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John Grim

John Helm Grim

Positions: Catcher, Second Baseman and First Baseman
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 2", Weight: 175 lb.

Born: August 9, 1867 in Lebanon, KY (All Transactions)
Debut: September 29, 1888 (Age 21.051)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1890 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Colonels/Bridegrooms/Grooms/Broncos/Brewers/... 1888-1899

Final Game: July 13, 1899 (Age 31.338)
Died: July 28, 1961 in Indianapolis, IN
Buried: Crown Hill Cemetery, Indianapolis, IN
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Standard Batting

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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1888 20 PHI NL 2 7 7 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143 .143 .143 .286 -11 1 0 /4O
1890 22 ROC AA 50 201 192 30 51 6 9 2 34 14 7 .266 .299 .422 .720 117 81 2 62/54O31
1891 23 MIL AA 29 121 119 14 28 5 1 1 14 1 2 5 .235 .248 .319 .567 51 38 0 25/4
1892 24 LOU NL 97 389 370 40 90 16 4 1 36 18 13 24 .243 .280 .316 .596 87 117 6 234/O56
1893 25 LOU NL 99 436 415 68 111 19 8 3 54 15 12 10 .267 .303 .373 .676 86 155 9 *2/34O6
1894 26 LOU NL 109 447 412 66 123 27 7 7 71 14 18 15 .299 .342 .449 .791 96 185 9 8 24/35
1895 27 BRO NL 94 358 333 55 93 17 5 0 45 10 13 9 .279 .320 .360 .680 81 120 7 5 *2/3O
1896 28 BRO NL 81 309 281 32 75 13 1 2 35 7 12 14 .267 .311 .342 .653 76 96 6 10 2/3
1897 29 BRO NL 80 302 290 26 72 10 1 0 25 3 1 2 .248 .259 .290 .548 48 84 3 8 2
1898 30 BRO NL 52 192 178 17 50 5 1 0 11 1 8 5 .281 .323 .320 .643 84 57 3 3 2
1899 31 BRO NL 15 50 47 3 13 1 0 0 7 0 1 0 .277 .320 .298 .618 68 14 2 0 2
11 Yrs 708 2812 2644 351 707 119 37 16 332 83 87 84 .267 .303 .359 .661 82 948 47 34
162 Game Avg. 162 643 605 80 162 27 8 4 76 19 20 .267 .303 .359 .661 82 217 11
BRO (5 yrs) 322 1211 1129 133 303 46 8 2 123 21 35 30 .268 .303 .329 .632 71 371 21 26
LOU (3 yrs) 305 1272 1197 174 324 62 19 11 161 47 43 49 .271 .309 .382 .691 90 457 24 8
MIL (1 yr) 29 121 119 14 28 5 1 1 14 1 2 5 .235 .248 .319 .567 51 38 0
ROC (1 yr) 50 201 192 30 51 6 9 2 34 14 7 .266 .299 .422 .720 117 81 2
PHI (1 yr) 2 7 7 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143 .143 .143 .286 -11 1 0
NL (9 yrs) 629 2490 2333 307 628 108 27 13 284 68 78 79 .269 .306 .355 .661 81 829 45 34
AA (2 yrs) 79 322 311 44 79 11 10 3 48 15 9 5 .254 .280 .383 .662 90 119 2

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1888 20 PHI NL 2 7 -1 -0 0 0 -0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .454 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1 /4O
1890 22 ROC AA 50 201 2 1 0 -2 3 3 0.2 5 8 0.7 .506 .502 0.9 0.0 10 62/54O31
1891 23 MIL AA 29 121 -9 -0 0 -1 1 -9 -0.8 3 -6 -0.5 .473 .495 -0.4 0.1 -5 25/4
1892 24 LOU NL 97 389 -5 0 0 0 4 -1 -0.1 13 13 1.2 .499 .500 1.3 0.4 13 234/O56
1893 25 LOU NL 99 436 -9 -1 0 4 6 1 0.0 15 16 1.5 .501 .500 1.2 0.8 12 *2/34O6
1894 26 LOU NL 109 447 -5 -1 0 1 6 1 0.0 15 16 1.5 .501 .500 1.5 0.5 15 24/35
1895 27 BRO NL 94 358 -8 -1 0 3 6 -0 -0.1 12 12 1.1 .500 .500 0.9 0.7 9 *2/3O
1896 28 BRO NL 81 309 -10 -1 0 0 5 -6 -0.5 11 5 0.6 .494 .497 0.6 0.4 5 2/3
1897 29 BRO NL 80 302 -22 -0 0 1 5 -16 -1.4 10 -6 -0.4 .483 .492 -0.4 0.5 -7 2
1898 30 BRO NL 52 192 -3 0 0 -1 3 -0 -0.1 7 6 0.6 .499 .500 0.7 0.2 7 2
1899 31 BRO NL 15 50 -2 0 0 0 1 -1 -0.1 2 1 0.1 .496 .500 0.1 0.1 1 2
11 Seasons 708 2812 -71 -3 0 5 40 -29 -2.8 93 64 6.5 .496 .499 6.3 3.5 59
BRO (5 yrs) 322 1211 -45 -2 0 3 20 -23 -2.1 41 18 2.1 .494 .497 1.9 1.9 15
LOU (3 yrs) 305 1272 -19 -1 0 5 16 1 -0.1 43 44 4.2 .500 .500 3.9 1.6 39
MIL (1 yr) 29 121 -9 -0 0 -1 1 -9 -0.8 3 -6 -0.5 .473 .495 -0.4 0.1 -5
ROC (1 yr) 50 201 2 1 0 -2 3 3 0.2 5 8 0.7 .506 .502 0.9 0.0 10
PHI (1 yr) 2 7 -1 -0 0 0 -0 -1 -0.1 0 -1 -0.1 .454 .499 -0.1 0.0 -1

Standard Pitching

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Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards
1890 22 ROC AA 0 0 0.00 1 0 1 0 0 0 3.1 3 3 0 0 4 3 0 0 1 17 4.72 2.100 8.1 0.0 10.8 8.1 0.75
1 Yr 0 0 0.00 1 0 1 0 0 0 3.1 3 3 0 0 4 3 0 0 1 17 4.72 2.100 8.1 0.0 10.8 8.1 0.75
162 Game Avg. 0 0 0.00 68 0 68 0 0 0 224 204 204 0 0 272 204 0 0 68 1156 4.72 2.100 8.1 0.0 10.8 8.1 0.75
Hold your mouse over the values in the Saves, ERA, or FIP columns for additional information.

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1890 22 ROC AA 3.1 1 0 3 8.10 5.63 0.18 0.00 92.0 5.01 -1 -0.1 1.0 -0.0 -0.1 -1 .417 .499
1 Season 3.1 1 0 3 8.10 5.63 0.18 0.00 92.0 5.01 -1 -0.1 1.0 -0.0 -0.1 -1 .417 .499

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
1888 PHI NL 20 2B 1 7 1 4 2 0 .714 5.00 .920 5.70
1888 PHI NL 20 OF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.90 0-0-1
1890 ROC AA 22 SS 21 114 42 55 17 8 .851 4.62 .885 4.90
1890 ROC AA 22 C 15 94 69 20 5 2 .947 5.93 .925 6.49 6 29 19 40% 38%
1890 ROC AA 22 3B 8 30 11 16 3 0 .900 3.38 .864 3.68
1890 ROC AA 22 2B 4 23 13 8 2 3 .913 5.25 .925 5.45
1890 ROC AA 22 OF 3 3 3 0 0 0 1.000 1.00 .917 1.83 0-0-3
1890 ROC AA 22 1B 2 13 13 0 0 2 1.000 6.50 .973 10.30
1890 ROC AA 22 P 1 3.1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 2.16 2.10
1891 MIL AA 23 C 16 121 94 18 9 2 .926 7.00 .929 6.19 7 27 15 36% 38%
1891 MIL AA 23 3B 10 29 11 15 3 1 .897 2.60 .872 3.63
1891 MIL AA 23 2B 3 22 6 13 3 1 .864 6.33 .914 5.37
1892 LOU NL 24 C 69 369 262 85 22 7 .940 5.03 .936 5.87 35 130 70 35% 37%
1892 LOU NL 24 1B 11 113 106 5 2 6 .982 10.09 .976 10.54
1892 LOU NL 24 2B 10 44 19 23 2 4 .955 4.20 .928 5.63
1892 LOU NL 24 OF 8 18 17 1 0 0 1.000 2.25 .912 1.89 1-0-7
1892 LOU NL 24 3B 1 6 0 4 2 0 .667 4.00 .878 3.60
1892 LOU NL 24 SS 1 4 1 2 1 0 .750 3.00 .898 5.40
1893 LOU NL 25 C 92 413 281 112 20 15 .952 4.27 .936 4.78 28 153 105 41% 37%
1893 LOU NL 25 1B 3 29 26 2 1 3 .966 9.33 .978 10.57
1893 LOU NL 25 2B 2 8 5 3 0 0 1.000 4.00 .932 5.95
1893 LOU NL 25 OF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.20 0-0-1
1893 LOU NL 25 SS 1 3 1 0 2 0 .333 1.00 .897 5.50
1894 LOU NL 26 C 78 398 264 105 29 9 .927 4.73 .924 4.60 16 152 111 42% 37%
1894 LOU NL 26 2B 24 143 58 73 12 10 .916 5.46 .928 5.79
1894 LOU NL 26 1B 7 71 67 2 2 6 .972 9.86 .976 9.80
1894 LOU NL 26 3B 1 2 0 2 0 0 1.000 2.00 .880 3.50
1895 BRO NL 27 C 92 379 256 103 20 10 .947 3.90 .938 4.63 15 124 109 47% 37%
1895 BRO NL 27 1B 1 8 8 0 0 0 1.000 8.00 .978 10.10
1895 BRO NL 27 OF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 2.20 1-0-0
1896 BRO NL 28 C 77 345 242 82 21 7 .939 4.21 .943 4.59 14 143 91 39% 37%
1896 BRO NL 28 1B 5 36 35 0 1 1 .972 7.00 .980 10.48
1897 BRO NL 29 C 77 358 241 98 19 8 .947 4.40 .948 4.73 15 143 96 40% 37%
1898 BRO NL 30 C 52 222 155 56 11 6 .950 4.06 .953 4.82 12 59 45 43% 44%
1899 BRO NL 31 C 12 58 39 17 2 3 .966 4.67 .952 4.59 3 19 15 44% 44%
10 Seasons C 580 2757 1903 696 158 69 .943 4.48 .938 4.91 151 979 676 41% 38%
6 Seasons 2B 44 247 102 124 21 18 .915 5.14 .926 5.70
6 Seasons 1B 29 270 255 9 6 18 .978 9.10 .977 10.32
3 Seasons SS 23 121 44 57 20 8 .835 4.39 .886 4.95
4 Seasons 3B 20 67 22 37 8 1 .881 2.95 .869 3.64
5 Seasons OF 14 21 20 1 0 0 1.000 1.50 .913 1.92 2-0-12
1 Season P 1 3.1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 2.16 2.10
11 Seasons TOT 711 3.1 3483 2346 924 213 114 .939 0.00 4.60 .937 2.16 5.08 2-0-12 151 979 676 41% 38%
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G PB WP SB CS CS% lgCS% PO Awards
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

Def. Games as C s c a p y
1893 NL  92 (2nd)
1895 NL  92 (2nd)
1896 NL  77 (4th)

Assists as C s c a p y
1893 NL  112 (2nd)
1894 NL  105 (3rd)
1895 NL  103 (2nd)
1896 NL  82 (3rd)
1897 NL  98 (3rd)
Career  696 (98th)

Errors Committed as C s c a p y
1894 NL  29 (4th)
1896 NL  21 (5th)
Career  158 (66th)

Double Plays Turned as C s c a p y
1893 NL  15 (1st)
1894 NL  9 (3rd)
1895 NL  10 (3rd)
1897 NL  8 (4th)

Passed Balls s c a p y
1892 NL  35 (2nd)
1893 NL  28 (1st)
Career  151 (69th)

Stolen Bases Allowed as C s c a p y
1893 NL  153 (3rd)
1894 NL  152 (5th)
1896 NL  143 (4th)
1897 NL  143 (5th)
Career  979 (38th)

Caught Stealing as C s c a p y
1893 NL  105 (2nd)
1894 NL  111 (3rd)
1895 NL  109 (2nd)
1896 NL  91 (3rd)
1897 NL  96 (3rd)
Career  676 (35th)

Caught Stealing %s c a p y
1895 NL  46.8 (3rd)

Range Factor/Game as C s c a p y
1894 NL  4.73 (4th)

Fielding % as C s c a p y
1893 NL  .952 (2nd)
1894 NL  .927 (5th)
1895 NL  .947 (5th)

Youngest s c a p y
1888 NL  born 1867-08-09 (9th)

             

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 2 (2808), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Catcher (234th), 6.5 career WAR/7.3 7yr-peak WAR/6.9 JAWS
Average HOF C (out of 13) = 52.5 career WAR/33.8 7yr-peak WAR/43.1 JAWS

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