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Carmen Hill

Carmen Proctor Hill (Specs or Bunker)

Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 1", Weight: 180 lb.

Born: October 1, 1895 in Royalton, MN
High School: Corry HS (Corry, PA) (All Transactions)
Debut: August 24, 1915 (Age 19.327, 4,384th in MLB history)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1916 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Pirates/Giants/Cardinals 1915-1930

Final Game: May 4, 1930 (Age 34.215)
Died: January 1, 1990 in Indianapolis, IN
Buried: Crown Hill Cemetery, Indianapolis, IN
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Fine Details  · Last updated Nov 22, 2014 5:17AM
All-Time Rank (among pitchers): #923. Huck Betts… #924. Darren O'Day… #925. Jack Kramer… #926. CARMEN HILL… #927. Don Aase… #928. Dick Bosman… #929. Ed Summers… 

Standard Pitching

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Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards
1915 19 PIT NL 2 1 .667 1.15 8 3 3 2 1 0 47.0 42 8 6 0 13 24 2 0 1 186 237 2.35 1.170 8.0 0.0 2.5 4.6 1.85
1916 20 PIT NL 0 0 8.53 2 0 1 0 0 0 6.1 11 10 6 0 5 5 1 0 1 24 34 3.58 2.526 15.6 0.0 7.1 7.1 1.00
1918 22 PIT NL 2 3 .400 1.24 6 4 1 3 0 0 43.2 24 11 6 0 17 15 0 0 0 170 237 2.71 0.939 4.9 0.0 3.5 3.1 0.88
1919 23 PIT NL 0 0 9.00 4 0 3 0 0 0 5.0 12 6 5 0 1 1 0 0 1 27 37 2.69 2.600 21.6 0.0 1.8 1.8 1.00
1922 26 NYG NL 2 1 .667 4.76 8 4 1 0 0 0 28.1 33 15 15 0 5 6 0 0 0 121 85 3.11 1.341 10.5 0.0 1.6 1.9 1.20
1926 30 PIT NL 3 3 .500 3.40 6 6 0 4 1 0 39.2 42 17 15 1 9 8 2 1 1 164 116 3.67 1.286 9.5 0.2 2.0 1.8 0.89
1927 31 PIT NL 22 11 .667 3.24 43 31 7 22 2 3 277.2 260 125 100 12 80 95 4 0 2 1165 128 3.81 1.224 8.4 0.4 2.6 3.1 1.19 MVP-23
1928 32 PIT NL 16 10 .615 3.53 36 31 4 16 1 2 237.0 229 110 93 16 81 73 4 0 4 1008 115 4.24 1.308 8.7 0.6 3.1 2.8 0.90
1929 33 TOT NL 2 3 .400 4.41 30 4 14 0 0 3 87.2 104 55 43 6 43 29 1 0 2 403 110 4.90 1.677 10.7 0.6 4.4 3.0 0.67
1929 33 PIT NL 2 3 .400 3.99 27 3 13 0 0 3 79.0 94 45 35 4 35 28 0 0 1 360 121 4.44 1.633 10.7 0.5 4.0 3.2 0.80
1929 33 STL NL 0 0 8.31 3 1 1 0 0 0 8.2 10 10 8 2 8 1 1 0 1 43 59 9.05 2.077 10.4 2.1 8.3 1.0 0.13
1930 34 STL NL 0 1 .000 7.36 4 2 0 0 0 0 14.2 12 12 12 2 13 8 0 0 0 67 70 6.84 1.705 7.4 1.2 8.0 4.9 0.62
10 Yrs 49 33 .598 3.44 147 85 34 47 5 8 787.0 769 369 301 37 267 264 14 1 12 3335 117 3.93 1.316 8.8 0.4 3.1 3.0 0.99
162 Game Avg. 14 10 .598 3.44 43 25 10 14 1 2 231 225 108 88 11 78 77 4 0 4 977 117 3.93 1.316 8.8 0.4 3.1 3.0 0.99
PIT (8 yrs) 47 31 .603 3.26 132 78 32 47 5 8 735.1 714 332 266 33 241 249 13 1 11 3104 123 3.84 1.299 8.7 0.4 2.9 3.0 1.03
STL (2 yrs) 0 1 .000 7.71 7 3 1 0 0 0 23.1 22 22 20 4 21 9 1 0 1 110 66 7.66 1.843 8.5 1.5 8.1 3.5 0.43
NYG (1 yr) 2 1 .667 4.76 8 4 1 0 0 0 28.1 33 15 15 0 5 6 0 0 0 121 85 3.11 1.341 10.5 0.0 1.6 1.9 1.20
Hold your mouse over the values in the Saves, ERA, or FIP columns for additional information.

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1915 19 PIT NL 47.0 8 3 8 1.53 3.63 0.02 0.00 99.0 3.57 11 1.5 1.0 -0.0 1.9 14 .689 .509
1916 20 PIT NL 6.1 2 0 10 14.21 3.65 -0.14 0.00 99.8 3.79 -7 -0.6 1.0 -0.0 -0.6 -7 .194 .496
1918 22 PIT NL 43.2 6 4 11 2.27 3.63 0.23 0.00 105.7 3.59 6 0.9 1.0 -0.0 1.2 9 .644 .505
1919 23 PIT NL 5.0 4 0 6 10.80 3.75 0.36 0.00 104.2 3.54 -4 -0.4 1.0 -0.0 -0.4 -4 .390 .497
1922 26 NYG NL 28.1 8 4 15 4.76 4.71 0.45 0.00 96.3 4.10 -2 -0.2 1.0 -0.0 0.0 1 .473 .499
1926 30 PIT NL 39.2 6 6 17 3.86 4.44 0.15 0.00 106.4 4.57 3 0.3 -0.0 0.6 6 .553 .502
1927 31 PIT NL 277.2 43 31 125 4.05 4.62 0.09 0.00 104.5 4.73 23 2.4 1.0 -0.2 4.6 45 .557 .515 MVP-23
1928 32 PIT NL 237.0 36 31 110 4.18 4.53 0.00 0.00 103.9 4.71 13 1.4 1.0 -0.1 3.2 35 .538 .508
1929 33 PIT NL 81.0 27 3 45 5.00 5.30 0.00 0.00 102.7 5.45 4 0.4 1.0 -0.0 1.0 12 .513 .502
1929 33 STL NL 8.2 3 1 10 10.38 6.40 -0.09 0.00 99.0 6.43 -4 -0.3 1.0 -0.0 -0.2 -3 .394 .498
1930 34 STL NL 14.2 4 2 12 7.36 6.04 0.02 0.00 104.0 6.26 -2 -0.2 1.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0 .462 .499
10 Seasons 789.0 147 85 369 4.21 4.57 0.07 0.00 103.6 4.67 41 5.1 1.0 -0.5 11.3 108 .535 .507
PIT (8 yrs) 737.1 132 78 332 4.05 4.52 0.06 0.00 103.9 4.63 49 5.8 1.0 -0.5 11.6 111 .544 .508
STL (2 yrs) 23.1 7 3 22 8.49 6.17 -0.02 0.00 102.2 6.32 -6 -0.5 1.0 -0.0 -0.3 -3 .433 .499
NYG (1 yr) 28.1 8 4 15 4.76 4.71 0.45 0.00 96.3 4.10 -2 -0.2 1.0 -0.0 0.0 1 .473 .499

Postseason Pitching

Year Age Tm Lg Series Rslt Opp W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W
1927 31 PIT NL WS L NYY 0 0 4.50 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.0 9 3 3 1 1 0 6 0 0 0 28 1.667 13.5 1.5 1.5 9.0 6.00
1 WS 0 0 4.50 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.0 9 3 3 1 1 0 6 0 0 0 28 1.667 13.5 1.5 1.5 9.0 6.00

Standard Batting

More Stats

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1915 19 PIT NL 8 14 13 1 2 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 5 .154 .214 .308 .522 58 4 0 0 /1
1916 20 PIT NL 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 0 0 0 /1
1918 22 PIT NL 6 16 12 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 3 3 .167 .333 .167 .500 51 2 0 1 /1
1919 23 PIT NL 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 /1
1922 26 NYG NL 8 11 11 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 .182 .182 .182 .364 -7 2 0 0 /1
1926 30 PIT NL 6 17 17 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 0 4 .176 .176 .176 .353 -6 3 0 0 /1
1927 31 PIT NL 44 112 104 10 22 3 3 0 10 0 5 30 .212 .248 .298 .546 41 31 0 3 1 MVP-23
1928 32 PIT NL 36 93 86 5 20 0 3 0 13 0 2 16 .233 .250 .302 .552 41 26 0 4 1
1929 33 TOT NL 30 32 31 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 .032 .063 .032 .095 -76 1 0 0 1
1929 33 PIT NL 27 29 28 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 .036 .069 .036 .105 -74 1 0 0 1
1929 33 STL NL 3 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 /1
1930 34 STL NL 4 3 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333 .333 .333 .667 59 1 0 0 /1
10 Yrs 148 299 277 18 53 3 7 0 28 0 0 13 69 .191 .228 .253 .480 25 70 0 8
162 Game Avg. 162 327 303 20 58 3 8 0 31 0 14 76 .191 .228 .253 .480 25 77 0 9
PIT (8 yrs) 133 282 260 18 50 3 7 0 28 0 0 13 64 .192 .231 .258 .488 27 67 0 8
STL (2 yrs) 7 6 6 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .167 .167 .167 .333 -19 1 0 0
NYG (1 yr) 8 11 11 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 .182 .182 .182 .364 -7 2 0 0

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1915 19 PIT NL 8 14 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 .505 .500 0.0 0.0 0 /1
1916 20 PIT NL 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 .521 .500 0.0 0.0 0 /1
1918 22 PIT NL 6 16 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0.1 0 0 0.1 .509 .500 0.1 0.0 0 /1
1919 23 PIT NL 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 .500 .500 0.0 0.0 0 /1
1922 26 NYG NL 8 11 -2 0 0 0 1 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .492 .500 -0.1 0.0 -1 /1
1926 30 PIT NL 6 17 -3 0 0 0 2 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .485 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1 /1
1927 31 PIT NL 44 112 -10 0 0 0 11 1 0.1 0 1 0.1 .502 .501 0.1 -0.0 1 1 MVP-23
1928 32 PIT NL 36 93 -8 0 0 0 10 2 0.2 0 2 0.2 .505 .501 0.2 -0.0 2 1
1929 33 PIT NL 27 29 -8 0 0 0 3 -5 -0.4 0 -5 -0.4 .484 .497 -0.4 0.0 -5 1
1929 33 STL NL 3 3 -1 0 0 0 0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .480 .500 -0.1 0.0 -1 /1
1930 34 STL NL 4 3 -0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 .503 .500 0.0 0.0 0 /1
10 Seasons 148 299 -33 0 0 0 30 -3 -0.3 0 -3 -0.3 .498 .500 -0.2 -0.0 -3
PIT (8 yrs) 133 282 -30 0 0 0 28 -2 -0.1 0 -2 -0.1 .499 .500 -0.1 -0.0 -2
STL (2 yrs) 7 6 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 -0.0 0 -1 -0.0 .493 .500 -0.0 0.0 -1
NYG (1 yr) 8 11 -2 0 0 0 1 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .492 .500 -0.1 0.0 -1

Postseason Batting

Year Age Tm Lg Series Opp Rslt G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1927 31 PIT NL WS NYY L 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .000 .500 .000 .500 0 0 0 0
1 WS 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .000 .500 .000 .500 0 0 0 0

Standard Fielding

More Stats

Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG Awards
1915 PIT NL 19 P 8 3 2 47.0 17 3 14 0 1 1.000 3.26 2.13 .952 2.72 2.71
1916 PIT NL 20 P 2 0 0 6.1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 2.70 2.65
1918 PIT NL 22 P 6 4 3 43.2 14 1 13 0 0 1.000 2.89 2.33 .965 2.93 2.93
1919 PIT NL 23 P 4 0 0 5.0 2 0 2 0 0 1.000 3.60 0.50 .960 2.88 2.92
1922 NYG NL 26 P 8 4 0 28.1 12 1 11 0 0 1.000 3.81 1.50 .957 2.38 2.36
1926 PIT NL 30 P 6 6 4 39.2 18 2 16 0 1 1.000 4.08 3.00 .958 2.56 2.53
1927 PIT NL 31 P 43 31 22 277.2 79 11 64 4 0 .949 2.43 1.74 .958 2.33 2.31 MVP-23
1928 PIT NL 32 P 36 31 16 237.0 56 7 44 5 2 .911 1.94 1.42 .966 2.42 2.41
1929 TOT NL 33 P 30 4 0 87.2 28 3 22 3 1 .893 2.57 0.83 .964 2.39 2.35
1929 PIT NL 33 P 27 3 0 79.0 25 3 19 3 1 .880 2.51 0.81 .964 2.39 2.35
1929 STL NL 33 P 3 1 0 8.2 3 0 3 0 0 1.000 3.12 1.00 .963 2.39 2.33
1930 STL NL 34 P 4 2 0 14.2 3 1 2 0 0 1.000 1.84 0.75 .963 2.21 2.17
10 Seasons P 147 85 47 787.0 229 29 188 12 5 .948 2.48 1.48 .961 2.44 2.42
10 Seasons TOT 147 85 47 787.0 229 29 188 12 5 .948 2.48 1.48 .961 2.44 2.42
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
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Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
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Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

MVP (yr lg (rk, shr))
1927 NL (23, 2%)
0.02 Career Shares (1413th)

WAR for Pitcherss c a p y
1927 NL  4.6 (7th)

Earned Run Average s c a p y
1927 NL  3.24 (9th)

Wins s c a p y
1927 NL  22 (3rd)
1928 NL  16 (10th)

Win-Loss % s c a p y
1927 NL  .667 (6th)

Walks & Hits per IP s c a p y
1927 NL  1.224 (8th)

Hits per 9 IP s c a p y
1927 NL  8.427 (5th)
1928 NL  8.696 (9th)

Games Played s c a p y
1927 NL  43 (6th)

Saves s c a p y
1927 NL  3 (5th)

Innings Pitched s c a p y
1927 NL  277.7 (4th)

Strikeouts s c a p y
1927 NL  95 (7th)

Games Started s c a p y
1927 NL  31 (9th)
1928 NL  31 (7th)

Complete Games s c a p y
1927 NL  22 (4th)
1928 NL  16 (9th)

Shutouts s c a p y
1927 NL  2 (5th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1928 NL  16 (5th)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1927 NL  80 (6th)

Wild Pitches s c a p y
1928 NL  4 (9th)

Batters Faced s c a p y
1927 NL  1,165 (4th)

Adjusted ERA+ s c a p y
1927 NL  128 (7th)

Adj. Pitching Runs s c a p y
1927 NL  24 (7th)

Adj. Pitching Wins s c a p y
1927 NL  2.4 (7th)

Assists as P s c a p y
1927 NL  64 (4th)

Errors Committed as P s c a p y
1928 NL  5 (1st)

Youngest s c a p y
1915 NL  born 1895-10-01 (5th)
1916 NL  born 1895-10-01 (10th)

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkPitching - 37 (671), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame MonitorPitching - 10 (1002), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsPitching - 16 (460), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Starting Pitcher (794th), 11.1 career WAR/12.0 7yr-peak WAR/11.5 JAWS
Average HOF P (out of 59) = 73.4 career WAR/50.2 7yr-peak WAR/61.8 JAWS

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Name and misspellings: Carmen Bunker Carmen Proctor Specs Specs,Bunker Hill

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