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Elmer Knetzer

Elmer Ellsworth Knetzer (Baron)

Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 10", Weight: 180 lb.

Born: July 22, 1885 in Carrick, PA (All Transactions)
Debut: September 11, 1909 (Age 24)
Rookie Status: Lost 1910 [*]
Teams (by GP): Rebels/Dodgers/Reds/Superbas/Braves 1909-1917

Final Game: June 18, 1917 (Age 31)
Died: October 3, 1975 in Pittsburgh, PA
Buried: St. Wendelin Cemetery, Brentwood, PA
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Standard Pitching

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Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards
1909 23 BRO NL 1 3 .250 3.03 5 4 0 3 0 0 35.2 33 22 12 2 22 7 0 0 1 153 87 4.40 1.542 8.3 0.5 5.6 1.8 0.32
1910 24 BRO NL 7 5 .583 3.19 20 15 4 10 3 0 132.2 122 63 47 1 60 56 1 0 7 540 95 2.96 1.372 8.3 0.1 4.1 3.8 0.93
1911 25 BRO NL 11 12 .478 3.49 35 20 11 11 3 0 204.0 202 101 79 1 93 66 1 0 3 824 95 3.57 1.446 8.9 0.0 4.1 2.9 0.71
1912 26 BRO NL 7 9 .438 4.55 33 16 10 4 1 0 140.1 135 86 71 6 70 61 4 1 5 615 73 4.12 1.461 8.7 0.4 4.5 3.9 0.87
1914 28 PBS FL 20 12 .625 2.88 37 30 6 20 3 1 272.0 257 123 87 9 88 146 2 0 2 1103 109 2.79 1.268 8.5 0.3 2.9 4.8 1.66
1915 29 PBS FL 18 14 .563 2.58 41 33 8 22 3 3 279.0 256 105 80 5 89 120 1 0 4 1111 118 2.75 1.237 8.3 0.2 2.9 3.9 1.35
1916 30 TOT NL 5 14 .263 3.01 38 16 14 12 0 1 176.1 172 85 59 6 50 72 3 0 4 736 86 2.84 1.259 8.8 0.3 2.6 3.7 1.44
1916 30 BSN NL 0 2 .000 7.20 2 0 1 0 0 0 5.0 11 9 4 0 2 2 0 0 1 24 38 2.72 2.600 19.8 0.0 3.6 3.6 1.00
1916 30 CIN NL 5 12 .294 2.89 36 16 13 12 0 1 171.1 161 76 55 6 48 70 3 0 3 712 90 2.85 1.220 8.5 0.3 2.5 3.7 1.46
1917 31 CIN NL 0 0 2.96 11 0 6 0 0 1 27.1 29 18 9 0 12 7 2 0 1 128 90 3.29 1.500 9.5 0.0 4.0 2.3 0.58
8 Yrs 69 69 .500 3.15 220 134 59 82 13 6 1267.1 1206 603 444 30 484 535 14 1 27 5210 97 3.13 1.334 8.6 0.2 3.4 3.8 1.11
162 Game Avg. 13 13 .500 3.15 42 26 11 16 2 1 243 232 116 85 6 93 103 3 0 5 1001 97 3.13 1.334 8.6 0.2 3.4 3.8 1.11
BRO (4 yrs) 26 29 .473 3.67 93 55 25 28 7 0 512.2 492 272 209 10 245 190 6 1 16 2132 87 3.62 1.438 8.6 0.2 4.3 3.3 0.78
CIN (2 yrs) 5 12 .294 2.90 47 16 19 12 0 2 198.2 190 94 64 6 60 77 5 0 4 840 90 2.91 1.258 8.6 0.3 2.7 3.5 1.28
PBS (2 yrs) 38 26 .594 2.73 78 63 14 42 6 4 551.0 513 228 167 14 177 266 3 0 6 2214 113 2.77 1.252 8.4 0.2 2.9 4.3 1.50
BSN (1 yr) 0 2 .000 7.20 2 0 1 0 0 0 5.0 11 9 4 0 2 2 0 0 1 24 38 2.72 2.600 19.8 0.0 3.6 3.6 1.00
NL (6 yrs) 31 43 .419 3.48 142 71 45 40 7 2 716.1 693 375 277 16 307 269 11 1 21 2996 87 3.41 1.396 8.7 0.2 3.9 3.4 0.88
FL (2 yrs) 38 26 .594 2.73 78 63 14 42 6 4 551.0 513 228 167 14 177 266 3 0 6 2214 113 2.77 1.252 8.4 0.2 2.9 4.3 1.50

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1909 23 BRO NL 35.2 5 4 22 5.55 3.77 -0.29 0.00 100.0 4.06 -6 -0.7 1.0 -0.0 -0.4 -3 .370 .496
1910 24 BRO NL 132.2 20 15 63 4.27 4.15 -0.13 0.00 100.0 4.28 -0 -0.0 1.0 -0.1 1.0 10 .498 .500
1911 25 BRO NL 204.0 35 20 101 4.46 4.55 0.05 0.00 98.0 4.41 1 0.1 1.0 -0.2 1.6 16 .502 .500
1912 26 BRO NL 140.1 33 16 86 5.52 4.67 -0.06 0.00 98.0 4.63 -13 -1.3 1.0 -0.1 -0.2 -2 .461 .492
1914 28 PBS FL 272.0 37 30 123 4.07 4.13 -0.24 0.00 99.0 4.33 5 0.6 1.0 -0.2 1.6 18 .515 .503
1915 29 PBS FL 279.0 41 33 105 3.39 3.86 0.05 0.00 99.0 3.77 12 1.5 1.0 -0.2 2.6 22 .536 .509
1916 30 BSN NL 5.0 2 0 9 16.20 3.91 0.24 0.00 89.2 3.27 -7 -0.6 1.0 -0.0 -0.6 -7 .198 .496
1916 30 CIN NL 171.2 36 16 76 3.98 3.50 -0.07 0.00 100.0 3.57 -8 -1.0 1.0 -0.1 0.3 3 .471 .494
1917 31 CIN NL 27.1 11 0 18 5.93 3.44 -0.17 0.00 96.2 3.48 -8 -0.9 1.0 -0.0 -0.6 -6 .421 .495
8 Seasons 1267.2 220 134 603 4.28 4.09 -0.07 0.00 98.9 4.12 -25 -2.4 1.0 -0.9 5.2 51 .489 .500
BRO (4 yrs) 512.2 93 55 272 4.78 4.42 -0.05 0.00 98.7 4.41 -19 -1.9 1.0 -0.5 2.0 21 .480 .497
CIN (2 yrs) 199.0 47 16 94 4.25 3.49 -0.08 0.00 99.5 3.56 -16 -1.9 1.0 -0.1 -0.4 -3 .459 .494
PBS (2 yrs) 551.0 78 63 228 3.72 3.99 -0.09 0.00 99.0 4.05 17 2.0 1.0 -0.3 4.2 40 .526 .506
BSN (1 yr) 5.0 2 0 9 16.20 3.91 0.24 0.00 89.2 3.27 -7 -0.6 1.0 -0.0 -0.6 -7 .198 .496

Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1909 23 BRO NL 5 12 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 /1
1910 24 BRO NL 20 47 38 5 2 0 0 0 0 1 4 16 .053 .182 .053 .234 -30 2 2 3 1
1911 25 BRO NL 35 70 62 2 6 0 1 0 1 0 2 34 .097 .138 .129 .267 -23 8 1 5 1
1912 26 BRO NL 33 46 37 2 5 0 0 0 2 0 4 14 .135 .238 .135 .373 5 5 1 4 1
1914 28 PBS FL 37 100 91 6 9 1 0 0 3 0 1 35 .099 .109 .110 .219 -37 10 0 9 1
1915 29 PBS FL 41 102 91 8 12 1 0 0 2 0 1 27 .132 .151 .143 .293 -14 13 1 8 1
1916 30 TOT NL 39 56 52 0 8 0 1 0 2 0 0 18 .154 .170 .192 .362 12 10 1 4 1
1916 30 BSN NL 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 0 1 0 /1
1916 30 CIN NL 37 55 52 0 8 0 1 0 2 0 0 18 .154 .154 .192 .346 7 10 0 4 1
1917 31 CIN NL 11 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 1
8 Yrs 221 436 386 23 42 2 2 0 10 1 12 151 .109 .149 .124 .273 -20 48 6 33
162 Game Avg. 162 320 283 17 31 1 1 0 7 1 9 111 .109 .149 .124 .273 -20 35 4 24
BRO (4 yrs) 93 175 149 9 13 0 1 0 3 1 10 71 .087 .166 .101 .266 -23 15 4 12
PBS (2 yrs) 78 202 182 14 21 2 0 0 5 0 2 62 .115 .130 .126 .256 -26 23 1 17
CIN (2 yrs) 48 58 55 0 8 0 1 0 2 0 0 18 .145 .145 .182 .327 1 10 0 4
BSN (1 yr) 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 0 1 0
NL (6 yrs) 143 234 204 9 21 0 2 0 5 1 10 89 .103 .164 .123 .287 -15 25 5 16
FL (2 yrs) 78 202 182 14 21 2 0 0 5 0 2 62 .115 .130 .126 .256 -26 23 1 17

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1909 23 BRO NL 5 12 -3 0 0 0 1 -2 -0.2 0 -2 -0.2 .457 .499 -0.2 0.0 -2 /1
1910 24 BRO NL 20 47 -7 0 0 0 3 -3 -0.4 0 -3 -0.4 .481 .498 -0.4 0.0 -3 1
1911 25 BRO NL 35 70 -12 0 0 0 6 -5 -0.6 0 -5 -0.6 .484 .496 -0.6 -0.0 -5 1
1912 26 BRO NL 33 46 -5 0 0 0 4 -2 -0.2 0 -2 -0.2 .495 .499 -0.2 -0.0 -2 1
1914 28 PBS FL 37 100 -17 0 0 0 9 -9 -0.9 0 -9 -0.9 .474 .494 -1.0 0.0 -9 1
1915 29 PBS FL 41 102 -14 0 0 0 8 -6 -0.7 0 -6 -0.7 .484 .496 -0.7 0.0 -6 1
1916 30 BSN NL 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0 0 0.1 .523 .500 0.1 0.0 0 /1
1916 30 CIN NL 37 55 -6 0 0 0 4 -1 -0.2 0 -1 -0.2 .495 .499 -0.2 0.0 -1 1
1917 31 CIN NL 11 3 -1 0 0 0 0 -0 -0.1 0 -0 -0.1 .496 .500 -0.1 0.0 -0 1
8 Seasons 221 436 -63 1 0 0 35 -28 -3.1 0 -28 -3.1 .486 .497 -3.1 0.0 -28
BRO (4 yrs) 93 175 -26 0 0 0 14 -12 -1.3 0 -12 -1.3 .486 .498 -1.3 -0.0 -12
PBS (2 yrs) 78 202 -31 0 0 0 16 -14 -1.6 0 -14 -1.6 .479 .495 -1.7 0.1 -14
CIN (2 yrs) 48 58 -6 0 0 0 4 -2 -0.2 0 -2 -0.2 .495 .499 -0.2 0.0 -2
BSN (1 yr) 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0 0 0.1 .523 .500 0.1 0.0 0

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG Awards
1909 BRO NL 23 P 5 35.2 17 2 14 1 0 .941 4.04 3.20 .940 2.83 2.84
1910 BRO NL 24 P 20 132.2 39 3 32 4 0 .897 2.37 1.75 .945 2.82 2.80
1911 BRO NL 25 P 35 204.0 61 7 51 3 2 .951 2.56 1.66 .943 2.77 2.74
1912 BRO NL 26 P 33 140.1 40 4 34 2 0 .950 2.44 1.15 .948 2.54 2.52
1914 PBS FL 28 P 37 30 20 272.0 100 6 88 6 2 .940 3.11 2.54 .947 3.04 3.00
1915 PBS FL 29 P 41 33 22 279.0 95 12 80 3 2 .968 2.97 2.24 .956 3.08 3.05
1916 TOT NL 30 P 38 16 12 176.1 70 5 63 2 1 .971 3.47 1.79 .959 2.67 2.67
1916 BSN NL 30 P 2 0 0 5.0 4 0 4 0 0 1.000 7.20 2.00 .960 2.70 2.65
1916 CIN NL 30 P 36 16 12 171.1 66 5 59 2 1 .970 3.36 1.78 .959 2.67 2.67
1917 CIN NL 31 P 11 0 0 27.1 12 2 9 1 0 .917 3.62 1.00 .961 2.83 2.86
8 Seasons P 220 79 54 1267.1 434 41 371 22 7 .949 2.93 1.87 .950 2.87 2.81
8 Seasons TOT 220 79 54 1267.1 434 41 371 22 7 .949 2.93 1.87 .950 2.87 2.81
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
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Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
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Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Earned Run Average s c a p y
Career  3.15 (229th)

Wins s c a p y
1914 FL  20 (7th)

Win-Loss % s c a p y
1914 FL  .625 (7th)

Strikeouts per 9 IP s c a p y
1914 FL  4.831 (7th)

Saves s c a p y
1915 FL  3 (8th)

Innings Pitched s c a p y
1915 FL  279.0 (10th)

Strikeouts s c a p y
1914 FL  146 (9th)
1915 FL  120 (9th)

Games Started s c a p y
1915 FL  33 (8th)

Complete Games s c a p y
1915 FL  22 (8th)

Shutouts s c a p y
1911 NL  3 (9th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1914 FL  9 (3rd)
1916 NL  6 (8th)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1914 FL  88 (9th)
1915 FL  89 (9th)

Hits s c a p y
1915 FL  256 (10th)

Home Runs per 9 IP s c a p y
1911 NL  0.044 (2nd)
Career  0.213 (184th)

Wild Pitches s c a p y
1910 NL  7 (7th)

Games Finished s c a p y
1916 NL  14 (8th)

Fielding Independent Pitching s c a p y
Career  3.13 (180th)

Range Factor/9Inn as Ps c a p y
1916 NL  3.47 (4th)

                           

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkPitching - 25 (950), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame MonitorPitching - 12 (893), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsPitching - 9 (953), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Starting Pitcher (1487th), 2.1 career WAR/2.8 7yr-peak WAR/2.5 JAWS
Average HOF P (out of 59) = 73.4 career WAR/50.2 7yr-peak WAR/61.8 JAWS

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Name and misspellings: Elmer Baron Ellsworth Elmer Knetzer

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