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Jock Menefee

John Menefee

Positions: Pitcher, Rightfielder and First Baseman
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 0", Weight: 165 lb.

Born: January 15, 1868 in Rowlesburg, WV (All Transactions)
Debut: August 17, 1892
Teams (by GP): Orphans/Colonels/Cubs/Pirates/Giants 1892-1903

Final Game: September 7, 1903
Died: March 11, 1953 in Belle Vernon, PA
Buried: Cochran Cemetery, Dawson, PA
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Fine Details  · Last Updated Dec 23, 2011, 8:56AM
All-Time Rank (among Pitchers): #1. Walter Johnson… #2. Cy Young… #3. Greg Maddux… #4. Christy Mathewson… #5. Pete Alexander… #6. Tom Seaver… #7. Randy Johnson… 

Standard Pitching

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Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
1892 24 PIT NL 0 0 11.25 1 0 1 0 0 0 4.0 10 6 5 0 2 0 0 0 0 24 33 3.000 22.5 0.0 4.5 0.0 0.00
1893 25 LOU NL 8 7 .533 4.24 15 15 0 14 1 0 129.1 150 95 61 3 40 30 3 0 5 576 103 1.469 10.4 0.2 2.8 2.1 0.75
1894 26 TOT NL 13 25 .342 4.68 41 37 4 33 1 0 323.1 417 248 168 7 89 76 11 0 4 1449 110 1.565 11.6 0.2 2.5 2.1 0.85
1894 26 LOU NL 8 17 .320 4.29 28 24 4 20 1 0 211.2 258 153 101 4 50 43 9 0 3 927 119 1.455 11.0 0.2 2.1 1.8 0.86
1894 26 PIT NL 5 8 .385 5.40 13 13 0 13 0 0 111.2 159 95 67 3 39 33 2 0 1 522 97 1.773 12.8 0.2 3.1 2.7 0.85
1895 27 PIT NL 0 1 .000 16.20 2 1 1 0 0 0 1.2 2 8 3 0 7 0 1 0 0 15 34 5.400 10.8 0.0 37.8 0.0 0.00
1898 30 NYG NL 0 1 .000 4.82 1 1 0 1 0 0 9.1 11 8 5 0 2 3 2 0 0 42 75 1.393 10.6 0.0 1.9 2.9 1.50
1900 32 CHC NL 9 4 .692 3.85 16 13 3 11 0 0 117.0 140 74 50 1 35 30 10 0 0 518 94 1.496 10.8 0.1 2.7 2.3 0.86
1901 33 CHC NL 8 12 .400 3.80 21 20 1 19 0 0 182.1 201 102 77 4 34 55 6 0 3 764 86 1.289 9.9 0.2 1.7 2.7 1.62
1902 34 CHC NL 12 10 .545 2.42 22 21 1 20 3 0 197.1 201 81 53 1 26 60 6 0 4 794 112 1.150 9.2 0.0 1.2 2.7 2.31
1903 35 CHC NL 8 10 .444 3.00 20 17 3 13 1 0 147.0 157 85 49 3 38 39 6 0 3 615 105 1.327 9.6 0.2 2.3 2.4 1.03
9 Seasons 58 70 .453 3.81 139 125 14 111 6 0 1111.1 1289 707 471 19 273 293 45 0 19 4797 102 1.406 10.4 0.2 2.2 2.4 1.07
162 Game Avg. 15 18 .453 3.81 36 32 4 29 2 0 286 332 182 121 5 70 75 12 0 5 1236 102 1.406 10.4 0.2 2.2 2.4 1.07
CHC (4 yrs) 37 36 .507 3.20 79 71 8 63 4 0 643.2 699 342 229 9 133 184 28 0 10 2691 98 1.293 9.8 0.1 1.9 2.6 1.38
PIT (3 yrs) 5 9 .357 5.75 16 14 2 13 0 0 117.1 171 109 75 3 48 33 3 0 1 561 90 1.866 13.1 0.2 3.7 2.5 0.69
LOU (2 yrs) 16 24 .400 4.28 43 39 4 34 2 0 341.0 408 248 162 7 90 73 12 0 8 1503 113 1.460 10.8 0.2 2.4 1.9 0.81
NYG (1 yr) 0 1 .000 4.82 1 1 0 1 0 0 9.1 11 8 5 0 2 3 2 0 0 42 75 1.393 10.6 0.0 1.9 2.9 1.50

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR: 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Strtr, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl.
Year Age Tm Lg IP GS R Rrep Rdef aLI RAR WAR Salary Awards
1892 24 PIT NL 4.0 0 6 3 0 1.0 -3 -0.3 $
1893 25 LOU NL 129.1 15 95 107 -2 1.0 12 0.7 $
1894 26 LOU NL 211.2 24 153 201 -3 1.0 48 3.1 $
1894 26 PIT NL 111.2 13 95 106 0 1.0 11 0.6 $
1895 27 PIT NL 1.2 1 8 1 0 1.0 -7 -0.5 $
1898 30 NYG NL 9.1 1 8 6 0 1.0 -2 -0.2 $
1900 32 CHC NL 117.0 13 74 78 -1 1.0 4 0.3 $
1901 33 CHC NL 182.1 20 102 107 -1 1.0 5 0.3 $
1902 34 CHC NL 197.1 21 81 99 3 1.0 18 1.4 $
1903 35 CHC NL 147.0 17 85 90 1 1.0 5 0.0 $
9 Seasons 1111.1 125 707 798 -3 1.0 91 5.4 $
CHC (4 yrs) 643.2 71 342 374 2 1.0 32 2.0 $
PIT (3 yrs) 117.1 14 109 110 0 1.0 1 -0.2 $
LOU (2 yrs) 341.0 39 248 308 -5 1.0 60 3.8 $
NYG (1 yr) 9.1 1 8 6 0 1.0 -2 -0.2 $

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1892 24 PIT NL 2 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 /O1
1893 25 LOU NL 22 87 73 10 20 2 1 0 12 2 13 5 .274 .391 .329 .720 98 24 1 1/O
1894 26 TOT NL 42 148 126 13 25 2 2 0 11 4 11 10 .198 .268 .246 .514 27 31 1 10 1/4
1894 26 LOU NL 29 96 79 7 13 1 0 0 4 2 8 7 .165 .250 .177 .427 7 14 1 8 1/4
1894 26 PIT NL 13 52 47 6 12 1 2 0 7 2 3 3 .255 .300 .362 .662 59 17 0 2 1
1895 27 PIT NL 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 /1
1898 30 NYG NL 1 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 /1
1900 32 CHC NL 17 52 46 5 5 0 0 0 4 0 2 1 .109 .180 .109 .289 -18 5 2 2 1
1901 33 CHC NL 48 175 152 19 39 5 3 0 13 4 8 18 .257 .327 .329 .656 94 50 8 7 O1/34
1902 34 CHC NL 65 252 216 24 50 4 1 0 15 4 15 32 .231 .303 .259 .562 75 56 7 14 O13/54
1903 35 CHC NL 22 69 64 3 13 3 0 0 2 0 3 10 .203 .239 .250 .489 41 16 0 2 1/3
9 Seasons 221 791 685 74 152 16 7 0 57 14 52 76 .222 .295 .266 .561 60 182 19 35
162 Game Avg. 162 580 502 54 111 12 5 0 42 10 38 56 .222 .295 .266 .561 60 133 14
CHC (4 yrs) 152 548 478 51 107 12 4 0 34 8 28 61 .224 .291 .266 .556 67 127 17 25
PIT (3 yrs) 17 55 50 6 12 1 2 0 7 2 3 3 .240 .283 .340 .623 52 17 0 2
LOU (2 yrs) 51 183 152 17 33 3 1 0 16 4 21 12 .217 .320 .250 .570 50 38 2 8
NYG (1 yr) 1 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0

Player Value--Batters

WAR: 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Strtr, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl.
Year Age Tm Lg PA Rbat Rbaser Rroe Rdp Rfield Rpos Rrep RAR WAR oRAR oWAR dWAR Salary Pos Awards
1892 24 PIT NL 3 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 -0.1 -1 -0.1 0.0 $ /O1
1893 25 LOU NL 87 2 -1 0 0 0 2 3 6 0.6 6 0.5 0.1 $ 1/O
1894 26 LOU NL 96 -13 -1 0 0 0 4 3 -7 -0.3 -7 -0.5 0.2 $ 1/4
1894 26 PIT NL 52 -4 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0.1 0 0.0 0.1 $ 1
1898 30 NYG NL 5 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 -0.1 -1 -0.1 0.0 $ /1
1900 32 CHC NL 52 -7 0 0 0 0 2 2 -3 -0.3 -3 -0.3 0.0 $ 1
1901 33 CHC NL 175 -1 0 0 0 -1 1 5 4 0.4 5 0.5 -0.1 $ O1/34
1902 34 CHC NL 252 -5 -1 0 0 0 1 7 2 0.1 2 0.2 -0.1 $2,700 O13/54
1903 35 CHC NL 69 -5 -1 0 0 0 3 2 -1 -0.1 -1 -0.1 0.0 $ 1/3
8 Seasons 791 -35 -4 0 0 -1 15 24 -1 0.3 0 0.1 0.2 $2,700
CHC (4 yrs) 548 -18 -2 0 0 -1 7 16 2 0.1 3 0.3 -0.2 $2,700
LOU (2 yrs) 183 -11 -2 0 0 0 6 6 -1 0.3 -1 0.0 0.3 $
PIT (2 yrs) 55 -5 0 0 0 0 2 2 -1 0.0 -1 -0.1 0.1 $
NYG (1 yr) 5 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 -0.1 -1 -0.1 0.0 $

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
1892 PIT NL 24 OF 1 1 1 0 0 0 1.000 1.00 .910 1.90 0-0-1
1892 PIT NL 24 P 1 4.0 2 0 2 0 0 1.000 4.50 2.00 .900 2.48 2.40
1893 LOU NL 25 P 15 129.1 46 6 36 4 1 .913 2.92 2.80 .913 2.50 2.45
1893 LOU NL 25 OF 7 16 13 2 1 1 .938 2.14 .915 2.19 1-2-4
1894 TOT NL 26 P 41 323.4 111 28 75 8 0 .928 2.87 2.51 .912 2.18 2.09
1894 LOU NL 26 P 28 211.2 67 18 45 4 0 .940 2.68 2.25 .912 2.18 2.09
1894 LOU NL 26 2B 1 6 2 4 0 0 1.000 6.00 .928 5.80
1894 PIT NL 26 P 13 111.2 44 10 30 4 0 .909 3.22 3.08 .912 2.18 2.09
1895 PIT NL 27 P 2 1.2 3 1 1 1 0 .667 10.80 1.00 .917 2.70 2.40
1898 NYG NL 30 P 1 9.1 4 0 3 1 0 .750 2.89 3.00 .918 2.60 2.60
1900 CHC NL 32 P 16 117.0 27 3 21 3 1 .889 1.85 1.50 .921 2.67 2.59
1901 CHC NL 33 OF 24 46 39 3 4 1 .913 1.75 .942 2.06 5-1-18
1901 CHC NL 33 P 21 182.1 61 13 44 4 0 .934 2.81 2.71 .934 2.75 2.72
1901 CHC NL 33 1B 2 19 15 0 4 1 .789 7.50 .978 10.25
1901 CHC NL 33 2B 1 1 0 1 0 0 1.000 1.00 .940 5.10
1902 CHC NL 34 OF 23 42 38 2 2 1 .952 1.74 .945 1.97 1-0-21
1902 CHC NL 34 P 22 197.1 61 13 45 3 2 .951 2.65 2.64 .933 2.72 2.68
1902 CHC NL 34 1B 18 190 177 7 6 4 .968 10.22 .981 10.57
1902 CHC NL 34 3B 2 3 1 1 1 0 .667 1.00 .913 3.50
1902 CHC NL 34 2B 1 4 1 2 1 0 .750 3.00 .948 5.40
1903 CHC NL 35 P 20 147.0 77 13 56 8 0 .896 4.22 3.45 .924 2.87 2.81
1903 CHC NL 35 1B 2 18 18 0 0 0 1.000 9.00 .977 10.55
9 Seasons P 139 1111.1 392 77 283 32 4 .918 2.92 2.59 .922 2.56 2.49
4 Seasons OF 55 105 91 7 7 3 .933 1.78 .939 2.03 7-3-44
3 Seasons 1B 22 227 210 7 10 5 .956 9.86 .980 10.54
3 Seasons 2B 3 11 3 7 1 0 .909 3.33 .936 5.43
1 Season 3B 2 3 1 1 1 0 .667 1.00 .913 3.50
9 Seasons TOT 221 1111.1 738 382 305 51 12 .931 2.92 3.11 .942 2.56 3.23 7-3-44
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
Note: Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1950 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1950 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1950 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1919 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1950 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1919) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1950 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Walks & Hits per IP s c a p y
1894 NL  1.565 (9th)

Bases On Balls per 9 IP s c a p y
1894 NL  2.477 (2nd)
1901 NL  1.678 (9th)
1902 NL  1.186 (3rd)
1903 NL  2.327 (9th)
Career  2.211 (163rd)

Shutouts s c a p y
1893 NL  1 (9th)
1894 NL  1 (7th)

Strikeouts / Base On Balls s c a p y
1894 NL  0.854 (5th)
1902 NL  2.308 (6th)

Home Runs per 9 IP s c a p y
1894 NL  0.195 (4th)
1902 NL  0.046 (10th)
Career  0.154 (104th)

Losses s c a p y
1894 NL  25 (2nd)

Putouts as P s c a p y
1894 NL  28 (5th)

Range Factor/9Inn as P† s c a p y
1894 NL  2.87 (2nd)

Range Factor/Game as P s c a p y
1894 NL  2.51 (2nd)

Oldest s c a p y
1903 NL  born 1868-01-15 (10th)

                           

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkPitching - 10 (1465), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame MonitorPitching - 1 (1948), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsPitching - 5 (1383), Average HOFer ≈ 50

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Transactions

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Salaries

Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses
Year Age Team Salary Sources Notes
190234Chicago Orphans$2,70011/23/01 Sporting Life
Career to date (may be incomplete)$2,700
Salary Data (about) courtesy Doug Pappas, and the Society for American Baseball Research.
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