Roger Eugene Nelson (Spider)
Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 3", Weight: 200 lb.
Born: June 7, 1944 in Altadena, CA
High School: Covina HS (Covina, CA)
Signed by the Chicago White Sox as an amateur free agent in 1963.
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Debut: September 9, 1967 (Age 23)
Teams (by GP): Royals/Reds/Orioles/WhiteSox 1967-1976
Final Game: September 23, 1976 (Age 32)
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| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | W | L | G | GS | GF | CG | SHO | SV | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | BK | WP | BF | Awards | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1967 | 23 | CHW | AL | 0 | 1 | .000 | 1.29 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7.0 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 24 | 251 | 0.571 | 5.1 | 1.3 | 0.0 | 5.1 | ||
| 1968 | 24 | BAL | AL | 4 | 3 | .571 | 2.41 | 19 | 6 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 71.0 | 49 | 21 | 19 | 3 | 26 | 3 | 70 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 283 | 122 | 1.056 | 6.2 | 0.4 | 3.3 | 8.9 | 2.69 | |
| 1969 | 25 | KCR | AL | 7 | 13 | .350 | 3.31 | 29 | 29 | 0 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 193.1 | 170 | 78 | 71 | 12 | 65 | 4 | 82 | 6 | 1 | 8 | 790 | 111 | 1.216 | 7.9 | 0.6 | 3.0 | 3.8 | 1.26 | |
| 1970 | 26 | KCR | AL | 0 | 2 | .000 | 10.00 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9.0 | 18 | 10 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 45 | 39 | 2.000 | 18.0 | 3.0 | 0.0 | 3.0 | ||
| 1971 | 27 | KCR | AL | 0 | 1 | .000 | 5.29 | 13 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 34.0 | 35 | 20 | 20 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 29 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 139 | 65 | 1.176 | 9.3 | 0.3 | 1.3 | 7.7 | 5.80 | |
| 1972 | 28 | KCR | AL | 11 | 6 | .647 | 2.08 | 34 | 19 | 9 | 10 | 6 | 2 | 173.1 | 120 | 41 | 40 | 13 | 31 | 1 | 120 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 652 | 145 | 0.871 | 6.2 | 0.7 | 1.6 | 6.2 | 3.87 | |
| 1973 | 29 | CIN | NL | 3 | 2 | .600 | 3.46 | 14 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 54.2 | 49 | 25 | 21 | 4 | 24 | 1 | 17 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 234 | 100 | 1.335 | 8.1 | 0.7 | 4.0 | 2.8 | 0.71 | |
| 1974 | 30 | CIN | NL | 4 | 4 | .500 | 3.38 | 14 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 85.1 | 67 | 36 | 32 | 7 | 35 | 1 | 42 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 353 | 104 | 1.195 | 7.1 | 0.7 | 3.7 | 4.4 | 1.20 | |
| 1976 | 32 | KCR | AL | 0 | 0 | 2.08 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8.2 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 36 | 178 | 0.923 | 4.2 | 0.0 | 4.2 | 4.2 | 1.00 | ||
| 9 Yrs | 29 | 32 | .475 | 3.06 | 135 | 77 | 22 | 20 | 7 | 4 | 636.1 | 516 | 234 | 216 | 44 | 190 | 11 | 371 | 17 | 2 | 25 | 2556 | 110 | 1.109 | 7.3 | 0.6 | 2.7 | 5.2 | 1.95 | ||||
| 162 Game Avg. | 9 | 10 | .475 | 3.06 | 43 | 25 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 204 | 166 | 75 | 69 | 14 | 61 | 4 | 119 | 5 | 1 | 8 | 820 | 110 | 1.109 | 7.3 | 0.6 | 2.7 | 5.2 | 1.95 | ||||
| KCR (5 yrs) | 18 | 22 | .450 | 3.08 | 83 | 51 | 13 | 18 | 7 | 2 | 418.1 | 347 | 151 | 143 | 29 | 105 | 6 | 238 | 10 | 1 | 15 | 1662 | 110 | 1.080 | 7.5 | 0.6 | 2.3 | 5.1 | 2.27 | ||||
| CIN (2 yrs) | 7 | 6 | .538 | 3.41 | 28 | 20 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 140.0 | 116 | 61 | 53 | 11 | 59 | 2 | 59 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 587 | 102 | 1.250 | 7.5 | 0.7 | 3.8 | 3.8 | 1.00 | ||||
| BAL (1 yr) | 4 | 3 | .571 | 2.41 | 19 | 6 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 71.0 | 49 | 21 | 19 | 3 | 26 | 3 | 70 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 283 | 122 | 1.056 | 6.2 | 0.4 | 3.3 | 8.9 | 2.69 | ||||
| CHW (1 yr) | 0 | 1 | .000 | 1.29 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7.0 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 24 | 251 | 0.571 | 5.1 | 1.3 | 0.0 | 5.1 | |||||
| AL (7 yrs) | 22 | 26 | .458 | 2.96 | 107 | 57 | 21 | 18 | 7 | 3 | 496.1 | 400 | 173 | 163 | 33 | 131 | 9 | 312 | 13 | 1 | 21 | 1969 | 112 | 1.070 | 7.3 | 0.6 | 2.4 | 5.7 | 2.38 | ||||
| NL (2 yrs) | 7 | 6 | .538 | 3.41 | 28 | 20 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 140.0 | 116 | 61 | 53 | 11 | 59 | 2 | 59 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 587 | 102 | 1.250 | 7.5 | 0.7 | 3.8 | 3.8 | 1.00 | ||||
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | IP | G | GS | R | RA9 | RA9opp | RA9def | RA9role | PPFp | RA9avg | RAA | WAA | WAAadj | WAR | RAR | waaWL% | 162WL% | Awards | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1967 | 23 | CHW | AL | 7.0 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1.29 | 3.87 | 0.41 | -0.16 | 87.8 | 2.90 | 1 | 0.2 | .9 | -0.0 | 0.2 | 2 | .533 | .501 | $4,800 | |
| 1968 | 24 | BAL | AL | 71.0 | 19 | 6 | 21 | 2.66 | 3.44 | 0.42 | -0.03 | 98.8 | 2.95 | 3 | 0.4 | 1.2 | -0.1 | 1.0 | 7 | .521 | .502 | $6,600 | |
| 1969 | 25 | KCR | AL | 193.1 | 29 | 29 | 78 | 3.63 | 4.18 | -0.09 | 0.07 | 100.1 | 4.35 | 16 | 1.9 | -0.1 | 3.6 | 32 | .566 | .512 | $17,500 | ||
| 1970 | 26 | KCR | AL | 9.0 | 4 | 2 | 10 | 10.00 | 3.93 | 0.02 | 0.02 | 102.3 | 4.02 | -6 | -0.6 | .5 | 0.0 | -0.5 | -5 | .359 | .497 | ||
| 1971 | 27 | KCR | AL | 34.0 | 13 | 1 | 20 | 5.29 | 3.88 | 0.01 | -0.15 | 99.4 | 3.70 | -6 | -0.7 | .6 | 0.1 | -0.3 | -3 | .449 | .496 | ||
| 1972 | 28 | KCR | AL | 173.1 | 34 | 19 | 41 | 2.13 | 3.34 | -0.09 | 0.03 | 99.0 | 3.42 | 26 | 3.5 | 1.0 | -0.1 | 5.1 | 38 | .603 | .522 | $16,000 | |
| 1973 | 29 | CIN | NL | 54.2 | 14 | 8 | 25 | 4.12 | 4.13 | 0.30 | 0.06 | 99.4 | 3.87 | -2 | -0.2 | .9 | -0.0 | 0.3 | 3 | .488 | .499 | ||
| 1974 | 30 | CIN | NL | 85.1 | 14 | 12 | 36 | 3.80 | 4.06 | 0.36 | 0.10 | 98.5 | 3.75 | -1 | -0.1 | 1.4 | -0.0 | 0.6 | 6 | .492 | .499 | $28,000 | |
| 1976 | 32 | KCR | AL | 8.2 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 2.08 | 3.88 | 0.24 | -0.32 | 100.6 | 3.34 | 1 | 0.1 | .4 | -0.1 | 0.2 | 2 | .549 | .501 | ||
| 9 Seasons | 636.1 | 135 | 77 | 234 | 3.31 | 3.82 | 0.08 | 0.03 | 99.2 | 3.75 | 33 | 4.6 | .9 | -0.4 | 10.2 | 82 | .534 | .503 | $72,900 | ||||
| KCR (5 yrs) | 418.1 | 83 | 51 | 151 | 3.25 | 3.80 | -0.07 | 0.03 | 99.6 | 3.88 | 32 | 4.3 | .8 | -0.2 | 8.1 | 63 | .552 | .505 | $33,500 | ||||
| CIN (2 yrs) | 140.0 | 28 | 20 | 61 | 3.92 | 4.09 | 0.34 | 0.09 | 98.8 | 3.79 | -3 | -0.3 | 1.0 | -0.1 | 0.9 | 9 | .490 | .499 | $28,000 | ||||
| BAL (1 yr) | 71.0 | 19 | 6 | 21 | 2.66 | 3.44 | 0.42 | -0.03 | 98.8 | 2.95 | 3 | 0.4 | 1.2 | -0.1 | 1.0 | 7 | .521 | .502 | $6,600 | ||||
| CHW (1 yr) | 7.0 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1.29 | 3.87 | 0.41 | -0.16 | 87.8 | 2.90 | 1 | 0.2 | .9 | -0.0 | 0.2 | 2 | .533 | .501 | $4,800 | ||||
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | TB | GDP | HBP | SH | SF | IBB | Pos | Awards | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1967 | 23 | CHW | AL | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | /1 | ||||||
| 1968 | 24 | BAL | AL | 19 | 22 | 16 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 10 | .063 | .167 | .063 | .229 | -28 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
| 1969 | 25 | KCR | AL | 29 | 66 | 58 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 16 | .138 | .164 | .172 | .336 | -6 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 1 | |
| 1970 | 26 | KCR | AL | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1.000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | /1 | |||||
| 1971 | 27 | KCR | AL | 13 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | .333 | .429 | .333 | .762 | 121 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
| 1972 | 28 | KCR | AL | 34 | 61 | 54 | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 19 | .093 | .140 | .093 | .233 | -29 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
| 1973 | 29 | CIN | NL | 14 | 19 | 18 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | .111 | .111 | .111 | .222 | -37 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
| 1974 | 30 | CIN | NL | 14 | 32 | 28 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 7 | .179 | .233 | .179 | .412 | 17 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
| 1976 | 32 | KCR | AL | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | /1 | ||||||
| 9 Yrs | 135 | 208 | 180 | 12 | 23 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 58 | .128 | .177 | .139 | .316 | -8 | 25 | 1 | 0 | 16 | 1 | 0 | |||||
| 162 Game Avg. | 162 | 250 | 216 | 14 | 28 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 13 | 70 | .128 | .177 | .139 | .316 | -8 | 30 | 1 | 0 | 19 | 1 | 0 | |||||
| KCR (5 yrs) | 83 | 135 | 118 | 8 | 15 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 37 | .127 | .175 | .144 | .319 | -7 | 17 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 1 | 0 | |||||
| CIN (2 yrs) | 28 | 51 | 46 | 4 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 11 | .152 | .188 | .152 | .340 | -3 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | |||||
| BAL (1 yr) | 19 | 22 | 16 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 10 | .063 | .167 | .063 | .229 | -28 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | |||||
| CHW (1 yr) | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||
| AL (7 yrs) | 107 | 157 | 134 | 8 | 16 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 47 | .119 | .174 | .134 | .308 | -9 | 18 | 1 | 0 | 13 | 1 | 0 | |||||
| NL (2 yrs) | 28 | 51 | 46 | 4 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 11 | .152 | .188 | .152 | .340 | -3 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | |||||
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | Rbat | Rbaser | Rdp | Rfield | Rpos | RAA | WAA | Rrep | RAR | WAR | waaWL% | 162WL% | oWAR | dWAR | oRAR | Pos | Awards | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1967 | 23 | CHW | AL | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | .500 | .500 | 0.0 | -0.0 | 0 | $4,800 | /1 | |
| 1968 | 24 | BAL | AL | 19 | 22 | -3 | -0 | -0 | 0 | 2 | -1 | -0.1 | 1 | -0 | -0.1 | .494 | .499 | -0.1 | -0.0 | -0 | $6,600 | 1 | |
| 1969 | 25 | KCR | AL | 29 | 66 | -8 | -0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | -0 | -0.1 | 2 | 2 | -0.1 | .498 | .500 | -0.1 | -0.0 | 2 | $17,500 | 1 | |
| 1970 | 26 | KCR | AL | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | .511 | .500 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | /1 | ||
| 1971 | 27 | KCR | AL | 13 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0.1 | 0 | 1 | 0.1 | .508 | .501 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 1 | 1 | ||
| 1972 | 28 | KCR | AL | 34 | 61 | -9 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | -3 | -0.4 | 2 | -1 | -0.4 | .490 | .498 | -0.3 | -0.0 | -1 | $16,000 | 1 | |
| 1973 | 29 | CIN | NL | 14 | 19 | -3 | -0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | -1 | -0.1 | 1 | 0 | -0.1 | .495 | .500 | -0.1 | 0.0 | 0 | 1 | ||
| 1974 | 30 | CIN | NL | 14 | 32 | -3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0.1 | 1 | 2 | 0.1 | .504 | .500 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 2 | $28,000 | 1 | |
| 1976 | 32 | KCR | AL | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | .501 | .500 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0 | /1 | ||
| 9 Seasons | 135 | 208 | -25 | -1 | 1 | 0 | 22 | -3 | -0.4 | 7 | 4 | -0.4 | .497 | .500 | -0.4 | -0.1 | 4 | $72,900 | |||||
| KCR (5 yrs) | 83 | 135 | -16 | -1 | 1 | 0 | 15 | -2 | -0.3 | 5 | 3 | -0.3 | .497 | .500 | -0.2 | -0.0 | 3 | $33,500 | |||||
| CIN (2 yrs) | 28 | 51 | -6 | -0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | -0 | -0.0 | 2 | 2 | -0.0 | .500 | .500 | -0.0 | 0.0 | 2 | $28,000 | |||||
| BAL (1 yr) | 19 | 22 | -3 | -0 | -0 | 0 | 2 | -1 | -0.1 | 1 | -0 | -0.1 | .494 | .499 | -0.1 | -0.0 | -0 | $6,600 | |||||
| CHW (1 yr) | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | .500 | .500 | 0.0 | -0.0 | 0 | $4,800 | |||||
| Year | Tm | Lg | Age | Pos | G | GS | CG | Inn | Ch | PO | A | E | DP | Fld% | RF/9 | RF/G | lgFld% | lgRF9 | lgRFG | SB | CS | CS% | lgCS% | PO | Awards |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1967 | CHW | AL | 23 | P | 5 | 0 | 0 | 7.0 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1.000 | 3.86 | 0.60 | .957 | 1.93 | 1.96 | 0 | 1 | 100% | 41% | 0 | |
| 1968 | BAL | AL | 24 | P | 19 | 6 | 0 | 71.0 | 11 | 3 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 1.000 | 1.39 | 0.58 | .957 | 1.89 | 1.88 | 4 | 4 | 50% | 37% | 1 | |
| 1969 | KCR | AL | 25 | P | 29 | 29 | 8 | 193.1 | 49 | 19 | 25 | 5 | 3 | .898 | 2.05 | 1.52 | .951 | 1.88 | 1.88 | 11 | 10 | 48% | 36% | 4 | |
| 1970 | KCR | AL | 26 | P | 4 | 2 | 0 | 9.0 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1.000 | 3.00 | 0.75 | .950 | 1.90 | 1.85 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |||
| 1971 | KCR | AL | 27 | P | 13 | 1 | 0 | 34.0 | 11 | 2 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 1.000 | 2.91 | 0.85 | .958 | 1.99 | 1.97 | 2 | 0 | 0% | 38% | 0 | |
| 1972 | KCR | AL | 28 | P | 34 | 19 | 10 | 173.1 | 42 | 8 | 33 | 1 | 1 | .976 | 2.13 | 1.21 | .950 | 1.86 | 1.85 | 14 | 5 | 26% | 39% | 3 | |
| 1973 | CIN | NL | 29 | P | 14 | 8 | 1 | 54.2 | 15 | 3 | 12 | 0 | 2 | 1.000 | 2.47 | 1.07 | .950 | 1.88 | 1.88 | 1 | 1 | 50% | 36% | 1 | |
| 1974 | CIN | NL | 30 | P | 14 | 12 | 1 | 85.1 | 18 | 6 | 10 | 2 | 1 | .889 | 1.69 | 1.14 | .944 | 1.88 | 1.88 | 6 | 2 | 25% | 33% | 1 | |
| 1976 | KCR | AL | 32 | P | 3 | 0 | 0 | 8.2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1.000 | 2.08 | 0.67 | .950 | 1.87 | 1.87 | 3 | 0 | 0% | 34% | 0 | |
| 9 Seasons | P | 135 | 77 | 20 | 636.1 | 154 | 43 | 103 | 8 | 8 | .948 | 2.06 | 1.08 | .951 | 1.88 | 1.88 | 41 | 23 | 36% | 37% | 10 | ||||
| 9 Seasons | TOT | 135 | 77 | 20 | 636.1 | 154 | 43 | 103 | 8 | 8 | .948 | 2.06 | 1.08 | .951 | 1.88 | 1.88 | 41 | 23 | 36% | 37% | 10 | ||||
| Gray Ink | Pitching - 12 (1380), Average HOFer ≈ 185 |
| Hall of Fame Monitor | Pitching - 1 (1982), Likely HOFer ≈ 100 |
| Hall of Fame Standards | Pitching - 17 (408), Average HOFer ≈ 50 |
| JAWS | Starting Pitcher (861st), 9.8 career WAR/10.4 7yr-peak WAR/10.1 JAWS Average HOF P (out of 57) = 72.6 career WAR/50.0 7yr-peak WAR/61.3 JAWS |
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| Year | Age | Team | Salary | Sources | Notes/Other Sources |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1967 | 23 | Chicago White Sox | $4,800 | Noll/Fort/Hylan database | |
| 1968 | 24 | Baltimore Orioles | $6,600 | Noll/Fort/Hylan database | |
| 1969 | 25 | Kansas City Royals | $17,500 | Noll/Fort/Hylan database | |
| 1972 | 28 | Kansas City Royals | $16,000 | Noll/Fort/Hylan database | |
| 1974 | 30 | Cincinnati Reds | $28,000 | Noll/Fort/Hylan database | |
| 1975 | 31 | Chicago White Sox | $28,000 | Noll/Fort/Hylan database | |
| Career to date (may be incomplete) | $100,900 | ||||
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