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Buddy Myer

Charles Solomon Myer

Positions: Second Baseman, Shortstop and Third Baseman
Bats: Left, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 10", Weight: 163 lb.

Born: March 16, 1904 in Ellisville, MS
School: Mississippi State University (Mississippi State, MS)(All Transactions)
Debut: September 26, 1925
Teams (by GP): Senators/RedSox 1925-1941

Final Game: September 24, 1941
Died: October 31, 1974 in Baton Rouge, LA
Buried: Greenoaks Memorial Park, Baton Rouge, LA
Relatives: Greatuncle of Bob Myrick
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Fine Details  · Last Updated Jun 1, 2012, 7:10PM
All-Time Rank (among Batters): #281. Lefty O'Doul… #282. Ted Kluszewski… #283. Tim Salmon… #284. BUDDY MYER… #285. Harry Stovey… #286. David Justice… #287. Jimmy Rollins… 

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1925 21 WSH AL 4 8 8 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .250 .250 .250 .500 28 2 0 0 /6
1926 22 WSH AL 132 499 434 66 132 18 6 1 62 10 11 45 19 .304 .370 .380 .750 97 165 0 20 *6/5
1927 23 TOT AL 148 601 520 66 146 23 11 2 54 12 6 56 18 .281 .355 .379 .734 93 197 4 21 *657O/4
1927 23 WSH AL 15 61 51 7 11 1 0 0 7 3 1 8 3 .216 .322 .235 .557 48 12 0 2 6
1927 23 BOS AL 133 540 469 59 135 22 11 2 47 9 5 48 15 .288 .359 .394 .753 98 185 4 19 657O/4
1928 24 BOS AL 147 621 536 78 168 26 6 1 44 30 16 53 28 .313 .379 .390 .769 106 209 4 26 *5 MVP-9
1929 25 WSH AL 141 639 563 80 169 29 10 3 82 19 7 63 33 .300 .373 .403 .776 99 227 2 11 45
1930 26 WSH AL 138 617 541 97 164 18 8 2 61 14 11 58 31 .303 .373 .377 .750 90 204 2 16 *4/O79
1931 27 WSH AL 139 664 591 114 173 33 11 4 56 11 14 58 42 .293 .360 .406 .766 100 240 4 9 *4
1932 28 WSH AL 143 661 577 120 161 38 16 5 52 12 7 69 33 .279 .360 .426 .786 105 246 4 11 *4
1933 29 WSH AL 131 602 530 95 160 29 15 4 61 6 8 60 29 .302 .374 .436 .810 116 231 1 10 *4 MVP-15
1934 30 WSH AL 139 636 524 103 160 33 8 3 57 6 6 102 32 .305 .419 .416 .835 120 218 1 9 *4
1935 31 WSH AL 151 719 616 115 215 36 11 5 100 7 6 96 40 .349 .440 .468 .907 138 288 4 4 *4 AS,MVP-4
1936 32 WSH AL 51 201 156 31 42 5 2 0 15 7 2 42 11 .269 .427 .327 .754 93 51 1 2 4
1937 33 WSH AL 125 519 430 54 126 16 10 1 65 2 6 78 41 .293 .407 .384 .791 104 165 5 6 *4/7O AS
1938 34 WSH AL 127 534 437 79 147 22 8 6 71 9 5 93 32 .336 .454 .465 .918 138 203 1 3 *4 MVP-24
1939 35 WSH AL 83 300 258 33 78 10 3 1 32 4 1 40 18 .302 .396 .376 .772 105 97 3 0 2 4
1940 36 WSH AL 71 244 210 28 61 14 4 0 29 6 3 34 10 .290 .389 .395 .785 110 83 6 0 1 4
1941 37 WSH AL 53 125 107 14 27 3 1 0 9 2 0 18 10 .252 .360 .299 .659 80 32 3 0 0 4
17 Yrs 1923 8190 7038 1174 2131 353 130 38 850 157 109 965 428 .303 .389 .406 .795 108 2858 12 33 151
162 Game Avg. 162 690 593 99 180 30 11 3 72 13 9 81 36 .303 .389 .406 .795 108 241 3 13
G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
WSH (16 yrs) 1643 7029 6033 1037 1828 305 113 35 759 118 88 864 385 .303 .393 .408 .801 109 2464 12 25 106
BOS (2 yrs) 280 1161 1005 137 303 48 17 3 91 39 21 101 43 .301 .370 .392 .762 102 394 8 45

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.1): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1925 21 WSH AL 4 8 -1 0 0 0 0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 0.0 .481 .500 0.0 0.0 -1 $ /6
1926 22 WSH AL 132 499 0 -2 0 -15 8 -9 -0.9 16 7 0.7 .493 .495 2.2 -0.7 22 $ *6/5
1927 23 WSH AL 15 61 -4 0 0 0 1 -2 -0.2 2 -0 0.0 .485 .499 0.0 0.1 -0 $ 6
1927 23 BOS AL 133 540 0 0 0 -6 7 1 0.2 17 18 1.9 .501 .501 2.4 0.1 24 $ 657O/4
1928 24 BOS AL 147 621 8 0 0 5 4 17 1.7 20 37 3.7 .512 .510 3.1 1.0 32 $ *5 MVP-9
1929 25 WSH AL 141 639 1 2 0 -4 4 4 0.3 20 24 2.3 .502 .502 2.6 0.0 28 $ 45
1930 26 WSH AL 138 617 -5 -1 0 5 4 3 0.3 19 23 2.2 .502 .502 1.7 0.9 18 $ *4/O79
1931 27 WSH AL 139 664 1 -3 0 7 5 10 1.0 21 30 3.0 .507 .506 2.3 1.1 23 $ *4
1932 28 WSH AL 143 661 5 0 0 3 5 13 1.2 21 34 3.2 .509 .508 3.0 0.7 31 $ *4
1933 29 WSH AL 131 602 13 -1 0 8 4 24 2.3 19 43 4.2 .518 .514 3.5 1.2 35 $ *4 MVP-15
1934 30 WSH AL 139 636 23 -1 0 -5 4 21 1.9 20 41 3.9 .514 .512 4.4 -0.1 46 $ *4
1935 31 WSH AL 151 719 41 -0 0 -5 5 40 3.6 22 63 5.8 .525 .523 6.4 -0.1 68 $ *4 AS,MVP-4
1936 32 WSH AL 51 201 3 1 0 2 1 7 0.6 6 13 1.2 .511 .504 1.1 0.3 11 $ 4
1937 33 WSH AL 125 519 8 -2 0 -1 4 10 0.9 16 26 2.5 .507 .505 2.6 0.3 27 $10,000 *4/7O AS
1938 34 WSH AL 127 534 35 -0 0 2 4 41 3.7 17 58 5.4 .529 .522 5.1 0.6 56 $ *4 MVP-24
1939 35 WSH AL 83 300 6 1 0 2 3 11 1.0 9 20 1.9 .512 .506 1.7 0.4 18 $ 4
1940 36 WSH AL 71 244 6 0 0 1 2 9 0.9 6 15 1.5 .512 .505 1.4 0.3 14 $ 4
1941 37 WSH AL 53 125 -2 0 0 0 1 -0 -0.1 3 3 0.3 .499 .500 0.3 0.1 3 $ 4
17 Seasons 1923 8190 138 -6 0 -1 68 199 18.2 254 453 43.7 .510 .506 43.8 6.5 454 $10,000
Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
WSH (16 yrs) 1643 7029 130 -7 0 0 57 180 16.3 218 398 38.1 .510 .506 38.3 5.5 398 $10,000
BOS (2 yrs) 280 1161 8 1 0 -1 11 18 1.9 37 55 5.6 .506 .506 5.5 1.0 56 $

Postseason Batting

Postseason Gamelog
Year Age Tm Lg Series Opp Rslt G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1925 21 WSH AL WS PIT L 3 9 8 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 .250 .333 .250 .583 2 0 0 0 0 0
1933 29 WSH AL WS NYG L 5 22 20 2 6 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 3 .300 .364 .350 .714 7 0 0 0 0 0
2 Yrs (2 Series) 8 31 28 2 8 1 0 0 2 0 1 3 5 .286 .355 .321 .676 9 0 0 0 0 0
2 WS 8 31 28 2 8 1 0 0 2 0 1 3 5 .286 .355 .321 .676 9 0 0 0 0 0

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG Awards
1925 WSH AL 21 SS 4 1 1 4 1 3 0 0 1.000 1.00 .945 5.20
1926 WSH AL 22 SS 118 102 100 552 215 297 40 47 .928 4.34 .944 5.01
1926 WSH AL 22 3B 8 7 5 20 11 7 2 0 .900 2.25 .951 3.38
1927 TOT AL 23 SS 116 116 111 659 267 352 40 73 .939 5.34 .945 5.28
1927 WSH AL 23 SS 15 15 14 75 29 41 5 9 .933 4.67 .945 5.28
1927 BOS AL 23 SS 101 101 97 584 238 311 35 64 .940 5.44 .945 5.28
1927 BOS AL 23 3B 14 12 11 46 17 26 3 3 .935 3.07 .952 3.33
1927 BOS AL 23 LF 10 9 8 23 20 2 1 0 .957 2.20 .967 2.38
1927 BOS AL 23 OF 10 9 8 23 20 2 1 0 .957 2.20 .964 2.35
1927 BOS AL 23 2B 1 0 0 5 1 4 0 2 1.000 5.00 .960 5.70
1928 BOS AL 24 3B 144 141 133 458 137 306 15 35 .967 3.08 .951 3.27 MVP-9
1929 WSH AL 25 2B 88 87 85 497 205 271 21 51 .958 5.41 .968 5.91
1929 WSH AL 25 3B 53 51 50 171 69 91 11 13 .936 3.02 .952 3.10
1930 WSH AL 26 2B 134 133 129 762 330 405 27 89 .965 5.49 .969 5.95
1930 WSH AL 26 OF 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.30
1930 WSH AL 26 LF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.10
1930 WSH AL 26 RF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.00
1931 WSH AL 27 2B 137 137 137 743 333 398 12 87 .984 5.34 .965 5.84
1932 WSH AL 28 2B 139 139 137 798 352 426 20 97 .975 5.60 .968 5.92
1933 WSH AL 29 2B 129 129 113 790 356 417 17 92 .978 5.99 .971 5.99 MVP-15
1934 WSH AL 30 2B 135 134 130 807 367 420 20 101 .975 5.83 .969 5.87
1935 WSH AL 31 2B 151 151 148 953 460 473 20 138 .979 6.18 .969 5.86 AS,MVP-4
1936 WSH AL 32 2B 43 42 40 267 120 143 4 31 .985 6.12 .972 5.78
1937 WSH AL 33 2B 119 118 115 669 308 338 23 90 .966 5.43 .972 5.64 AS
1937 WSH AL 33 LF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.20 AS
1937 WSH AL 33 OF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.40 AS
1938 WSH AL 34 2B 121 117 114 675 308 355 12 91 .982 5.48 .967 5.52 MVP-24
1939 WSH AL 35 2B 65 65 64 375 175 188 12 48 .968 5.58 .965 5.56
1940 WSH AL 36 2B 54 54 52 305 119 176 10 34 .967 5.46 .969 5.39
1941 WSH AL 37 2B 24 21 21 109 53 54 2 12 .982 4.46 .967 5.47
14 Seasons 2B 1340 1327 1285 7755 3487 4068 200 963 .974 5.64 .969 5.80
3 Seasons SS 238 219 212 1215 483 652 80 120 .934 4.77 .945 5.14
4 Seasons 3B 219 211 199 695 234 430 31 51 .955 3.03 .951 3.24
3 Seasons OF 13 9 8 23 20 2 1 0 .957 1.69 .964 2.35
3 Seasons LF 12 9 8 23 20 2 1 0 .957 1.83 .967 2.34
1 Season RF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.00
17 Seasons TOT 1810 1766 1704 9688 4224 5152 312 1134 .968 5.18 .964 5.38
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG Awards
Note: Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1948 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1948 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1948 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1918 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1948 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1918) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1948 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Hall of Fame
1949 BBWAA ( 0.7%)

All-Star Games
1935
1937

MVP (yr lg (rk, shr))
1928 AL (9, 17%)
1933 AL (15, 6%)
1935 AL (4, 45%)
1938 AL (24, 1%)
0.69 Career Shares (346th)

Wins Above Replacement† s c a p y
1935 AL  5.8 (9th)
1938 AL  5.4 (7th)

WAR Position Players† s c a p y
1935 AL  5.8 (6th)
1938 AL  5.4 (5th)
Career  43.7 (209th)

Offensive WAR† s c a p y
1934 AL  4.4 (9th)
1935 AL  6.4 (4th)
1938 AL  5.1 (6th)
Career  43.8 (192nd)

Defensive WAR† s c a p y
1928 AL  1.0 (3rd)
1930 AL  0.9 (6th)
1931 AL  1.1 (4th)
1932 AL  0.7 (10th)
1933 AL  1.2 (5th)
1938 AL  0.6 (8th)

Batting Average s c a p y
1935 AL  .349 (1st)
1938 AL  .336 (4th)
Career  .303 (177th)

On-Base% s c a p y
1934 AL  .419 (6th)
1935 AL  .440 (4th)
1937 AL  .407 (9th)
1938 AL  .454 (2nd)
Career  .389 (104th)

On-Base Plus Slugging s c a p y
1935 AL  .907 (6th)

Games Played s c a p y
1927 AL  148 (8th)
1935 AL  151 (5th)

At Bats s c a p y
1931 AL  591 (10th)
1935 AL  616 (9th)

Plate Appearances s c a p y
1931 AL  664 (10th)
1935 AL  719 (2nd)
Career  8,190 (232nd)

Runs Scored s c a p y
1931 AL  114 (8th)
1932 AL  120 (6th)
1935 AL  115 (7th)
Career  1,174 (194th)

Hits s c a p y
1935 AL  215 (2nd)
Career  2,131 (203rd)

Total Bases s c a p y
1935 AL  288 (9th)

Doubles s c a p y
1932 AL  38 (10th)
1935 AL  36 (10th)

Triples s c a p y
1927 AL  11 (7th)
1931 AL  11 (10th)
1932 AL  16 (2nd)
1933 AL  15 (4th)
1935 AL  11 (8th)
Career  130 (81st)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1934 AL  102 (4th)
1935 AL  96 (4th)
1938 AL  93 (7th)
Career  965 (131st)

Stolen Bases s c a p y
1928 AL  30 (1st)
1929 AL  19 (6th)
1932 AL  12 (10th)

Singles s c a p y
1928 AL  135 (7th)
1930 AL  136 (6th)
1935 AL  163 (2nd)
Career  1,610 (146th)

Adjusted OPS+ s c a p y
1935 AL  138 (7th)

Runs Created s c a p y
1935 AL  125 (5th)

Adj. Batting Runs s c a p y
1935 AL  40 (4th)
1938 AL  32 (9th)

Adj. Batting Wins s c a p y
1935 AL  3.8 (4th)
1938 AL  2.9 (9th)

Times On Base s c a p y
1934 AL  263 (8th)
1935 AL  315 (1st)
Career  3,129 (162nd)

Offensive Win % s c a p y
1935 AL  .708 (5th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1932 AL  4 (7th)
1935 AL  4 (7th)
1937 AL  5 (7th)

Sacrifice Hits s c a p y
1928 AL  26 (5th)
1932 AL  11 (9th)
Career  151 (170th)

Caught Stealing s c a p y
1926 AL  11 (5th)
1928 AL  16 (2nd)
1930 AL  11 (5th)
1931 AL  14 (4th)
Career  109 (83rd)

AB per SO s c a p y
Career  16.4 (225th)

Outs Made s c a p y
1931 AL  441 (5th)
1932 AL  434 (10th)

Assists† s c a p y
1935 AL  473 (5th)
Career  5,152 (81st)

Errors Committed† s c a p y
1926 AL  42 (2nd)
1927 AL  44 (3rd)

Def. Games as 2B s c a p y
1930 AL  134 (4th)
1931 AL  137 (2nd)
1932 AL  139 (3rd)
1933 AL  129 (5th)
1934 AL  135 (4th)
1935 AL  151 (1st)
1937 AL  119 (4th)
Career  1,340 (50th)

Putouts as 2B s c a p y
1930 AL  330 (4th)
1931 AL  333 (2nd)
1932 AL  352 (4th)
1933 AL  356 (3rd)
1934 AL  367 (3rd)
1935 AL  460 (1st)
1937 AL  308 (3rd)
1938 AL  308 (4th)
Career  3,487 (32nd)

Assists as 2B s c a p y
1931 AL  398 (4th)
1932 AL  426 (4th)
1933 AL  417 (4th)
1934 AL  420 (4th)
1935 AL  473 (3rd)
1937 AL  338 (4th)
1938 AL  355 (5th)
Career  4,068 (44th)

Errors Committed as 2B s c a p y
1929 AL  21 (5th)
1930 AL  27 (4th)
1932 AL  20 (4th)
1933 AL  17 (5th)
1934 AL  20 (4th)
1935 AL  20 (4th)
1937 AL  23 (1st)
Career  200 (64th)

Def. Games as 3B s c a p y
1928 AL  144 (2nd)

Putouts as 3B s c a p y
1928 AL  137 (4th)

Assists as 3B s c a p y
1928 AL  306 (2nd)

Errors Committed as 3B s c a p y
1928 AL  15 (4th)

Def. Games as SS s c a p y
1927 AL  116 (4th)

Putouts as SS s c a p y
1927 AL  267 (3rd)

Assists as SS s c a p y
1927 AL  352 (5th)

Errors Committed as SS s c a p y
1926 AL  40 (3rd)
1927 AL  40 (4th)

Range Factor/Game as 2B s c a p y
1929 AL  5.41 (5th)
1933 AL  5.99 (4th)
1934 AL  5.83 (4th)
1935 AL  6.18 (1st)
1937 AL  5.43 (3rd)
1938 AL  5.48 (3rd)
Career  5.64 (37th)

Fielding % as 2B s c a p y
1931 AL  .984 (1st)
1932 AL  .975 (4th)
1933 AL  .978 (4th)
1934 AL  .975 (4th)
1935 AL  .979 (2nd)
1938 AL  .982 (1st)

Fielding % as 3B s c a p y
1928 AL  .967 (2nd)

Range Factor/Game as SS s c a p y
1927 AL  5.34 (3rd)

Fielding % as SS s c a p y
1927 AL  .939 (5th)

Oldest s c a p y
1940 AL  born 1904-03-16 (10th)
1941 AL  born 1904-03-16 (9th)

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Black InkBatting - 6 (345), Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray InkBatting - 45 (561), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame MonitorBatting - 86 (207), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 41 (154), Average HOFer ≈ 50

Similarity Scores

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  5. Stan Hack (882)
  6. Larry Doyle (874)
  7. Deacon White (866)
  8. Jack Glasscock (863)
  9. Jimmy Collins (855) *
  10. Al Dark (851)
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  3. Chuck Knoblauch (949)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  4. Chuck Knoblauch (947)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
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  6. Bill Hallman (942)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  7. Woody English (938)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  8. Nellie Fox (919) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  9. Larry Doyle (926)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  10. Larry Doyle (910)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  11. Larry Doyle (911)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  12. Billy Herman (914) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  13. Billy Herman (921) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  14. Billy Herman (914) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  15. Billy Herman (914) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
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Transactions

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Salaries

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Year Age Team Salary Sources Notes
193733Washington Senators$10,0001937 N.O. Times-Picayune clip
Career to date (may be incomplete)$10,000
Salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.

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