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John Kelly

John Francis Kelly (Honest John or Father)

Positions: Catcher and Rightfielder
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 0", Weight: 185 lb.

Born: March 3, 1859 in Paterson, NJ (All Transactions)
Debut: June 7, 1879 (Age 20.096)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1883 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Orioles/Reds/Blues/Nationals/Quakers 1879-1884

Final Game: October 19, 1884 (Age 25.230)
Died: April 13, 1908 in Paterson, NJ
Buried: Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Totowa, NJ
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Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1879 20 CLV NL 1 4 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 .500 64 1 /32
1882 23 CLV NL 30 105 104 6 14 2 0 0 5 1 24 .135 .143 .154 .297 -3 16 2
1883 24 TOT MLB 49 208 205 18 46 9 2 0 0 3 .224 .236 .288 .523 66 59 2O
1883 24 BAL AA 48 205 202 18 46 9 2 0 3 .228 .239 .292 .531 69 59 2O
1883 24 PHI NL 1 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 /O
1884 25 TOT UA 42 162 156 24 45 6 1 1 6 .288 .315 .359 .674 117 56 2/O
1884 25 COR UA 38 148 142 23 40 5 1 1 6 .282 .311 .352 .663 112 50 2/O
1884 25 WHS UA 4 14 14 1 5 1 0 0 0 .357 .357 .429 .786 166 6 /2O
4 Yrs 122 479 469 48 106 17 3 1 5 10 26 .226 .242 .281 .524 68 132
162 Game Avg. 162 636 623 64 141 23 4 1 7 13 .226 .242 .281 .524 68 175
CLV (2 yrs) 31 109 108 6 15 2 0 0 5 1 24 .139 .147 .157 .304 -1 17
WHS (1 yr) 4 14 14 1 5 1 0 0 0 .357 .357 .429 .786 166 6
COR (1 yr) 38 148 142 23 40 5 1 1 6 .282 .311 .352 .663 112 50
PHI (1 yr) 1 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0
BAL (1 yr) 48 205 202 18 46 9 2 0 3 .228 .239 .292 .531 69 59
NL (3 yrs) 32 112 111 6 15 2 0 0 5 1 26 .135 .143 .153 .296 -4 17
UA (1 yr) 42 162 156 24 45 6 1 1 6 .288 .315 .359 .674 117 56
AA (1 yr) 48 205 202 18 46 9 2 0 3 .228 .239 .292 .531 69 59

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1879 20 CLV NL 1 4 -0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 .496 .500 0.0 0.0 0 /32
1882 23 CLV NL 30 105 -13 0 0 -12 2 -23 -2.2 4 -20 -1.8 .428 .487 -0.7 -0.9 -8 2
1883 24 BAL AA 48 205 -7 0 0 -14 2 -20 -1.7 4 -15 -1.2 .464 .489 -0.0 -1.1 -1 2O
1883 24 PHI NL 1 3 -1 0 0 0 -0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .414 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1 /O
1884 25 COR UA 38 148 1 0 0 -6 2 -2 -0.1 0 -2 -0.1 .494 .499 0.3 -0.2 4 2/O
1884 25 WHS UA 4 14 1 0 0 1 0 2 0.2 0 2 0.2 .547 .501 0.1 0.1 1 /2O
4 Seasons 122 479 -19 0 0 -31 6 -44 -3.9 8 -36 -3.0 .467 .492 -0.4 -2.1 -5
CLV (2 yrs) 31 109 -13 0 0 -12 2 -23 -2.2 4 -20 -1.8 .430 .487 -0.7 -0.9 -8
WHS (1 yr) 4 14 1 0 0 1 0 2 0.2 0 2 0.2 .547 .501 0.1 0.1 1
COR (1 yr) 38 148 1 0 0 -6 2 -2 -0.1 0 -2 -0.1 .494 .499 0.3 -0.2 4
PHI (1 yr) 1 3 -1 0 0 0 -0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .414 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1
BAL (1 yr) 48 205 -7 0 0 -14 2 -20 -1.7 4 -15 -1.2 .464 .489 -0.0 -1.1 -1

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
1879 CLV NL 20 1B 1 7 7 0 0 1 1.000 7.00 .953 11.10
1879 CLV NL 20 C 1 7 4 0 3 0 .571 4.00 .889 6.40 4 0 0
1882 CLV NL 23 C 30 185 113 35 37 2 .800 4.93 .909 6.75 52 0 0
1883 TOT MLB 24 OF 14 32 20 4 8 0 .750 1.71 .851 1.81 0-2-12
1883 BAL AA 24 C 38 254 169 35 50 3 .803 5.37 .890 6.68 73 0 0
1883 BAL AA 24 OF 13 30 19 3 8 0 .733 1.69 .851 1.80 0-1-12
1883 PHI NL 24 OF 1 2 1 1 0 0 1.000 2.00 .850 2.00 0-1-0
1884 TOT UA 25 C 40 342 232 67 43 3 .874 7.48 .895 8.35 69 0 0
1884 TOT UA 25 OF 3 8 7 0 1 0 .875 2.33 .816 1.53 0-1-2
1884 COR UA 25 C 37 312 210 60 42 3 .865 7.30 .895 8.35 65 0 0
1884 COR UA 25 OF 2 7 6 0 1 0 .857 3.00 .816 1.55 0-1-1
1884 WHS UA 25 C 3 30 22 7 1 0 .967 9.67 .895 8.33 4 0 0
1884 WHS UA 25 OF 1 1 1 0 0 0 1.000 1.00 .820 1.50 0-0-1
4 Seasons C 109 788 518 137 133 8 .831 6.01 .897 7.31 198 0 0
2 Seasons OF 17 40 27 4 9 0 .775 1.82 .844 1.76 0-3-14
1 Season 1B 1 7 7 0 0 1 1.000 7.00 .953 11.10
4 Seasons TOT 127 835 552 141 142 9 .830 5.46 .895 6.60 0-3-14 198 0 0
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Errors Committed as C s c a p y
1882 NL  37 (3rd)
1883 AA  50 (5th)
1884 UA  43 (5th)
Career  133 (97th)

Passed Balls s c a p y
1882 NL  52 (5th)
1883 AA  73 (4th)
1884 UA  69 (3rd)
Career  198 (46th)

Youngest s c a p y
1879 NL  born 1859-03-03 (7th)

             

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