000	2.000		1	0	0	0	0	0		BFL · AA
1991	27	PIT	NL	36	19	14	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	7	.071	.071	.071	.143	-59	1	0	0	5	0	0	1
1992	28	PIT	NL	20	16	14	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6	.071	.071	.071	.143	-59	1	0	0	2	0	0	1
1993	29	YUC,ASC	AAA																										YUC,ASC · MEX
1993		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1994	30	STL	NL	31	36	33	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	15	.000	.000	.000	.000	-100	0	1	0	3	0	0	1
1995	31	STL	NL	20	7	6	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	.167	.167	.167	.333	-11	1	0	0	1	0	0	1
1996	32	ASC	AAA																										ASC · MEX
1996		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1997	33	MTY	AAA																										MTY · MEX
1997		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1998	34	MTY	AAA																										MTY · MEX
1998		Did not play in major leagues (Mexico)
1999	35	NYM-min	AAA	7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0	0	0	0	0	0		REY,NFK · MEX,IL
2000	36	SDP-CHC-min	AAA	44	16	12	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	4	.083	.267	.083	.350		1	2	1	1	0	0		LVG,IWA · PCL
2000	36	SDP	NL	7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0	0	0	0	0	0	/1
2001	37	SLT	AAA	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0	0	0	0	0	0		SLT · MEX
2002	38	SLT,CMP	AAA	34	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0	0	0	0	0	0		SLT,CMP · MEX
2003	39	DLA	AAA	12	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0	0	0	0	0	0		DLA · MEX
2004	40	TIJ	AAA																										TIJ · MEX
8 Yrs				134	101	88	2	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	43	.045	.067	.045	.112	-69	4	1	0	11	0	0
162 Game Avg.				162	122	106	2	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	52	.045	.067	.045	.112	-69	5	1	0	13	0	0

PIT (5 yrs)				76	58	49	1	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	24	.061	.098	.061	.159	-54	3	0	0	7	0	0
STL (2 yrs)				51	43	39	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	19	.026	.026	.026	.051	-86	1	1	0	4	0	0
SDP (1 yr)				7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0	0	0	0	0	0

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	Rbat	Rbaser	Rdp	Rfield	Rpos	RAA	WAA	Rrep	RAR	WAR	waaWL%	162WL%	oWAR	dWAR	oRAR	Salary	Pos
1987	23	PIT	NL	6	9	-2	-0	0	0	1	-0	-0.0	0	0	-0.0	.494	.500	-0.0	0.0	0		/1
1988	24	PIT	NL	7	9	-2	-0	0	0	1	-0	-0.1	0	-0	-0.1	.491	.500	-0.1	0.0	-0	$62,500	/1

1990	26	PIT	NL	7	5	-1	0	0	0	1	0	0.0	0	0	0.0	.500	.500	0.0	0.0	0		/1
1991	27	PIT	NL	36	19	-4	-0	0	0	2	-2	-0.2	1	-1	-0.2	.495	.499	-0.2	0.0	-1	$125,000	1
1992	28	PIT	NL	20	16	-3	-0	0	0	2	-1	-0.1	0	-1	-0.1	.494	.499	-0.1	0.0	-1	$170,000	1

1994	30	STL	NL	31	36	-10	0	-0	0	5	-5	-0.6	1	-4	-0.6	.482	.497	-0.6	0.0	-4	$175,000	1
1995	31	STL	NL	20	7	-1	0	0	0	1	0	0.0	0	0	0.0	.500	.500	0.0	0.0	0	$250,000	1

2000	36	SDP	NL	7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.0	0	0	0.0	.500	.500	0.0	0.0	0		/1
8 Seasons				134	101	-23	-0	-0	0	14	-9	-0.9	3	-5	-0.9	.493	.499	-0.9	0.1	-6	$782,500

PIT (5 yrs)				76	58	-11	-0	0	0	8	-3	-0.4	2	-2	-0.4	.495	.499	-0.4	0.0	-2	$357,500
STL (2 yrs)				51	43	-11	0	-0	0	6	-5	-0.6	1	-4	-0.6	.489	.498	-0.6	0.0	-4	$425,000
SDP (1 yr)				7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0.0	0	0	0.0	.500	.500	0.0	0.0	0

Standard Fielding

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Year	Tm	Lg	Age	Pos	G	GS	CG	Inn	Ch	PO	A	E	DP	Fld%	RF/9	RF/G	lgFld%	lgRF9	lgRFG	SB	CS	CS%	lgCS%
1987	PIT	NL	23	P	6	4	0	29.1	3	2	1	0	0	1.000	0.92	0.50	.953	1.90	1.90	6	1	14%	29%
1988	PIT	NL	24	P	7	3	0	24.1	8	3	5	0	0	1.000	2.96	1.14	.955	1.96	1.96	4	2	33%	29%
1990	PIT	NL	26	P	7	0	0	15.0	2	2	0	0	0	1.000	1.20	0.29	.955	1.80	1.79	0	0
1991	PIT	NL	27	P	36	7	1	81.2	13	4	9	0	0	1.000	1.43	0.36	.955	1.86	1.85	3	4	57%	33%
1992	PIT	NL	28	P	20	8	0	53.0	13	5	7	1	1	.923	2.04	0.60	.954	1.94	1.94	2	4	67%	32%
1994	STL	NL	30	P	31	17	1	117.2	24	6	16	2	0	.917	1.68	0.71	.958	1.86	1.85	4	7	64%	32%
1995	STL	NL	31	P	20	5	0	40.1	7	3	4	0	0	1.000	1.56	0.35	.956	1.83	1.83	0	4	100%	30%
2000	SDP	NL	36	P	7	0	0	10.2	3	0	3	0	1	1.000	2.53	0.43	.963	1.77	1.71	0	2	100%	32%
	8 Seasons			P	134	44	2	372.0	73	25	45	3	2	.959	1.69	0.52	.956	1.87	1.86	19	24	56%	31%
	8 Seasons			TOT	134	44	2	372.0	73	25	45	3	2	.959	1.69	0.52	.956	1.87	1.86	19	24	56%	31%

Note: Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.

View Complete Notes on Fielding Data

Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.

Pre-1945 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
From 1945 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1945 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1916 on.
Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1945 to 1973 and complete from then on.
Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1916) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1945 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Hits per 9 IP s c a p y 1994 NL 7.955 (8th)	Shutouts s c a p y 1994 NL 1 (5th)

Hits per 9 IP s c a p y
1994 NL 7.955 (8th)

Shutouts s c a p y
1994 NL 1 (5th)

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray Ink	Pitching - 3 (2148), Average HOFer ≈ 185
JAWS	Relief Pitcher (1717th), -0.1 career WAR/0.8 7yr-peak WAR/0.4 JAWS Average HOF RP (out of 5) = 40.6 career WAR/28.2 7yr-peak WAR/34.4 JAWS

Similarity Scores

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Transactions

July 20, 1984: Purchased by the Chicago White Sox from Veracruz (Mexican).
November 20, 1986: Released by the Chicago White Sox.
December 4, 1986: Signed as a Free Agent with the Pittsburgh Pirates.
December 8, 1986: Drafted by the Milwaukee Brewers from the Pittsburgh Pirates in the 1986 rule 5 draft.
April 3, 1987: Returned (earlier draft pick) by the Milwaukee Brewers to the Pittsburgh Pirates.
November 18, 1992: Released by the Pittsburgh Pirates.
February 1, 1993: Signed as a Free Agent with the San Diego Padres.
March 29, 1993: Released by the San Diego Padres.
December 23, 1993: Signed as a Free Agent with the St. Louis Cardinals.
November 15, 1995: Released by the St. Louis Cardinals.
January 19, 1999: Signed as a Free Agent with the Toronto Blue Jays.
March 21, 1999: Released by the Toronto Blue Jays.
July 30, 1999: Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Mets.
October 15, 1999: Granted Free Agency.
November 4, 1999: Signed as a Free Agent with the San Diego Padres.
August 3, 2000: Released by the San Diego Padres.
August 7, 2000: Signed as a Free Agent with the Chicago Cubs.
October 18, 2000: Granted Free Agency.

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Salaries

Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses

Year	Age	Team	Salary	Sources	Notes/Other Sources
1988	24	Pittsburgh Pirates	$62,500	USA Today, 4/1/88

1991	27	Pittsburgh Pirates	$125,000	USA Today survey
1992	28	Pittsburgh Pirates	$170,000	4/2/92 USA Today

1994	30	St. Louis Cardinals	$175,000	1996 Joint Exhibit 1	Includes $35,000 earned bonus
1995	31	St. Louis Cardinals	$250,000	1996 Joint Exhibit 1	Includes $25,000 earned bonus

Career to date (may be incomplete)			$782,500

Primary salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Additional 1915-1969 salaries researched via Baseball Hall of Fame contract archives by Dr. Michael Haupert of UW-LaCrosse.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.
Salaries converted to alternate years using Consumer Price Index (CPI) data courtesty of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Board.

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