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Chief Meyers

John Tortes Meyers

Position: Catcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 11", Weight: 194 lb.

Born: July 29, 1880 in Riverside, CA
High School: Riverside HS (Riverside, CA) (All Transactions)
Debut: April 16, 1909 (Age 28)
Teams (by GP): Giants/Robins/Braves 1909-1917

Final Game: October 4, 1917 (Age 37)
Died: July 25, 1971 in San Bernardino, CA
Buried: Green Acres Memorial Park, Bloomington, CA
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Fine Details  · Last updated Jun 19, 2013 9:17PM
All-Time Rank (among batters): #918. Leon Wagner… #919. Charlie Maxwell… #920. Buck Weaver… #921. CHIEF MEYERS… #922. Duke Farrell… #923. Andy Seminick… #924. Patsy Donovan… 

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1909 28 NYG NL 90 252 220 15 61 10 5 1 30 3 22 12 .277 .359 .382 .741 129 84 6 4 2
1910 29 NYG NL 127 422 365 25 104 18 0 1 62 5 40 18 .285 .362 .342 .704 106 125 4 13 *2
1911 30 NYG NL 133 439 391 48 130 18 9 1 61 7 25 33 .332 .392 .432 .824 128 169 13 10 *2 MVP-10
1912 31 NYG NL 126 435 371 60 133 16 5 6 54 8 47 20 .358 .441 .477 .918 147 177 8 9 *2 MVP-3
1913 32 NYG NL 120 428 378 37 118 18 5 3 47 7 9 37 22 .312 .387 .410 .797 127 155 9 4 *2 MVP-5
1914 33 NYG NL 134 428 381 33 109 13 5 1 55 4 34 25 .286 .357 .354 .711 115 135 8 5 *2
1915 34 NYG NL 110 323 289 24 67 10 5 1 26 4 4 26 18 .232 .311 .311 .622 92 90 7 1 2
1916 35 BRO NL 80 275 239 21 59 10 3 0 21 2 26 15 .247 .336 .314 .650 97 75 6 3 2
1917 36 TOT NL 72 225 200 13 45 7 4 0 7 4 17 11 .225 .292 .300 .592 82 60 2 6 2
1917 36 BRO NL 47 148 132 8 28 3 0 0 3 4 13 7 .212 .283 .235 .518 58 31 0 3 2
1917 36 BSN NL 25 77 68 5 17 4 4 0 4 0 4 4 .250 .311 .426 .737 131 29 2 3 2
9 Yrs 992 3227 2834 276 826 120 41 14 363 44 13 274 174 .291 .367 .378 .744 117 1070 63 55
162 Game Avg. 162 527 463 45 135 20 7 2 59 7 45 28 .291 .367 .378 .744 117 175 10 9
NYG (7 yrs) 840 2727 2395 242 722 103 34 14 335 38 13 231 148 .301 .376 .390 .766 122 935 55 46
BRO (2 yrs) 127 423 371 29 87 13 3 0 24 6 39 22 .235 .317 .286 .603 84 106 6 6
BSN (1 yr) 25 77 68 5 17 4 4 0 4 0 4 4 .250 .311 .426 .737 131 29 2 3

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1909 28 NYG NL 90 252 8 -0 0 -2 4 10 1.2 8 18 2.0 .512 .507 2.2 0.3 20 2
1910 29 NYG NL 127 422 5 -1 0 -2 7 9 1.1 13 22 2.3 .508 .506 2.5 0.6 24 *2
1911 30 NYG NL 133 439 15 -1 0 2 7 23 2.3 14 37 3.7 .518 .515 3.6 0.9 35 *2 MVP-10
1912 31 NYG NL 126 435 27 -1 0 -1 7 33 3.2 13 46 4.6 .526 .520 4.8 0.6 47 *2 MVP-3
1913 32 NYG NL 120 428 15 -1 0 0 7 21 2.3 13 34 3.6 .519 .514 3.6 0.8 34 $5,000 *2 MVP-5
1914 33 NYG NL 134 428 8 -0 0 3 7 18 2.0 13 31 3.4 .515 .513 3.1 1.1 28 *2
1915 34 NYG NL 110 323 -1 0 0 2 5 7 0.8 10 17 1.9 .508 .505 1.7 0.9 15 2
1916 35 BRO NL 80 275 1 -0 0 2 5 7 0.9 8 16 1.8 .511 .505 1.5 0.8 13 2
1917 36 BRO NL 47 148 -6 -0 0 0 2 -4 -0.4 5 1 0.0 .491 .497 0.0 0.3 1 2
1917 36 BSN NL 25 77 2 0 0 1 1 5 0.6 2 7 0.8 .523 .504 0.7 0.3 6 2
9 Seasons 992 3227 74 -4 0 5 54 129 13.8 100 229 24.1 .514 .510 23.8 6.6 224 $5,000
NYG (7 yrs) 840 2727 77 -4 0 2 46 121 12.8 85 205 21.5 .516 .512 21.6 5.2 203 $5,000
BRO (2 yrs) 127 423 -5 -0 0 2 7 4 0.4 13 16 1.8 .504 .502 1.5 1.1 15
BSN (1 yr) 25 77 2 0 0 1 1 5 0.6 2 7 0.8 .523 .504 0.7 0.3 6

Postseason Batting

Postseason Gamelog
Year Age Tm Lg Series Opp Rslt G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1911 30 NYG NL WS PHA L 6 21 20 2 6 2 0 0 2 0 1 0 3 .300 .286 .400 .686 8 0 0 0 1 0
1912 31 NYG NL WS BOS L 8 32 28 2 10 0 1 0 3 1 1 2 3 .357 .419 .429 .848 12 0 1 1 0 1
1913 32 NYG NL WS PHA L 1 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0
1916 35 BRO NL WS BOS L 3 11 10 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .200 .273 .400 .673 4 0 0 0 0 0
4 Yrs (4 Series) 18 68 62 4 18 2 2 0 5 1 2 3 6 .290 .328 .387 .715 24 0 1 1 1 1
4 WS 18 68 62 4 18 2 2 0 5 1 2 3 6 .290 .328 .387 .715 24 0 1 1 1 1

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
1909 NYG NL 28 C 64 464 376 71 17 4 .963 6.98 .965 6.27 8 62 52 46% 45%
1910 NYG NL 29 C 117 817 638 154 25 16 .969 6.77 .973 6.30 17 133 107 45% 44%
1911 NYG NL 30 C 128 855 729 108 18 11 .979 6.54 .966 6.44 10 108 85 44% 44% MVP-10
1912 NYG NL 31 C 122 706 576 111 19 10 .973 5.63 .969 6.31 12 101 84 45% 44% MVP-3
1913 NYG NL 32 C 116 747 579 143 25 12 .967 6.22 .970 6.29 6 111 102 48% 44% MVP-5
1914 NYG NL 33 C 126 657 487 150 20 16 .970 5.06 .970 6.31 5 91 91 50% 44%
1915 NYG NL 34 C 96 562 464 90 8 15 .986 5.77 .975 6.20 13 90 58 39% 46%
1916 BRO NL 35 C 74 72 64 492 389 95 8 9 .984 6.54 .974 6.30 8 74 62 46% 44%
1917 TOT NL 36 C 68 62 46 379 299 74 6 6 .984 5.49 .975 5.98 7 52 40 43% 44%
1917 BRO NL 36 C 44 41 28 229 186 37 6 3 .974 5.07 .975 5.98 4 36 21 37% 44%
1917 BSN NL 36 C 24 21 18 150 113 37 0 3 1.000 6.25 .975 5.98 3 16 19 54% 44%
9 Seasons C 911 134 110 5679 4537 996 146 99 .974 6.07 .970 6.28 86 822 681 45% 44%
9 Seasons TOT 911 134 110 5679 4537 996 146 99 .974 6.07 .970 6.28 86 822 681 45% 44%
Note: Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1945 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1945 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1945 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1916 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1945 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1916) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1945 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

MVP (yr lg (rk, shr))
1911 NL (10, 17%)
1912 NL (3, 39%)
1913 NL (5, 31%)
0.87 Career Shares (289th)

WAR Position Players† s c a p y
1911 NL  3.7 (10th)
1912 NL  4.6 (6th)

Offensive WAR† s c a p y
1912 NL  4.8 (4th)

Defensive WAR† s c a p y
1911 NL  0.9 (10th)
1914 NL  1.1 (8th)
1916 NL  0.8 (9th)

Batting Average s c a p y
1911 NL  .332 (3rd)
1912 NL  .358 (2nd)
1913 NL  .312 (7th)

On-Base% s c a p y
1911 NL  .392 (9th)
1912 NL  .441 (1st)
1913 NL  .387 (7th)

Slugging % s c a p y
1912 NL  .477 (4th)

On-Base Plus Slugging s c a p y
1911 NL  .824 (9th)
1912 NL  .918 (2nd)

Adjusted OPS+ s c a p y
1912 NL  147 (2nd)
1913 NL  127 (10th)

Adj. Batting Runs s c a p y
1912 NL  27 (6th)

Adj. Batting Wins s c a p y
1912 NL  2.7 (6th)

Offensive Win % s c a p y
1911 NL  .694 (7th)
1912 NL  .769 (2nd)
1913 NL  .670 (9th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1911 NL  13 (5th)
1912 NL  8 (5th)
1913 NL  9 (2nd)
1914 NL  8 (8th)

AB per SO s c a p y
1910 NL  20.3 (6th)
Career  16.3 (236th)

AB per HR s c a p y
1912 NL  61.8 (10th)

Def. Games as C s c a p y
1910 NL  117 (3rd)
1911 NL  128 (1st)
1912 NL  122 (1st)
1913 NL  116 (2nd)
1914 NL  126 (1st)

Putouts as C s c a p y
1910 NL  638 (1st)
1911 NL  729 (1st)
1912 NL  576 (1st)
1913 NL  579 (1st)
1914 NL  487 (1st)
1915 NL  464 (4th)

Assists as C s c a p y
1910 NL  154 (3rd)
1913 NL  143 (4th)
1914 NL  150 (3rd)
Career  996 (48th)

Errors Committed as C s c a p y
1910 NL  25 (2nd)
1911 NL  18 (4th)
1912 NL  19 (3rd)
1913 NL  25 (2nd)
1914 NL  20 (2nd)
Career  146 (81st)

Double Plays Turned as C s c a p y
1910 NL  16 (2nd)
1911 NL  11 (3rd)
1913 NL  12 (3rd)
1914 NL  16 (1st)
1915 NL  15 (1st)
1916 NL  9 (5th)
Career  99 (60th)

Passed Balls s c a p y
1909 NL  8 (5th)
1910 NL  17 (1st)
1911 NL  10 (3rd)
1912 NL  12 (1st)
1913 NL  6 (5th)
1915 NL  13 (2nd)

Stolen Bases Allowed as C s c a p y
1910 NL  133 (2nd)
1913 NL  111 (5th)
1915 NL  90 (3rd)
Career  822 (56th)

Caught Stealing as C s c a p y
1910 NL  107 (2nd)
1913 NL  102 (3rd)
1914 NL  91 (2nd)
Career  681 (32nd)

Caught Stealing %† s c a p y
1913 NL  47.9 (4th)
1914 NL  50.0 (3rd)
1916 NL  45.6 (5th)
Career  45.3 (88th)

Range Factor/Game as C s c a p y
1909 NL  6.98 (1st)
1910 NL  6.77 (1st)
1911 NL  6.54 (2nd)
1912 NL  5.63 (5th)
1913 NL  6.22 (2nd)
1915 NL  5.77 (5th)
1916 NL  6.54 (1st)
1917 NL  5.49 (5th)
Career  6.07 (88th)

Fielding % as C s c a p y
1911 NL  .979 (3rd)
1912 NL  .973 (4th)
1915 NL  .986 (1st)

Oldest s c a p y
1915 NL  born 1880-07-29 (9th)
1916 NL  born 1880-07-29 (9th)
1917 NL  born 1880-07-29 (6th)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkBatting - 15 (1200), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame MonitorBatting - 25 (690), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 11 (1518), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Catcher (54th), 24.1 career WAR/21.5 7yr-peak WAR/22.8 JAWS
Average HOF C (out of 13) = 52.4 career WAR/33.7 7yr-peak WAR/43.1 JAWS

Similarity Scores

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  7. Frankie Pytlak (939)  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
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Transactions

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Salaries

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Year Age Team Salary Sources Notes/Other Sources
191332New York Giants$5,0001913 Munsey's Magazine clip
Career to date (may be incomplete)$5,000
Primary salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
Additional 1915-1969 salaries researched via Baseball Hall of Fame contract archives by Dr. Michael Haupert of UW-LaCrosse.
Salaries for mid-season call-ups or traded players may not be shown.
Salaries converted to alternate years using Consumer Price Index (CPI) data courtesty of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Board.

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