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Pretzels Getzien

Charles H. Getzien (Pretzels)
commonly misspelled Getzein

Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5' 10", Weight: 172 lb.

Born: February 14, 1864 in Germany(All Transactions)
Debut: August 13, 1884
Teams (by GP): Wolverines/Beaneaters/Hoosiers/Browns/Spiders 1884-1892

Final Game: July 19, 1892
Died: June 19, 1932 in Chicago, IL
Buried: Concordia Cemetery, Forest Park, IL
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Standard Pitching

Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
1884 20 DTN NL 5 12 .294 1.95 17 17 0 17 1 0 147.1 118 73 32 2 25 107 0 9 604 147 0.971 7.2 0.1 1.5 6.5 4.28
1885 21 DTN NL 12 25 .324 3.03 37 37 0 37 1 0 330.0 360 222 111 8 92 110 0 13 1455 94 1.370 9.8 0.2 2.5 3.0 1.20
1886 22 DTN NL 30 11 .732 3.03 43 43 0 42 1 0 386.2 388 203 130 6 85 172 0 19 1640 107 1.223 9.0 0.1 2.0 4.0 2.02
1887 23 DTN NL 29 13 .690 3.73 43 42 1 41 2 0 366.2 373 217 152 24 106 135 2 0 18 1578 109 1.306 9.2 0.6 2.6 3.3 1.27
1888 24 DTN NL 19 25 .432 3.05 46 46 0 45 2 0 404.0 411 225 137 13 54 202 8 0 23 1697 90 1.151 9.2 0.3 1.2 4.5 3.74
1889 25 IND NL 18 22 .450 4.54 45 44 1 36 0 1 349.0 395 256 176 27 100 139 9 0 14 1535 91 1.418 10.2 0.7 2.6 3.6 1.39
1890 26 BSN NL 23 17 .575 3.19 40 40 0 39 4 0 350.0 342 201 124 5 82 140 3 0 8 1466 119 1.211 8.8 0.1 2.1 3.6 1.71
1891 27 TOT NL 4 6 .400 4.22 12 10 2 8 0 0 98.0 124 71 46 5 27 33 0 0 3 444 86 1.541 11.4 0.5 2.5 3.0 1.22
1891 27 BSN NL 4 5 .444 3.84 11 9 2 7 0 0 89.0 112 62 38 4 23 29 0 0 2 401 94 1.517 11.3 0.4 2.3 2.9 1.26
1891 27 CLV NL 0 1 .000 8.00 1 1 0 1 0 0 9.0 12 9 8 1 4 4 0 0 1 43 45 1.778 12.0 1.0 4.0 4.0 1.00
1892 28 STL NL 5 8 .385 5.67 13 13 0 12 0 0 108.0 159 87 68 5 31 32 6 0 4 520 61 1.759 13.3 0.4 2.6 2.7 1.03
9 Yrs 145 139 .511 3.46 296 292 4 277 11 1 2539.2 2670 1555 976 95 602 1070 28 0 111 10939 99 1.288 9.5 0.3 2.1 3.8 1.78
162 Game Avg. 17 16 .511 3.46 34 34 0 32 1 0 294 309 180 113 11 70 124 0 13 1265 99 1.288 9.5 0.3 2.1 3.8 1.78
DTN (5 yrs) 95 86 .525 3.09 186 185 1 182 7 0 1634.2 1650 940 562 53 362 726 10 0 82 6974 103 1.231 9.1 0.3 2.0 4.0 2.01
BSN (2 yrs) 27 22 .551 3.32 51 49 2 46 4 0 439.0 454 263 162 9 105 169 3 0 10 1867 113 1.273 9.3 0.2 2.2 3.5 1.61
STL (1 yr) 5 8 .385 5.67 13 13 0 12 0 0 108.0 159 87 68 5 31 32 6 0 4 520 61 1.759 13.3 0.4 2.6 2.7 1.03
CLV (1 yr) 0 1 .000 8.00 1 1 0 1 0 0 9.0 12 9 8 1 4 4 0 0 1 43 45 1.778 12.0 1.0 4.0 4.0 1.00
IND (1 yr) 18 22 .450 4.54 45 44 1 36 0 1 349.0 395 256 176 27 100 139 9 0 14 1535 91 1.418 10.2 0.7 2.6 3.6 1.39

Player Value--Pitchers

WAR Explained (v2.1): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg IP G GS R RA9 RA9opp RA9def RA9role PPFp RA9avg RAA WAA gmLI WAAadj WAR RAR waaWL% 162WL% Salary Awards
1884 20 DTN NL 147.1 17 17 73 4.46 5.73 -0.23 0.00 96.0 5.72 24 2.5 -0.3 3.4 33 .645 .515 $
1885 21 DTN NL 330.0 37 37 222 6.05 4.98 -0.14 0.00 101.0 5.17 -26 -2.3 -0.3 0.1 -7 .437 .486 $
1886 22 DTN NL 386.2 43 43 203 4.73 5.04 0.45 0.00 98.0 4.50 2 0.2 -0.5 3.0 27 .504 .501 $1,750
1887 23 DTN NL 366.2 43 42 217 5.33 5.86 0.36 0.00 100.0 5.50 21 1.8 1.0 -0.5 4.5 50 .542 .511 $1,900
1888 24 DTN NL 404.0 46 46 225 5.01 4.42 0.03 0.00 97.0 4.26 -27 -2.6 -0.4 0.2 1 .443 .484 $2,150
1889 25 IND NL 349.0 45 44 256 6.60 5.81 0.10 0.00 102.0 5.83 -22 -1.8 1.0 -0.4 0.8 9 .460 .489 $2,900
1890 26 BSN NL 350.0 40 40 201 5.17 5.56 0.35 0.00 106.0 5.53 25 2.3 -0.6 4.7 53 .557 .514 $
1891 27 BSN NL 89.0 11 9 62 6.27 5.46 0.13 0.00 108.0 5.76 -3 -0.3 1.0 -0.1 0.4 5 .477 .498 $
1891 27 CLV NL 9.0 1 1 9 9.00 5.48 -0.22 0.00 102.0 5.81 -3 -0.2 -0.0 -0.1 -2 .287 .499 $
1892 28 STL NL 108.0 13 13 87 7.25 5.15 -0.36 0.00 105.0 5.78 -16 -1.3 -0.1 -0.5 -5 .396 .492 $
9 Seasons 2539.2 296 292 1555 5.51 5.29 0.14 0.00 100.7 5.19 -23 -1.8 1.0 -3.2 16.5 164 .494 .499 $8,700
DTN (5 yrs) 1634.2 186 185 940 5.18 5.12 0.15 0.00 98.6 4.91 -5 -0.5 1.0 -2.1 11.2 104 .497 .499 $5,800
BSN (2 yrs) 439.0 51 49 263 5.39 5.54 0.30 0.00 106.4 5.57 22 2.0 1.0 -0.7 5.1 58 .540 .506 $
STL (1 yr) 108.0 13 13 87 7.25 5.15 -0.36 0.00 105.0 5.78 -16 -1.3 -0.1 -0.5 -5 .396 .492 $
CLV (1 yr) 9.0 1 1 9 9.00 5.48 -0.22 0.00 102.0 5.81 -3 -0.2 -0.0 -0.1 -2 .287 .499 $
IND (1 yr) 349.0 45 44 256 6.60 5.81 0.10 0.00 102.0 5.83 -22 -1.8 1.0 -0.4 0.8 9 .460 .489 $2,900

Postseason Pitching

Year Age Tm Lg Series Rslt Opp W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
1887 23 DTN NL WS W STL 4 2 .667 2.48 6 6 0 6 1 0 58.0 61 23 16 1 15 17 1.310 9.5 0.2 2.3 2.6 1.13
1 WS 4 2 .667 2.48 6 6 0 6 1 0 58.0 61 23 16 1 15 17 1.310 9.5 0.2 2.3 2.6 1.13

Cumulative Pitching

Year Age W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB ERA+
1884 20 5 12 .294 1.95 17 17 0 17 1 0 147.1 118 73 32 2 25 107 0 9 604 147 0.971 7.2 0.1 1.5 6.5 4.28 147
1885 21 17 37 .315 2.70 54 54 0 54 2 0 477.1 478 295 143 10 117 217 0 22 2059 106 1.247 9.0 0.2 2.2 4.1 1.85 106
1886 22 47 48 .495 2.84 97 97 0 96 3 0 864.0 866 498 273 16 202 389 0 41 3699 106 1.236 9.0 0.2 2.1 4.1 1.93 106
1887 23 76 61 .555 3.11 140 139 1 137 5 0 1230.2 1239 715 425 40 308 524 2 0 59 5277 107 1.257 9.1 0.3 2.3 3.8 1.70 107
1888 24 95 86 .525 3.09 186 185 1 182 7 0 1634.2 1650 940 562 53 362 726 10 0 82 6974 103 1.231 9.1 0.3 2.0 4.0 2.01 103
1889 25 113 108 .511 3.35 231 229 2 218 7 1 1983.2 2045 1196 738 80 462 865 19 0 96 8509 100 1.264 9.3 0.4 2.1 3.9 1.87 100
1890 26 136 125 .521 3.32 271 269 2 257 11 1 2333.2 2387 1397 862 85 544 1005 22 0 104 9975 103 1.256 9.2 0.3 2.1 3.9 1.85 103
1891 27 140 131 .517 3.36 283 279 4 265 11 1 2431.2 2511 1468 908 90 571 1038 22 0 107 10419 102 1.267 9.3 0.3 2.1 3.8 1.82 102
1892 28 145 139 .511 3.46 296 292 4 277 11 1 2539.2 2670 1555 976 95 602 1070 28 0 111 10939 99 1.288 9.5 0.3 2.1 3.8 1.78 99

Neutralized Pitching

Change to: Default / 750 Runs / 1968 Dodgers / 2000 Rockies or

All seasons are converted to 162-game seasons &
average team scoring of 716 total runs (4.42 R/G) How this works
Year Age W L W-L% ERA IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WHIP H/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB HR/9 Gact
1884 20 21 3 .875 1.52 225.0 152 42 38 3 32 163 0 0.818 6.1 1.3 6.5 5.09 0.1 17
1885 21 39 16 .709 2.57 501.0 494 159 143 11 126 167 0 1.238 8.9 2.3 3.0 1.33 0.2 37
1886 22 41 17 .707 2.53 523.0 471 163 147 7 103 233 0 1.098 8.1 1.8 4.0 2.26 0.1 43
1887 23 39 16 .709 2.55 497.0 406 157 141 26 115 183 2 1.048 7.4 2.1 3.3 1.59 0.5 43
1888 24 33 20 .623 3.04 485.0 491 182 164 16 65 242 10 1.146 9.1 1.2 4.5 3.72 0.3 46
1889 25 30 19 .612 3.22 447.0 415 178 160 28 105 178 9 1.163 8.4 2.1 3.6 1.70 0.6 45
1890 26 36 12 .750 2.28 439.0 354 123 111 5 85 176 3 1.000 7.3 1.7 3.6 2.07 0.1 40
1891 27 8 5 .615 2.93 123.0 126 44 40 5 27 41 0 1.244 9.2 2.0 3.0 1.52 0.4 12
1892 28 6 7 .462 4.43 120.0 152 66 59 5 30 35 6 1.517 11.4 2.3 2.6 1.17 0.4 13
9 Yrs 253 115 .688 2.69 3360.0 3061 1114 1003 106 688 1418 30 1.116 8.2 3.8 2.06 0.3 296

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

WAR for Pitchers† s c a p y
1884 NL  3.4 (9th)
1887 NL  4.5 (9th)
1890 NL  4.7 (8th)

Earned Run Average s c a p y
1884 NL  1.95 (3rd)

Wins s c a p y
1886 NL  30 (6th)
1887 NL  29 (3rd)
1888 NL  19 (9th)
1890 NL  23 (10th)

Win-Loss % s c a p y
1886 NL  .732 (5th)
1887 NL  .690 (1st)

Walks & Hits per IP s c a p y
1884 NL  0.971 (4th)
1886 NL  1.223 (8th)
1887 NL  1.306 (10th)
1890 NL  1.211 (7th)

Hits per 9 IP s c a p y
1884 NL  7.208 (4th)
1887 NL  9.156 (10th)

Bases On Balls per 9 IP s c a p y
1884 NL  1.527 (8th)
1886 NL  1.978 (8th)
1888 NL  1.203 (4th)
1889 NL  2.579 (8th)
1890 NL  2.109 (3rd)
Career  2.133 (132nd)

Strikeouts per 9 IP s c a p y
1884 NL  6.536 (3rd)
1887 NL  3.314 (8th)
1888 NL  4.500 (5th)
1889 NL  3.585 (9th)

Games Played s c a p y
1887 NL  43 (7th)
1888 NL  46 (6th)
1889 NL  45 (6th)

Saves s c a p y
1889 NL  1 (4th)

Innings Pitched s c a p y
1886 NL  386.7 (9th)
1887 NL  366.7 (7th)
1888 NL  404.0 (6th)
1889 NL  349.0 (8th)
Career  2,539.7 (227th)

Strikeouts s c a p y
1887 NL  135 (6th)
1888 NL  202 (3rd)
1889 NL  139 (5th)
1890 NL  140 (9th)

Games Started s c a p y
1887 NL  42 (7th)
1888 NL  46 (6th)
1889 NL  44 (5th)

Complete Games s c a p y
1886 NL  42 (9th)
1887 NL  41 (7th)
1888 NL  45 (7th)
1889 NL  36 (9th)
1890 NL  39 (9th)
Career  277 (58th)

Shutouts s c a p y
1887 NL  2 (5th)
1890 NL  4 (5th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1885 NL  8 (7th)
1887 NL  24 (1st)
1888 NL  13 (6th)
1889 NL  27 (1st)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1885 NL  92 (7th)
1887 NL  106 (8th)

Hits s c a p y
1885 NL  360 (7th)
1886 NL  388 (7th)
1887 NL  373 (10th)
1888 NL  411 (4th)
1889 NL  395 (5th)
1890 NL  342 (9th)
Career  2,670 (189th)

Strikeouts / Base On Balls s c a p y
1884 NL  4.280 (6th)
1886 NL  2.023 (8th)
1887 NL  1.274 (8th)
1888 NL  3.741 (1st)
1889 NL  1.390 (3rd)
1890 NL  1.707 (3rd)

Home Runs per 9 IP s c a p y
1884 NL  0.122 (1st)
1886 NL  0.140 (2nd)
1890 NL  0.129 (3rd)

Losses s c a p y
1885 NL  25 (4th)
1888 NL  25 (2nd)
1889 NL  22 (3rd)
1890 NL  17 (8th)
Career  139 (205th)

Earned Runs s c a p y
1885 NL  111 (9th)
1886 NL  130 (8th)
1887 NL  152 (7th)
1888 NL  137 (5th)
1889 NL  176 (2nd)
1890 NL  124 (7th)

Wild Pitches s c a p y
1887 NL  18 (9th)
1888 NL  23 (3rd)
Career  111 (80th)

Batters Faced s c a p y
1886 NL  1,640 (8th)
1887 NL  1,578 (7th)
1888 NL  1,697 (6th)
1889 NL  1,535 (9th)
Career  10,939 (215th)

Games Finished s c a p y
1887 NL  1 (10th)

Adjusted ERA+ s c a p y
1884 NL  148 (4th)

Adj. Pitching Runs s c a p y
1884 NL  13 (9th)
1886 NL  15 (9th)
1887 NL  19 (9th)
1890 NL  20 (10th)

Adj. Pitching Wins s c a p y
1884 NL  1.2 (9th)
1886 NL  1.4 (9th)
1887 NL  1.6 (9th)
1890 NL  1.8 (10th)

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Black InkPitching - 3 (562), Average HOFer ≈ 40
Gray InkPitching - 89 (256), Average HOFer ≈ 185
Hall of Fame MonitorPitching - 66 (183), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsPitching - 15 (499), Average HOFer ≈ 50

Similarity Scores

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