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Dave Orr

David L. Orr

Position: First Baseman
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 11", Weight: 250 lb.

Born: September 29, 1859 in New York, NY (All Transactions)
Debut: May 17, 1883 (Age 23.230)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1884 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Metropolitans/Solons/Ward'sWonders/Bridegrooms/Gothams 1883-1890

Final Game: October 2, 1890 (Age 31.003)
Died: June 2, 1915 in Richmond Hill, NY
Buried: Woodlawn Cemetery, Bronx, NY
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Fine Details  · Last updated Jul 25, 2014 3:17PM
All-Time Rank (among batters): #778. Bill Lange… #779. Terry Puhl… #780. Mark Loretta… #781. DAVE ORR… #782. Milt Stock… #783. Bill Mueller… #784. Tom Daly… 

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1883 23 TOT MLB 14 53 53 6 16 4 3 2 11 0 .302 .302 .604 .906 175 32 3/O
1883 23 TOT AA 13 50 50 6 16 4 3 2 11 0 .320 .320 .640 .960 192 32 3
1883 23 NYP AA 1 4 4 1 1 1 0 0 0 .250 .250 .500 .750 128 2 /3
1883 23 NYG NL 1 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 /O
1883 23 NYP AA 12 46 46 5 15 3 3 2 11 0 .326 .326 .652 .978 197 30 3
1884 24 NYP AA 110 464 458 82 162 32 13 9 112 5 .354 .362 .539 .901 190 247 1 *3/O
1885 25 NYP AA 107 455 444 76 152 29 21 6 77 8 .342 .358 .543 .901 202 241 3 *3/1
1886 26 NYP AA 136 593 571 93 193 25 31 7 91 16 17 .338 .363 .527 .890 185 301 5 *3
1887 27 NYP AA 84 368 345 63 127 25 10 2 66 17 22 21 .368 .408 .516 .924 161 178 1 3/O
1888 28 BRO AA 99 409 394 57 120 20 5 1 59 11 7 15 .305 .330 .388 .718 130 153 8 *3
1889 29 COL AA 134 571 560 70 183 31 12 4 87 12 9 38 .327 .340 .446 .786 130 250 2 *3
1890 30 BWW PL 107 498 464 89 172 32 13 6 124 10 30 11 .371 .414 .534 .948 146 248 4 *3
8 Yrs 791 3411 3289 536 1125 198 108 37 627 66 98 86 .342 .366 .502 .867 162 1650 24
162 Game Avg. 162 699 674 110 230 41 22 8 128 20 .342 .366 .502 .867 162 338
NYP (5 yrs) 450 1930 1868 320 650 115 78 26 357 33 52 21 .348 .369 .535 .904 185 999 10
NYG (1 yr) 1 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0
BWW (1 yr) 107 498 464 89 172 32 13 6 124 10 30 11 .371 .414 .534 .948 146 248 4
COL (1 yr) 134 571 560 70 183 31 12 4 87 12 9 38 .327 .340 .446 .786 130 250 2
BRO (1 yr) 99 409 394 57 120 20 5 1 59 11 7 15 .305 .330 .388 .718 130 153 8
AA (7 yrs) 683 2910 2822 447 953 166 95 31 503 56 68 74 .338 .358 .497 .855 166 1402 20
NL (1 yr) 1 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0
PL (1 yr) 107 498 464 89 172 32 13 6 124 10 30 11 .371 .414 .534 .948 146 248 4

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1883 23 NYP AA 13 50 5 0 0 0 -0 5 0.4 1 6 0.5 .530 .502 0.5 0.0 6 /3
1883 23 NYG NL 1 3 -1 0 0 0 -0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .421 .500 -0.1 0.0 -1 /O
1884 24 NYP AA 110 464 42 0 0 13 -0 55 4.8 10 65 5.8 .546 .531 4.9 1.0 52 *3/O
1885 25 NYP AA 107 455 50 0 0 -5 -0 44 3.9 10 54 5.0 .537 .524 5.4 -0.4 59 *3/1
1886 26 NYP AA 136 593 51 -2 0 10 -0 59 5.0 13 72 6.3 .537 .531 5.4 0.9 62 *3
1887 27 NYP AA 84 368 30 -3 0 -6 -0 21 1.6 8 29 2.5 .519 .510 2.8 -0.4 35 3/O
1888 28 BRO AA 99 409 12 -3 0 5 -0 14 1.3 9 22 2.2 .513 .508 1.6 0.5 17 *3
1889 29 COL AA 134 571 21 -3 0 4 -0 22 1.8 12 34 3.0 .513 .511 2.6 0.4 30 *3
1890 30 BWW PL 107 498 33 -2 0 -12 -0 19 1.5 12 31 2.6 .513 .509 3.4 -0.8 43 *3
8 Seasons 791 3411 242 -12 0 9 -1 238 20.2 74 312 27.9 .526 .518 26.7 1.1 303
NYP (5 yrs) 450 1930 178 -5 0 12 -1 184 15.7 41 225 20.2 .535 .525 19.1 1.1 213
NYG (1 yr) 1 3 -1 0 0 0 -0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .421 .500 -0.1 0.0 -1
BWW (1 yr) 107 498 33 -2 0 -12 -0 19 1.5 12 31 2.6 .513 .509 3.4 -0.8 43
COL (1 yr) 134 571 21 -3 0 4 -0 22 1.8 12 34 3.0 .513 .511 2.6 0.4 30
BRO (1 yr) 99 409 12 -3 0 5 -0 14 1.3 9 22 2.2 .513 .508 1.6 0.5 17

Postseason Batting

Year Age Tm Lg Series Opp Rslt G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1884 24 NYP AA WS PRO L 0 9 9 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .111 .111 .111 .222 1 0
1 WS 0 9 9 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .111 .111 .111 .222 1 0

Standard Pitching

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Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards
1885 25 NYP AA 0 0 7.20 3 0 3 0 0 0 10.0 11 13 8 2 5 1 0 0 2 49 41 6.78 1.600 9.9 1.8 4.5 0.9 0.20
1 Yr 0 0 7.20 3 0 3 0 0 0 10.0 11 13 8 2 5 1 0 0 2 49 41 6.78 1.600 9.9 1.8 4.5 0.9 0.20
162 Game Avg. 0 0 7.20 68 0 68 0 0 0 227 249 295 181 45 113 23 0 0 45 1111 41 6.78 1.600 9.9 1.8 4.5 0.9 0.20
Hold your mouse over the values in the Saves, ERA, or FIP columns for additional information.

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1885 25 NYP AA 10.0 3 0 13 11.70 5.57 -0.25 0.00 86.0 5.01 -7 -0.6 1.0 -0.0 -0.5 -7 .314 .497
1 Season 10.0 3 0 13 11.70 5.57 -0.25 0.00 86.0 5.01 -7 -0.6 1.0 -0.0 -0.5 -7 .314 .497

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
1883 TOT AA 23 1B 13 156 146 1 9 4 .942 11.31 .951 10.69
1883 NYP AA 23 1B 1 10 10 0 0 0 1.000 10.00 .951 10.70
1883 NYG NL 23 OF 1 2 2 0 0 0 1.000 2.00 .850 2.00 1-0-0
1883 NYP AA 23 1B 12 146 136 1 9 4 .938 11.42 .951 10.69
1884 NYP AA 24 1B 110 1234 1161 24 49 29 .960 10.77 .958 10.64
1884 NYP AA 24 OF 3 2 2 0 0 1 1.000 0.67 .845 1.63 0-0-3
1885 NYP AA 25 1B 107 1148 1089 20 39 48 .966 10.36 .966 10.63
1885 NYP AA 25 P 3 10.0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 1.89 1.87
1886 NYP AA 26 1B 136 1507 1445 34 28 62 .981 10.88 .968 10.27
1887 NYP AA 27 1B 81 861 806 28 27 41 .969 10.30 .971 9.88
1887 NYP AA 27 OF 3 5 4 0 1 0 .800 1.33 .898 2.03 0-3-0
1888 BRO AA 28 1B 99 1042 976 44 22 41 .979 10.30 .976 10.65
1889 COL AA 29 1B 134 1375 1291 61 23 64 .983 10.09 .972 10.09
1890 BWW PL 30 1B 107 1081 1009 42 30 67 .972 9.82 .973 10.45
8 Seasons 1B 787 8404 7923 254 227 356 .973 10.39 .969 10.38
3 Seasons OF 7 9 8 0 1 1 .889 1.14 .876 1.86 1-3-3
1 Season P 3 10.0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 1.89 1.87
8 Seasons TOT 797 10.0 8413 7931 254 228 357 .973 0.00 10.27 .968 1.89 10.27 1-3-3
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Wins Above Replacements c a p y
1884 AA  5.8 (7th)
1885 AA  4.5 (9th)
1886 AA  6.3 (5th)

WAR Position Playerss c a p y
1884 AA  5.8 (1st)
1885 AA  5.1 (2nd)
1886 AA  6.3 (1st)

Offensive WARs c a p y
1884 AA  4.9 (1st)
1885 AA  5.5 (1st)
1886 AA  5.4 (1st)
1890 PL  3.4 (7th)

Batting Average s c a p y
1884 AA  .354 (1st)
1885 AA  .342 (2nd)
1886 AA  .338 (3rd)
1887 AA  .368 (3rd)
1888 AA  .305 (5th)
1889 AA  .327 (4th)
1890 PL  .371 (2nd)
Career  .342 (11th)

On-Base% s c a p y
1884 AA  .362 (8th)
1885 AA  .358 (7th)
1887 AA  .408 (8th)

Slugging % s c a p y
1884 AA  .539 (3rd)
1885 AA  .543 (1st)
1886 AA  .527 (1st)
1887 AA  .516 (6th)
1889 AA  .446 (7th)
1890 PL  .534 (4th)
Career  .502 (94th)

On-Base Plus Slugging s c a p y
1884 AA  .901 (3rd)
1885 AA  .901 (2nd)
1886 AA  .890 (2nd)
1887 AA  .924 (6th)
1890 PL  .948 (4th)
Career  .867 (119th)

Games Played s c a p y
1884 AA  110 (6th)

At Bats s c a p y
1886 AA  571 (7th)
1889 AA  560 (9th)

Hits s c a p y
1884 AA  162 (1st)
1885 AA  152 (4th)
1886 AA  193 (1st)
1889 AA  183 (2nd)
1890 PL  172 (8th)

Total Bases s c a p y
1884 AA  247 (1st)
1885 AA  241 (2nd)
1886 AA  301 (1st)
1889 AA  250 (5th)
1890 PL  248 (8th)

Doubles s c a p y
1884 AA  32 (3rd)
1885 AA  29 (3rd)
1889 AA  31 (6th)
1890 PL  32 (6th)

Triples s c a p y
1884 AA  13 (10th)
1885 AA  21 (1st)
1886 AA  31 (1st)
1889 AA  12 (7th)
Career  108 (133rd)

Home Runs s c a p y
1884 AA  9 (3rd)
1885 AA  6 (5th)
1886 AA  7 (2nd)

Runs Batted In s c a p y
1884 AA  112 (1st)
1885 AA  77 (3rd)
1886 AA  91 (4th)
1889 AA  87 (10th)
1890 PL  124 (2nd)

Singles s c a p y
1884 AA  108 (2nd)
1886 AA  130 (3rd)
1889 AA  136 (5th)
1890 PL  121 (10th)

Adjusted OPS+ s c a p y
1884 AA  190 (1st)
1885 AA  202 (1st)
1886 AA  185 (2nd)
1887 AA  161 (6th)
1890 PL  146 (5th)
Career  162 (14th)

Runs Created s c a p y
1884 AA  89 (1st)
1885 AA  85 (4th)
1886 AA  108 (1st)
1889 AA  84 (9th)
1890 PL  101 (7th)

Adj. Batting Runs s c a p y
1884 AA  43 (1st)
1885 AA  45 (2nd)
1886 AA  48 (1st)
1887 AA  27 (6th)
1890 PL  29 (6th)
Career  224 (225th)

Adj. Batting Wins s c a p y
1884 AA  4.8 (1st)
1885 AA  5.0 (2nd)
1886 AA  5.2 (1st)
1887 AA  2.6 (6th)
1890 PL  2.7 (6th)
Career  23.9 (203rd)

Extra Base Hits s c a p y
1884 AA  54 (2nd)
1885 AA  56 (2nd)
1886 AA  63 (1st)
1889 AA  47 (5th)
1890 PL  51 (8th)

Times On Base s c a p y
1884 AA  168 (6th)
1885 AA  163 (8th)
1886 AA  215 (5th)

Offensive Win % s c a p y
1884 AA  .836 (1st)
1885 AA  .817 (2nd)
1886 AA  .803 (2nd)
1887 AA  .771 (5th)
1888 AA  .660 (9th)
1890 PL  .760 (3rd)
Career  .764 (16th)

Power-Speed # s c a p y
1886 AA  9.7 (4th)

AB per SO s c a p y
1888 AA  26.3 (4th)
1890 PL  42.2 (1st)

AB per HR s c a p y
1884 AA  50.9 (4th)
1885 AA  74.0 (6th)
1886 AA  81.6 (5th)

Games Finished s c a p y
1885 AA  3 (4th)

Putoutss c a p y
1884 AA  1,163 (2nd)
1885 AA  1,089 (2nd)
1886 AA  1,445 (1st)
1889 AA  1,291 (3rd)

Def. Games as 1B s c a p y
1884 AA  110 (1st)
1885 AA  107 (1st)
1886 AA  136 (3rd)
1889 AA  134 (2nd)

Putouts as 1B s c a p y
1884 AA  1,161 (2nd)
1885 AA  1,089 (2nd)
1886 AA  1,445 (1st)
1887 AA  806 (5th)
1889 AA  1,291 (3rd)

Assists as 1B s c a p y
1886 AA  34 (4th)
1888 AA  44 (4th)
1889 AA  61 (1st)
1890 PL  42 (5th)

Errors Committed as 1B s c a p y
1884 AA  49 (3rd)
1885 AA  39 (3rd)
1887 AA  27 (3rd)
1890 PL  30 (5th)
Career  227 (23rd)

Double Plays Turned as 1B s c a p y
1885 AA  48 (2nd)
1886 AA  62 (4th)
1890 PL  67 (4th)

Range Factor/Game as 1B s c a p y
1884 AA  10.77 (5th)
1885 AA  10.36 (5th)
1886 AA  10.88 (1st)
1887 AA  10.30 (1st)
1888 AA  10.30 (5th)
1889 AA  10.09 (4th)
Career  10.39 (45th)

Fielding % as 1B s c a p y
1885 AA  .966 (4th)
1886 AA  .981 (1st)
1888 AA  .979 (3rd)
1889 AA  .983 (2nd)
1890 PL  .972 (5th)

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Black InkBatting - 22 (94), Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray InkBatting - 108 (199), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame MonitorBatting - 64 (313), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 28 (381), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS First Base (72nd), 27.9 career WAR/27.4 7yr-peak WAR/27.7 JAWS
Average HOF 1B (out of 19) = 65.9 career WAR/42.4 7yr-peak WAR/54.2 JAWS

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Name and misspellings: David Dave davey david L. Orr

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