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Hans Lobert

John Bernard Lobert (Honus)

Positions: Third Baseman and Shortstop
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 9", Weight: 170 lb.

Born: October 18, 1881 in Wilmington, DE
School: Carnegie Mellon University (Pittsburgh, PA)
Signed
by the Pittsburgh Pirates as an amateur free agent in 1903. (All Transactions)
Debut: September 21, 1903 (Age 21.338)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1906 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Reds/Phillies/Giants/Cubs/Pirates 1903-1917

Final Game: October 3, 1917 (Age 35.350)
Died: September 14, 1968 in Philadelphia, PA
Buried: Philadelphia Memorial Park, Frazer, PA
Relatives: Brother of Frank Lobert, Cousin of Joe Schultz and Cousin of Joe Schultz
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Fine Details  · Last updated Jul 30, 2014 11:17PM
All-Time Rank (among batters): #759. Mark Ellis… #760. Gee Walker… #761. Scott Fletcher… #762. HANS LOBERT… #763. Joe Start… #764. Jose Vidro… #765. Earl Sheely… 

Standard Batting

More Stats

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1903 21 PIT NL 5 15 13 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 .077 .143 .154 .297 -17 2 0 1 /546
1905 23 CHC NL 14 56 46 7 9 2 0 0 1 4 3 6 .196 .260 .239 .499 46 11 1 6 5/O
1906 24 CIN NL 79 305 268 39 83 5 5 0 19 20 19 25 .310 .366 .366 .732 125 98 5 13 564/O
1907 25 CIN NL 148 605 537 61 132 9 12 1 41 30 37 44 .246 .299 .313 .612 89 168 4 27 *6/5
1908 26 CIN NL 155 650 570 71 167 17 18 4 63 47 46 44 .293 .348 .407 .755 143 232 2 32 56O
1909 27 CIN NL 122 495 425 50 90 13 5 4 52 30 48 26 .212 .304 .294 .598 86 125 8 14 *5
1910 28 CIN NL 93 364 314 43 97 6 6 3 40 41 30 9 .309 .369 .395 .764 127 124 0 20 5
1911 29 PHI NL 147 650 541 94 154 20 9 9 72 40 66 31 .285 .368 .405 .772 116 219 5 38 *5 MVP-17
1912 30 PHI NL 65 286 257 37 84 12 5 2 33 13 19 13 .327 .373 .436 .809 116 112 0 10 5
1913 31 PHI NL 150 646 573 98 172 28 11 7 55 41 21 42 34 .300 .353 .424 .777 118 243 5 26 *5/64
1914 32 PHI NL 135 581 505 83 139 24 5 1 52 31 49 32 .275 .343 .349 .691 101 176 3 24 *5/6
1915 33 NYG NL 106 431 386 46 97 18 4 0 38 14 15 25 24 .251 .304 .319 .622 92 123 4 15 *5
1916 34 NYG NL 48 84 76 6 17 3 2 0 11 2 5 8 .224 .272 .316 .587 85 24 0 4 5
1917 35 NYG NL 50 59 52 4 10 1 0 1 5 2 5 5 .192 .276 .269 .545 70 14 1 1 5
14 Yrs 1317 5227 4563 640 1252 159 82 32 482 316 36 395 302 .274 .337 .366 .703 109 1671 38 231
162 Game Avg. 162 643 561 79 154 20 10 4 59 39 49 37 .274 .337 .366 .703 109 206 5 28
CIN (5 yrs) 597 2419 2114 264 569 50 46 12 215 168 180 148 .269 .332 .353 .685 113 747 19 106
PHI (4 yrs) 497 2163 1876 312 549 84 30 19 212 125 21 176 110 .293 .357 .400 .757 112 750 13 98
NYG (3 yrs) 204 574 514 56 124 22 6 1 54 18 15 35 37 .241 .296 .313 .609 88 161 5 20
PIT (1 yr) 5 15 13 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 .077 .143 .154 .297 -17 2 0 1
CHC (1 yr) 14 56 46 7 9 2 0 0 1 4 3 6 .196 .260 .239 .499 46 11 1 6

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1903 21 PIT NL 5 15 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 -0.2 0 -1 -0.1 .463 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1 /546
1905 23 CHC NL 14 56 -3 1 0 0 0 -2 -0.2 2 -0 -0.1 .482 .498 -0.1 0.0 -0 5/O
1906 24 CIN NL 79 305 7 0 0 0 3 11 1.2 10 21 2.3 .516 .508 2.4 0.3 21 564/O
1907 25 CIN NL 148 605 -7 1 0 -7 10 -4 -0.6 20 16 1.6 .497 .497 2.6 0.3 23 *6/5
1908 26 CIN NL 155 650 25 4 0 -10 5 23 2.8 21 44 5.1 .519 .518 6.4 -0.7 54 56O
1909 27 CIN NL 122 495 -4 2 0 -10 4 -8 -0.9 16 8 0.8 .492 .494 1.9 -0.6 18 *5
1910 28 CIN NL 93 364 11 5 0 -3 3 17 1.9 11 28 3.0 .520 .511 3.3 0.0 31 5
1911 29 PHI NL 147 650 14 1 0 -8 5 12 1.1 20 32 3.1 .508 .508 4.1 -0.4 40 *5 MVP-17
1912 30 PHI NL 65 286 6 -0 0 -2 2 5 0.5 9 14 1.4 .508 .503 1.6 -0.0 16 5
1913 31 PHI NL 150 646 13 3 0 -4 5 17 1.9 20 37 3.9 .512 .511 4.3 0.2 41 *5/64
1914 32 PHI NL 135 581 1 1 0 -17 5 -10 -1.3 17 7 0.5 .491 .493 2.5 -1.5 24 *5/6
1915 33 NYG NL 106 431 -3 -1 0 -1 3 -2 -0.3 13 12 1.2 .498 .499 1.4 0.2 13 *5
1916 34 NYG NL 48 84 -1 -0 0 1 1 0 0.1 3 3 0.3 .501 .500 0.2 0.2 2 5
1917 35 NYG NL 50 59 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 -0.1 2 1 0.1 .498 .499 0.1 0.1 1 5
14 Seasons 1317 5227 56 16 0 -61 47 57 5.8 163 220 22.9 .505 .504 30.6 -1.9 281
CIN (5 yrs) 597 2419 32 12 0 -30 25 39 4.5 77 117 12.7 .508 .506 16.6 -0.7 146
PHI (4 yrs) 497 2163 35 4 0 -31 17 24 2.1 65 89 8.8 .505 .504 12.5 -1.8 121
NYG (3 yrs) 204 574 -6 -1 0 0 5 -2 -0.4 18 16 1.6 .499 .499 1.6 0.5 15
PIT (1 yr) 5 15 -2 0 0 0 0 -2 -0.2 0 -1 -0.1 .463 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1
CHC (1 yr) 14 56 -3 1 0 0 0 -2 -0.2 2 -0 -0.1 .482 .498 -0.1 0.0 -0

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
1903 PIT NL 21 3B 3 9 3 4 2 0 .778 2.33 .913 3.43
1903 PIT NL 21 2B 1 7 3 3 1 1 .857 6.00 .939 5.20
1903 PIT NL 21 SS 1 1 0 1 0 0 1.000 1.00 .910 5.50
1905 CHC NL 23 3B 13 49 20 25 4 2 .918 3.46 .921 3.20
1905 CHC NL 23 OF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.00 0-1-0
1906 CIN NL 24 3B 35 121 47 69 5 4 .959 3.31 .931 3.23
1906 CIN NL 24 SS 31 142 49 80 13 4 .908 4.16 .933 5.39
1906 CIN NL 24 2B 10 52 21 29 2 0 .962 5.00 .947 5.02
1906 CIN NL 24 OF 1 1 1 0 0 0 1.000 1.00 .960 1.90 0-1-0
1907 CIN NL 25 SS 142 724 299 382 43 53 .941 4.80 .932 5.18
1907 CIN NL 25 3B 5 25 12 10 3 0 .880 4.40 .928 3.36
1908 CIN NL 26 3B 99 328 121 181 26 11 .921 3.05 .932 3.31
1908 CIN NL 26 SS 35 164 64 87 13 5 .921 4.31 .930 5.30
1908 CIN NL 26 OF 21 42 37 2 3 0 .929 1.86 .960 2.04 21-0-0
1909 CIN NL 27 3B 122 419 182 204 33 16 .921 3.16 .930 3.31
1910 CIN NL 28 3B 90 308 123 164 21 11 .932 3.19 .932 3.17
1911 PHI NL 29 3B 147 435 202 213 20 13 .954 2.82 .936 3.14 MVP-17
1912 PHI NL 30 3B 64 170 80 86 4 3 .976 2.59 .935 3.15
1913 PHI NL 31 3B 145 417 181 225 11 13 .974 2.80 .935 3.12
1913 PHI NL 31 SS 3 4 1 3 0 0 1.000 1.33 .938 5.33
1913 PHI NL 31 2B 1 2 2 0 0 0 1.000 2.00 .955 5.30
1914 PHI NL 32 3B 133 131 128 384 188 174 22 10 .943 2.72 .931 3.20
1914 PHI NL 32 SS 2 2 2 10 6 4 0 0 1.000 5.00 .925 5.40
1915 NYG NL 33 3B 103 103 101 317 109 192 16 9 .950 2.92 .947 3.13
1916 NYG NL 34 3B 20 13 13 51 14 35 2 2 .961 2.45 .938 3.18
1917 NYG NL 35 3B 21 4 3 32 10 19 3 2 .906 1.38 .942 3.24
14 Seasons 3B 1000 251 245 3065 1292 1601 172 96 .944 2.89 .934 3.19
6 Seasons SS 214 2 2 1045 419 557 69 62 .934 4.56 .932 5.24
3 Seasons OF 23 43 38 2 3 0 .930 1.74 .960 2.03 21-2-0
3 Seasons 2B 12 61 26 32 3 1 .951 4.83 .946 5.06
14 Seasons TOT 1249 253 247 4214 1775 2192 247 159 .941 3.18 .934 3.54 21-2-0
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Hall of Fame
1937 BBWAA ( 1.0%)
1938 BBWAA ( 0.4%)
1939 BBWAA ( 0.7%)
1960 BBWAA ( 0.4%)

MVP (yr lg (rk, shr))
1911 NL (17, 6%)
0.06 Career Shares (1081st)

WAR Position Playerss c a p y
1908 NL  5.1 (7th)
1913 NL  3.9 (7th)

Offensive WARs c a p y
1908 NL  6.5 (2nd)
1911 NL  4.1 (8th)
1913 NL  4.3 (4th)

Batting Average s c a p y
1908 NL  .293 (6th)
1910 NL  .309 (6th)

Slugging % s c a p y
1908 NL  .407 (4th)

On-Base Plus Slugging s c a p y
1908 NL  .755 (6th)

Games Played s c a p y
1907 NL  148 (10th)
1908 NL  155 (5th)
1913 NL  150 (8th)

At Bats s c a p y
1908 NL  570 (8th)
1913 NL  573 (7th)

Plate Appearances s c a p y
1907 NL  605 (9th)
1908 NL  650 (6th)
1911 NL  650 (10th)
1913 NL  646 (6th)

Runs Scored s c a p y
1908 NL  71 (8th)
1911 NL  94 (10th)
1913 NL  98 (3rd)
1914 NL  83 (7th)

Hits s c a p y
1908 NL  167 (3rd)
1913 NL  172 (4th)

Total Bases s c a p y
1908 NL  232 (4th)
1913 NL  243 (4th)

Doubles s c a p y
1913 NL  28 (8th)

Triples s c a p y
1907 NL  12 (6th)
1908 NL  18 (2nd)

Home Runs s c a p y
1908 NL  4 (9th)
1909 NL  4 (6th)
1911 NL  9 (8th)
1913 NL  7 (10th)

Runs Batted In s c a p y
1908 NL  63 (6th)

Stolen Bases s c a p y
1908 NL  47 (3rd)
1910 NL  41 (6th)
1911 NL  40 (7th)
1913 NL  41 (3rd)
1914 NL  31 (9th)
Career  316 (148th)

Singles s c a p y
1908 NL  128 (3rd)
1913 NL  126 (6th)

Adjusted OPS+ s c a p y
1908 NL  143 (5th)

Runs Created s c a p y
1908 NL  80 (3rd)
1913 NL  83 (3rd)

Adj. Batting Runs s c a p y
1908 NL  25 (6th)

Adj. Batting Wins s c a p y
1908 NL  3.1 (6th)

Extra Base Hits s c a p y
1908 NL  39 (7th)
1913 NL  46 (8th)

Times On Base s c a p y
1908 NL  215 (7th)
1913 NL  219 (7th)

Offensive Win % s c a p y
1908 NL  .716 (6th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1909 NL  8 (8th)

Sacrifice Hits s c a p y
1907 NL  27 (6th)
1908 NL  32 (4th)
1911 NL  38 (1st)
1913 NL  26 (2nd)
1914 NL  24 (7th)
Career  231 (51st)

Caught Stealing s c a p y
1913 NL  21 (8th)

Power-Speed # s c a p y
1908 NL  7.4 (9th)
1909 NL  7.1 (7th)
1911 NL  14.7 (6th)
1913 NL  12.0 (7th)

AB per SO s c a p y
1910 NL  34.9 (1st)
1911 NL  17.5 (7th)
1914 NL  15.8 (10th)
1915 NL  16.1 (10th)

AB per HR s c a p y
1909 NL  106.3 (6th)
1910 NL  104.7 (10th)

Outs Made s c a p y
1907 NL  432 (7th)
1908 NL  435 (8th)
1911 NL  425 (10th)
1913 NL  448 (8th)

Def. Games as 3B s c a p y
1911 NL  147 (2nd)
1913 NL  145 (2nd)
1914 NL  133 (3rd)

Putouts as 3B s c a p y
1909 NL  182 (5th)
1911 NL  202 (1st)
1913 NL  181 (1st)
1914 NL  188 (2nd)
Career  1,292 (57th)

Assists as 3B s c a p y
1911 NL  213 (5th)
1913 NL  225 (4th)

Errors Committed as 3B s c a p y
1909 NL  33 (5th)
1911 NL  20 (4th)

Double Plays Turned as 3B s c a p y
1909 NL  16 (4th)
1913 NL  13 (5th)

Def. Games as SS s c a p y
1907 NL  142 (4th)

Putouts as SS s c a p y
1907 NL  299 (5th)

Double Plays Turned as SS s c a p y
1907 NL  53 (3rd)

Range Factor/Game as 3B s c a p y
1910 NL  3.19 (2nd)

Fielding % as 3B s c a p y
1911 NL  .954 (2nd)
1913 NL  .974 (1st)
1914 NL  .943 (1st)
1915 NL  .950 (4th)

Fielding % as SS s c a p y
1907 NL  .941 (3rd)

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkBatting - 68 (375), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame MonitorBatting - 2 (1970), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 16 (1004), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Third Base (96th), 22.9 career WAR/20.3 7yr-peak WAR/21.6 JAWS
Average HOF 3B (out of 13) = 67.4 career WAR/42.7 7yr-peak WAR/55.0 JAWS

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Name and misspellings: John Bernard Hans Honus Lobert

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