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John Orsino

John Joseph Orsino (Horse)

Positions: Catcher and First Baseman
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 3", Weight: 215 lb.

Born: April 22, 1938 in Teaneck, NJ
Signed by the New York Giants as an amateur free agent in 1957. (All Transactions)
Debut: July 14, 1961 (Age 23)
Teams (by GP): Orioles/Giants/Senators 1961-1967

Final Game: September 10, 1967 (Age 29)
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Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1961 23 SFG NL 25 87 83 5 23 3 2 4 12 0 0 3 13 .277 .310 .506 .816 116 42 0 1 0 0 0 2
1962 24 SFG NL 18 54 48 4 13 2 0 0 4 0 0 5 11 .271 .333 .313 .646 76 15 2 0 0 1 0 2
1963 25 BAL AL 116 430 379 53 103 18 1 19 56 2 3 38 53 .272 .349 .475 .824 133 180 7 9 0 4 6 *2/3
1964 26 BAL AL 81 277 248 21 55 10 0 8 23 0 0 23 55 .222 .290 .359 .649 80 89 6 2 1 3 3 2/3
1965 27 BAL AL 77 263 232 30 54 10 2 9 28 1 0 23 51 .233 .313 .409 .722 102 95 15 5 1 2 2 2/3
1966 28 WSA AL 14 23 23 1 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 .174 .174 .217 .391 13 5 0 0 0 0 0 /32
1967 29 WSA AL 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0
7 Yrs 332 1135 1014 114 252 44 5 40 123 3 3 92 191 .249 .319 .420 .739 106 426 30 17 2 10 11
162 Game Avg. 162 554 495 56 123 21 2 20 60 1 1 45 93 .249 .319 .420 .739 106 208 15 8 1 5 5
BAL (3 yrs) 274 970 859 104 212 38 3 36 107 3 3 84 159 .247 .322 .424 .746 109 364 28 16 2 9 11
SFG (2 yrs) 43 141 131 9 36 5 2 4 16 0 0 8 24 .275 .319 .435 .754 102 57 2 1 0 1 0
WSA (2 yrs) 15 24 24 1 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 .167 .167 .208 .375 8 5 0 0 0 0 0
AL (5 yrs) 289 994 883 105 216 39 3 36 107 3 3 84 167 .245 .319 .418 .736 107 369 28 16 2 9 11
NL (2 yrs) 43 141 131 9 36 5 2 4 16 0 0 8 24 .275 .319 .435 .754 102 57 2 1 0 1 0

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1961 23 SFG NL 25 87 3 -1 0 -1 1 3 0.3 3 6 0.6 .512 .502 0.7 0.0 7 2
1962 24 SFG NL 18 54 -1 -0 -0 -1 1 -2 -0.2 2 -0 -0.0 .486 .498 0.1 -0.0 1 2
1963 25 BAL AL 116 430 13 -2 -1 0 6 16 1.6 13 29 2.9 .515 .511 3.0 0.6 29 *2/3
1964 26 BAL AL 81 277 -6 -0 0 -3 3 -5 -0.7 8 3 0.1 .493 .496 0.5 -0.0 6 2/3
1965 27 BAL AL 77 263 1 -0 -2 0 3 2 0.2 8 10 1.0 .502 .501 1.0 0.3 10 $15,000 2/3
1966 28 WSA AL 14 23 -2 -0 0 0 -0 -2 -0.3 1 -1 -0.2 .482 .498 -0.2 -0.0 -1 $16,000 /32
1967 29 WSA AL 1 1 -0 0 0 0 0 -0 -0.0 0 -0 -0.0 .472 .500 -0.0 0.0 -0
7 Seasons 332 1135 7 -4 -3 -5 14 11 0.8 36 46 4.4 .503 .501 5.2 0.8 51 $31,000
BAL (3 yrs) 274 970 8 -3 -3 -3 13 12 1.0 30 42 4.0 .505 .503 4.6 0.9 45 $15,000
SFG (2 yrs) 43 141 2 -1 -0 -2 2 0 0.0 5 6 0.6 .501 .500 0.8 -0.0 8
WSA (2 yrs) 15 24 -2 -0 0 0 -0 -2 -0.3 1 -2 -0.2 .482 .499 -0.2 -0.0 -2 $16,000

Postseason Batting

Postseason Gamelog
Year Age Tm Lg Series Opp Rslt G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1962 24 SFG NL WS NYY L 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 1 0 0 0 0
1 WS 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 1 0 0 0 0

Standard Fielding

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Adv Fielding w/ run summary
Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% Rtot Rtot/yr RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
1961 SFG NL 23 C 25 22 17 192.0 145 130 9 6 4 .959 -1 -6 6.52 5.56 .985 6.39 6.32 4 7 7 4 36% 38% 0
1962 SFG NL 24 C 16 12 11 114.0 81 72 6 3 1 .963 -1 -11 6.16 4.88 .987 6.72 6.66 0 4 8 3 27% 34% 0
1963 BAL AL 25 C 109 103 97 926.0 680 636 37 7 8 .990 1 1 6.54 6.17 .989 6.64 6.64 7 24 32 16 33% 33% 1
1963 BAL AL 25 1B 3 3 3 25.0 21 20 1 0 2 1.000 -1 -43 7.56 7.00 .990 9.47 9.50
1964 BAL AL 26 C 66 59 52 537.1 425 384 31 10 3 .976 -3 -7 6.95 6.29 .990 7.07 7.06 7 12 28 10 26% 37% 2
1964 BAL AL 26 1B 5 6 3 48.0 43 42 1 0 4 1.000 0 8 8.06 8.60 .991 9.43 9.40
1965 BAL AL 27 C 62 55 47 513.2 372 342 25 5 3 .987 0 0 6.43 5.92 .988 6.96 6.94 5 12 29 12 29% 34% 0
1965 BAL AL 27 1B 5 5 0 30.0 32 30 1 1 1 .969 0 4 9.30 6.20 .991 9.57 9.52
1966 WSA AL 28 1B 5 5 0 31.0 27 25 2 0 3 1.000 0 0 7.84 5.40 .991 9.58 9.58
1966 WSA AL 28 C 2 2 0 4.0 3 3 0 0 0 1.000 0 0 6.75 1.50 .987 6.75 6.85 1 0 1 0 0% 38% 0
6 Seasons C 280 253 224 2287.0 1706 1567 108 31 19 .982 -4 -2 6.59 5.98 .989 6.80 6.78 24 59 105 45 30% 35% 3
4 Seasons 1B 18 19 6 134.0 123 117 5 1 10 .992 -0 -4 8.19 6.78 .991 9.50 9.50
7 Seasons TOT 298 272 230 2421.0 1829 1684 113 32 29 .983 -4 -2 6.68 6.03 .989 6.95 6.94 24 59 105 45 30% 35% 3
Note: Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
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  • Pre-1945 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1945 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1945 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1916 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1945 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1916) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1945 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
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Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1963 AL  9 (2nd)
1965 AL  5 (9th)

Def. Games as C s c a p y
1963 AL  109 (3rd)

Putouts as C s c a p y
1963 AL  636 (3rd)

Errors Committed as C s c a p y
1963 AL  7 (3rd)
1964 AL  10 (3rd)

Double Plays Turned as C s c a p y
1963 AL  8 (4th)

Stolen Bases Allowed as C s c a p y
1963 AL  32 (5th)

Caught Stealing as C s c a p y
1963 AL  16 (3rd)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 6 (2080), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Catcher (326th), 4.4 career WAR/4.4 7yr-peak WAR/4.4 JAWS
Average HOF C (out of 13) = 52.4 career WAR/33.7 7yr-peak WAR/43.0 JAWS

Similarity Scores

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Transactions

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Salaries

 Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses
Year Age Team Salary Sources Notes/Other Sources
196527Baltimore Orioles$15,000Noll/Fort/Hylan database
196628Washington Senators$16,000Noll/Fort/Hylan database
Career to date (may be incomplete)$31,000
Primary salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Additional 1915-1969 salaries researched via Baseball Hall of Fame contract archives by Dr. Michael Haupert of UW-LaCrosse.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.
Salaries converted to alternate years using Consumer Price Index (CPI) data courtesty of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Board.

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