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Red Murray

John Joseph Murray

Position: Outfielder
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 10", Weight: 190 lb.

Born: March 4, 1884 in Arnot, PA
High School: Arnot HS (Arnot, PA)
Schools: Lock Haven University of Pennsylvania (Lock Haven, PA), University of Notre Dame (South Bend, IN) (All Transactions)
Debut: June 16, 1906 (Age 22)
Teams (by GP): Giants/Cardinals/Cubs 1906-1917

Final Game: October 3, 1917 (Age 33)
Died: December 4, 1958 in Sayre, PA
Buried: St. Peter and Paul Cemetery, Elmira, NY
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Fine Details  · Last updated May 25, 2013 1:17PM
All-Time Rank (among batters): #1112. Willie Upshaw… #1113. Carlos Gomez… #1114. Don Hurst… #1115. RED MURRAY… #1116. Wally Westlake… #1117. Johnny Edwards… #1118. Ryan Ludwick… 

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1906 22 STL NL 46 154 144 18 37 9 7 1 16 5 9 17 .257 .305 .438 .743 135 63 1 0 O/2
1907 23 STL NL 132 520 485 46 127 10 10 7 46 23 24 60 .262 .301 .367 .668 113 178 3 8 *O
1908 24 STL NL 154 642 593 64 167 19 15 7 62 48 37 58 .282 .332 .400 .732 139 237 8 4 *O
1909 25 NYG NL 149 633 570 74 150 15 12 7 91 48 45 52 .263 .319 .368 .688 112 210 2 16 *O
1910 26 NYG NL 149 634 553 78 153 27 8 4 87 57 52 51 .277 .345 .376 .721 110 208 6 23 *O
1911 27 NYG NL 140 547 488 70 142 27 15 3 78 48 43 37 .291 .354 .426 .781 116 208 5 11 *O
1912 28 NYG NL 143 603 549 83 152 26 20 3 92 38 27 45 .277 .320 .413 .734 97 227 8 19 *O MVP-16
1913 29 NYG NL 147 578 520 70 139 21 3 2 59 35 25 34 28 .267 .320 .331 .650 85 172 6 18 *O MVP-19
1914 30 NYG NL 86 155 139 19 31 6 3 0 23 11 9 7 .223 .270 .309 .580 75 43 0 7 O
1915 31 TOT NL 96 293 271 32 71 7 3 3 22 8 8 15 23 .262 .303 .343 .646 97 93 1 6 O/4
1915 31 NYG NL 45 134 127 12 28 1 2 3 11 2 3 7 15 .220 .261 .331 .592 82 42 0 0 O
1915 31 CHC NL 51 159 144 20 43 6 1 0 11 6 5 8 8 .299 .340 .354 .694 110 51 1 6 O/4
1917 33 NYG NL 22 27 22 1 1 1 0 0 3 0 4 3 .045 .192 .091 .283 -11 2 0 1 O/9872
11 Yrs 1264 4786 4334 555 1170 168 96 37 579 321 33 299 381 .270 .323 .379 .702 108 1641 40 113
162 Game Avg. 162 613 555 71 150 22 12 5 74 41 38 49 .270 .323 .379 .702 108 210 5 14
NYG (8 yrs) 881 3311 2968 407 796 124 63 22 444 239 28 221 238 .268 .325 .375 .699 101 1112 27 95
STL (3 yrs) 332 1316 1222 128 331 38 32 15 124 76 70 135 .271 .317 .391 .708 128 478 12 12
CHC (1 yr) 51 159 144 20 43 6 1 0 11 6 5 8 8 .299 .340 .354 .694 110 51 1 6

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1906 22 STL NL 46 154 5 0 0 -1 -1 2 0.3 5 8 0.8 .507 .502 1.0 -0.3 8 O/2
1907 23 STL NL 132 520 5 0 0 -2 -7 -4 -0.6 17 13 1.3 .496 .497 1.6 -1.2 15 *O
1908 24 STL NL 154 642 22 4 0 -7 -6 14 1.6 20 34 3.8 .511 .511 4.8 -1.7 41 *O
1909 25 NYG NL 149 633 6 5 0 0 -8 3 0.5 20 23 2.6 .502 .502 2.5 -0.9 23 *O
1910 26 NYG NL 149 634 7 7 0 5 -8 11 1.3 19 30 3.2 .508 .508 2.6 -0.2 25 *O
1911 27 NYG NL 140 547 9 6 0 -3 -7 5 0.4 17 22 2.1 .503 .503 2.6 -1.1 24 *O
1912 28 NYG NL 143 603 -5 3 0 9 -8 -0 -0.1 19 18 1.8 .500 .500 1.0 0.1 9 *O MVP-16
1913 29 NYG NL 147 578 -8 -0 0 9 -8 -8 -0.9 18 10 0.9 .494 .495 -0.1 0.2 1 *O MVP-19
1914 30 NYG NL 86 155 -4 2 0 -3 -3 -8 -1.0 5 -3 -0.5 .489 .494 -0.1 -0.7 -0 O
1915 31 NYG NL 45 134 -2 -0 0 -2 -1 -6 -0.7 4 -1 -0.3 .485 .496 0.0 -0.4 1 O
1915 31 CHC NL 51 159 2 -0 0 2 -2 2 0.2 5 6 0.7 .504 .501 0.5 -0.0 5 O/4
1917 33 NYG NL 22 27 -3 0 0 0 -0 -3 -0.4 1 -2 -0.3 .483 .498 -0.3 -0.1 -2 O/9872
11 Seasons 1264 4786 33 26 0 7 -58 8 0.6 150 158 16.2 .501 .500 16.1 -6.2 151
NYG (8 yrs) 881 3311 0 21 0 15 -42 -6 -0.9 103 97 9.6 .499 .499 8.2 -3.1 82
STL (3 yrs) 332 1316 31 4 0 -10 -14 12 1.3 42 54 5.9 .505 .503 7.4 -3.1 64
CHC (1 yr) 51 159 2 -0 0 2 -2 2 0.2 5 6 0.7 .504 .501 0.5 -0.0 5

Postseason Batting

Postseason Gamelog
Year Age Tm Lg Series Opp Rslt G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1911 27 NYG NL WS PHA L 6 25 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 5 .000 .087 .000 .087 0 0 0 2 0 0
1912 28 NYG NL WS BOS L 8 34 31 5 10 4 1 0 4 0 1 2 2 .323 .364 .516 .880 16 0 0 1 0 0
1913 29 NYG NL WS PHA L 5 19 16 2 4 0 0 0 1 2 1 2 2 .250 .368 .250 .618 4 0 1 0 0 0
3 Yrs (3 Series) 19 78 68 7 14 4 1 0 5 2 2 6 9 .206 .280 .294 .574 20 0 1 3 0 0
3 WS 19 78 68 7 14 4 1 0 5 2 2 6 9 .206 .280 .294 .574 20 0 1 3 0 0

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
1906 STL NL 22 OF 34 52 43 7 2 0 .962 1.47 .959 1.89 4-11-20
1906 STL NL 22 C 7 43 30 10 3 2 .930 5.71 .970 6.26 3 12 7 37% 45%
1907 STL NL 23 OF 131 275 232 25 18 4 .935 1.96 .960 1.98 124-1-6
1908 STL NL 24 OF 154 324 274 22 28 4 .914 1.92 .960 2.04 0-89-67
1909 NYG NL 25 OF 149 266 222 30 14 1 .947 1.69 .961 2.07 29-0-120
1910 NYG NL 26 OF 148 287 246 26 15 3 .948 1.84 .959 2.17 24-0-124
1911 NYG NL 27 OF 131 218 196 12 10 4 .954 1.59 .960 2.15 50-2-83
1912 NYG NL 28 OF 143 284 255 20 9 7 .968 1.92 .956 2.24 27-0-117 MVP-16
1913 NYG NL 29 OF 147 314 279 24 11 3 .965 2.06 .960 2.21 32-1-116 MVP-19
1914 NYG NL 30 OF 49 58 56 2 0 0 1.000 1.18 .957 2.13 16-0-34
1915 TOT NL 31 OF 74 162 148 8 6 2 .963 2.11 .959 2.12 8-41-28
1915 NYG NL 31 OF 34 73 66 4 3 1 .959 2.06 .959 2.12 1-30-3
1915 CHC NL 31 OF 40 89 82 4 3 1 .966 2.15 .959 2.12 7-11-25
1915 CHC NL 31 2B 1 4 0 4 0 0 1.000 4.00 .955 5.00
1917 NYG NL 33 OF 11 3 3 11 11 0 0 0 1.000 1.00 .963 2.20 4-4-3
1917 NYG NL 33 RF 5 3 3 7 7 0 0 0 1.000 1.40 .954 1.86
1917 NYG NL 33 CF 3 0 0 3 3 0 0 0 1.000 1.00 .967 2.57
1917 NYG NL 33 LF 3 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1.000 0.33 .960 2.17
1917 NYG NL 33 C 1 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 1.000 2.00 .975 6.00 0 0 0
11 Seasons OF 1171 3 3 2251 1962 176 113 28 .950 1.83 .959 2.12 321-152-723
2 Seasons C 8 0 0 45 32 10 3 2 .933 5.25 .970 6.22 3 12 7 37% 45%
1 Season (incomplete) RF 5 3 3 7 7 0 0 0 1.000 1.40 .954 1.86
1 Season (incomplete) CF 3 0 0 3 3 0 0 0 1.000 1.00 .967 2.57
1 Season (incomplete) LF 3 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1.000 0.33 .960 2.17
1 Season 2B 1 4 0 4 0 0 1.000 4.00 .955 5.00
11 Seasons TOT 1180 3 3 2300 1994 190 116 30 .950 1.85 .960 2.15 321-152-723 3 12 7 37% 45%
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
Note: Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1945 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1945 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1945 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1916 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1945 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1916) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1945 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Hall of Fame
1937 BBWAA ( 0.5%)
1938 BBWAA ( 0.4%)

MVP (yr lg (rk, shr))
1912 NL (16, 8%)
1913 NL (19, 6%)
0.14 Career Shares (836th)

Offensive WAR† s c a p y
1908 NL  4.8 (7th)

Slugging % s c a p y
1908 NL  .400 (5th)

On-Base Plus Slugging s c a p y
1908 NL  .732 (8th)

Games Played s c a p y
1908 NL  154 (7th)

At Bats s c a p y
1908 NL  593 (3rd)
1909 NL  570 (7th)

Plate Appearances s c a p y
1908 NL  642 (9th)

Hits s c a p y
1908 NL  167 (3rd)

Total Bases s c a p y
1908 NL  237 (3rd)
1909 NL  210 (9th)

Doubles s c a p y
1910 NL  27 (9th)
1911 NL  27 (10th)

Triples s c a p y
1908 NL  15 (5th)
1909 NL  12 (5th)
1911 NL  15 (7th)
1912 NL  20 (2nd)
Career  96 (175th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1907 NL  7 (3rd)
1908 NL  7 (3rd)
1909 NL  7 (1st)

Runs Batted In s c a p y
1908 NL  62 (7th)
1909 NL  91 (2nd)
1910 NL  87 (3rd)
1912 NL  92 (5th)

Strikeouts s c a p y
1907 NL  60 (7th)

Stolen Bases s c a p y
1908 NL  48 (2nd)
1909 NL  48 (2nd)
1910 NL  57 (2nd)
1911 NL  48 (5th)
1912 NL  38 (4th)
1913 NL  35 (9th)
Career  321 (137th)

Singles s c a p y
1908 NL  126 (5th)

Adjusted OPS+ s c a p y
1908 NL  139 (6th)

Runs Created s c a p y
1908 NL  77 (4th)
1909 NL  67 (10th)

Adj. Batting Runs s c a p y
1908 NL  23 (7th)

Adj. Batting Wins s c a p y
1908 NL  2.8 (7th)

Extra Base Hits s c a p y
1908 NL  41 (6th)
1912 NL  49 (7th)

Times On Base s c a p y
1908 NL  212 (8th)

Offensive Win % s c a p y
1908 NL  .706 (9th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1908 NL  8 (7th)
1912 NL  8 (5th)

Caught Stealing s c a p y
1913 NL  25 (5th)

Power-Speed # s c a p y
1907 NL  10.7 (3rd)
1908 NL  12.2 (2nd)
1909 NL  12.2 (1st)

AB per SO s c a p y
1913 NL  18.6 (7th)

AB per HR s c a p y
1907 NL  69.3 (3rd)
1908 NL  84.7 (3rd)
1909 NL  81.4 (1st)
1915 NL  90.3 (8th)

Outs Made s c a p y
1909 NL  436 (7th)
1912 NL  416 (10th)

Def. Games as OF s c a p y
1908 NL  154 (3rd)
1913 NL  147 (4th)

Assists as OF s c a p y
1907 NL  25 (3rd)
1908 NL  22 (4th)
1909 NL  30 (1st)
1910 NL  26 (1st)
1913 NL  24 (2nd)
Career  176 (74th)

Errors Committed as OF s c a p y
1907 NL  18 (1st)
1908 NL  28 (1st)
1909 NL  14 (4th)

Double Plays Turned as OF s c a p y
1912 NL  7 (3rd)

Fielding % as OF s c a p y
1912 NL  .968 (1st)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Black InkBatting - 4 (427), Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray InkBatting - 57 (443), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame MonitorBatting - 7 (1363), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 11 (1506), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Right Field (139th), 16.2 career WAR/15.7 7yr-peak WAR/15.9 JAWS
Average HOF RF (out of 23) = 70.9 career WAR/42.0 7yr-peak WAR/56.4 JAWS

Similarity Scores

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  5. Frank Schulte (969)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
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  7. Les Mann (954)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  8. Les Mann (946)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
  9. Les Mann (945)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
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