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Dave Engle

Ralph David Engle

Positions: Catcher, Pinch Hitter and Rightfielder
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6' 3", Weight: 210 lb.

Born: November 30, 1956 in San Diego, CA
High School: Crawford HS (San Diego, CA)
School: University of Southern California (Los Angeles, CA)
Drafted
by the California Angels in the 3rd round of the 1978 amateur draft. (All Transactions)
Debut: April 14, 1981 (Age 24.135)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1981 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Twins/Expos/Tigers/Brewers 1981-1989

Final Game: July 28, 1989 (Age 32.240)
Relatives: Brother-In-Law of Tom Brunansky
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Standard Batting

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1981 24 MIN AL 82 265 248 29 64 14 4 5 32 0 1 13 37 .258 .295 .407 .703 97 101 9 1 1 2 1 *9/5D RoY-5
1982 25 MIN AL 58 197 186 20 42 7 2 4 16 0 0 10 22 .226 .269 .349 .618 67 65 6 1 0 0 0 9D/7
1983 26 MIN AL 120 408 374 46 114 22 4 8 43 2 1 28 39 .305 .350 .449 .800 116 168 13 1 0 5 1 2D/9
1984 ★ 27 MIN AL 109 424 391 56 104 20 1 4 38 0 1 26 22 .266 .308 .353 .661 80 138 18 0 2 5 3 2D AS
1985 28 MIN AL 70 195 172 28 44 8 2 7 25 2 2 21 28 .256 .333 .448 .781 108 77 3 0 0 2 1 D2/7
1986 29 DET AL 35 93 86 6 22 7 0 0 4 0 0 7 13 .256 .312 .337 .649 77 29 2 0 0 0 0 3/D279
1987 30 MON NL 59 90 84 7 19 4 0 1 14 1 0 6 11 .226 .278 .310 .587 54 26 5 0 0 0 1 /72395
1988 31 MON NL 34 42 37 4 8 3 0 0 1 0 0 5 5 .216 .310 .297 .607 73 11 2 0 0 0 0 /2957
1989 32 MIL AL 27 70 65 5 14 3 0 2 8 0 0 4 13 .215 .261 .354 .615 73 23 1 0 1 0 0 3/2D
9 Yrs 594 1784 1643 201 431 88 13 31 181 5 5 120 190 .262 .311 .388 .700 90 638 59 3 4 14 7
162 Game Avg. 162 487 448 55 118 24 4 8 49 1 1 33 52 .262 .311 .388 .700 90 174 16 1 1 4 2
MIN (5 yrs) 439 1489 1371 179 368 71 13 28 154 4 5 98 148 .268 .316 .400 .716 95 549 49 3 3 14 6
MON (2 yrs) 93 132 121 11 27 7 0 1 15 1 0 11 16 .223 .288 .306 .594 60 37 7 0 0 0 1
DET (1 yr) 35 93 86 6 22 7 0 0 4 0 0 7 13 .256 .312 .337 .649 77 29 2 0 0 0 0
MIL (1 yr) 27 70 65 5 14 3 0 2 8 0 0 4 13 .215 .261 .354 .615 73 23 1 0 1 0 0
AL (7 yrs) 501 1652 1522 190 404 81 13 30 166 4 5 109 174 .265 .313 .395 .708 93 601 52 3 4 14 6
NL (2 yrs) 93 132 121 11 27 7 0 1 15 1 0 11 16 .223 .288 .306 .594 60 37 7 0 0 0 1

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1981 24 MIN AL 82 265 -1 1 -0 3 -3 -1 -0.1 9 8 0.8 .499 .499 0.5 -0.0 6 *9/5D RoY-5
1982 25 MIN AL 58 197 -8 1 -0 4 -3 -6 -0.6 7 1 0.0 .489 .496 -0.4 0.1 -3 9D/7
1983 26 MIN AL 120 408 9 -0 -1 -6 2 4 0.5 14 18 1.8 .504 .503 2.4 -0.4 24 2D/9
1984 ★ 27 MIN AL 109 424 -8 1 -2 0 3 -6 -0.6 14 9 0.8 .495 .496 0.9 0.3 9 2D AS
1985 28 MIN AL 70 195 2 -1 -0 -0 -3 -1 -0.1 7 5 0.5 .498 .499 0.6 -0.3 6 $215,000 D2/7
1986 29 DET AL 35 93 -3 -0 -0 1 -2 -4 -0.3 3 -0 -0.1 .489 .498 -0.2 -0.1 -1 3/D279
1987 30 MON NL 59 90 -6 1 -0 4 0 -2 -0.2 3 2 0.1 .497 .499 -0.3 0.4 -2 $145,000 /72395
1988 31 MON NL 34 42 -1 -0 -0 -0 0 -2 -0.2 1 -0 -0.0 .495 .499 -0.0 0.0 0 $150,000 /2957
1989 32 MIL AL 27 70 -3 0 0 0 -1 -3 -0.3 3 -1 -0.1 .488 .498 -0.1 -0.0 -1 $165,000 3/2D
9 Seasons 594 1784 -18 2 -4 6 -6 -19 -1.9 61 42 3.9 .497 .499 3.4 0.1 36 $675,000
MIN (5 yrs) 439 1489 -6 2 -3 1 -3 -9 -0.8 51 41 3.9 .498 .499 3.9 -0.2 41 $215,000
MON (2 yrs) 93 132 -7 0 -0 4 0 -3 -0.4 4 1 0.1 .496 .499 -0.3 0.4 -2 $295,000
DET (1 yr) 35 93 -3 -0 -0 1 -2 -4 -0.3 3 -0 -0.1 .489 .498 -0.2 -0.1 -1
MIL (1 yr) 27 70 -3 0 0 0 -1 -3 -0.3 3 -1 -0.1 .488 .498 -0.1 -0.0 -1 $165,000

Advanced Batting

Year Age Tm Lg PA Outs RC RC/G AIR BAbip BA lgBA OBP lgOBP SLG lgSLG OPS lgOPS OPS+ OWn% BtRuns BtWins TotA SecA ISO PwrSpd
1981 24 MIN AL 265 197 27 3.7 94 .284 .258 .263 .295 .328 .407 .382 .703 .711 97 .452 -2.2 -0.2 .588 .198 .149 .0
1982 25 MIN AL 197 150 16 2.9 101 .238 .226 .268 .269 .332 .349 .408 .618 .740 67 .298 -9.4 -0.9 .507 .177 .124 .0
1983 26 MIN AL 408 279 57 5.5 100 .319 .305 .269 .350 .331 .449 .406 .800 .737 116 .584 8.4 0.8 .723 .222 .144 3.2
1984 27 MIN AL 424 313 39 3.3 100 .270 .266 .268 .308 .332 .353 .405 .661 .736 80 .365 -10.7 -1.1 .533 .151 .087 .0
1985 28 MIN AL 195 135 26 5.2 103 .266 .256 .267 .333 .334 .448 .414 .781 .748 108 .552 1.8 0.2 .737 .314 .192 3.1
1986 29 DET AL 93 66 9 3.6 100 .301 .256 .262 .312 .330 .337 .408 .649 .737 77 .388 -2.5 -0.2 .545 .163 .081
1987 30 MON NL 90 70 6 2.3 108 .250 .226 .273 .278 .343 .310 .425 .587 .767 54 .210 -5.8 -0.6 .471 .167 .083 1.0
1988 31 MON NL 42 31 3 2.6 93 .250 .216 .261 .310 .325 .297 .383 .607 .708 73 .316 -1.1 -0.1 .516 .216 .081
1989 32 MIL AL 70 53 6 3.0 92 .240 .215 .260 .261 .324 .354 .382 .615 .706 73 .341 -2.6 -0.3 .519 .200 .138 .0
9 Yrs 1784 1294 189 3.9 100 .279 .262 .267 .311 .331 .388 .403 .700 .734 90 .439 -24.1 -2.4 .596 .199 .126 8.6
162 Game Avg. 487 353 52 3.9 100 .279 .262 .267 .311 .331 .388 .403 .700 .734 90 .439 -24.1 -2.4 .596 .199 .126 2
MIN (5 yrs) 1489 1074 165 4.1 100 .281 .268 .267 .316 .331 .400 .403 .716 .734 95 .463 -12.1 -1.2 .614 .203 .132 7.0
MON (2 yrs) 132 101 9 2.4 104 .250 .223 .269 .288 .337 .306 .412 .594 .749 60 .239 -7.0 -0.7 .485 .182 .083 1.0
DET (1 yr) 93 66 9 3.6 100 .301 .256 .262 .312 .330 .337 .408 .649 .737 77 .388 -2.5 -0.2 .545 .163 .081
MIL (1 yr) 70 53 6 3.0 92 .240 .215 .260 .261 .324 .354 .382 .615 .706 73 .342 -2.6 -0.3 .519 .200 .138 .0
AL (7 yrs) 1652 1193 180 4.0 99 .281 .265 .267 .313 .331 .395 .402 .708 .733 93 .454 -17.2 -1.7 .606 .200 .129 7.1
NL (2 yrs) 132 101 9 2.4 104 .250 .223 .269 .288 .337 .306 .412 .594 .749 60 .239 -7.0 -0.7 .485 .182 .083 1.0

All-Star Batting

Year Tm Lg Age GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1984 MIN AL 27 DNP

Ratio Batting*

Year Age Tm Lg PA HR% SO% BB% XBH% X/H% SO/W AB/SO AB/HR AB/RBI GB/FB GO/AO IP% LD% HR/FB IF/FB
1981 24 MIN AL 265 1.9% 14.0% 4.9% 8.7% 36% 2.85 6.7 49.6 7.8 1.21 78%
1982 25 MIN AL 197 2.0% 11.2% 5.1% 6.6% 31% 2.20 8.5 46.5 11.6 0.95 81%
1983 26 MIN AL 408 2.0% 9.6% 6.9% 8.3% 30% 1.39 9.6 46.8 8.7 1.36 81%
1984 27 MIN AL 424 0.9% 5.2% 6.1% 5.9% 24% 0.85 17.8 97.8 10.3 1.03 87%
1985 28 MIN AL 195 3.6% 14.4% 10.8% 8.7% 39% 1.33 6.1 24.6 6.9 1.19 71%
1986 29 DET AL 93 0.0% 14.0% 7.5% 7.5% 32% 1.86 6.6 21.5 0.93 78%
1987 30 MON NL 90 1.1% 12.2% 6.7% 5.6% 26% 1.83 7.6 84.0 6.0 1.32 80%
1988 31 MON NL 42 0.0% 11.9% 11.9% 7.1% 38% 1.00 7.4 37.0 1.13 1.36 76% 13% 0.0% 60%
1989 32 MIL AL 70 2.9% 18.6% 5.7% 7.1% 36% 3.25 5.0 32.5 8.1 0.65 0.82 71% 15% 8.3% 23%
9 Yrs 1784 1.7% 10.7% 6.7% 7.4% 31% 1.58 8.6 53.0 9.1 0.80 1.13 80% 14% 6.7% 35%
MLB Averages 2.2% 14.2% 8.5% 6.7% 29% 1.68 6.3 41.6 8.4 0.81 1.08 74% 20% 6.8% 29%

Win Probability*

Year Age Tm Lg BtRuns BtWins Plays WPA WPA+ WPA- aLI WPA/LI Clutch RE24 REW boLI RE24/boLI PHlev AB
1981 24 MIN AL -2.2 -0.2 269 -0.5 4.8 -5.2 1.02 -0.1 -0.4 1.3 0.1 0.96 -0.3 2.24 9
1982 25 MIN AL -9.4 -0.9 202 -0.2 3.7 -3.9 1.02 -0.6 0.4 -11.3 -1.1 0.93 -7.9 1.95 13
1983 26 MIN AL 8.4 0.8 413 1.1 8.6 -7.4 1.08 0.9 0.2 -1.9 -0.2 0.94 5.8 1.77 20
1984 27 MIN AL -10.7 -1.1 432 -1.9 6.7 -8.6 1.03 -1.1 -0.7 -15.4 -1.5 0.95 -12.2 3.36 6
1985 28 MIN AL 1.8 0.2 201 -0.2 3.4 -3.6 .99 0.4 -0.6 1.5 0.1 0.94 2.6 1.21 18
1986 29 DET AL -2.5 -0.2 93 -0.7 1.4 -2.1 1.17 -0.3 -0.3 -6.4 -0.6 0.97 -2.9 1.15 5
1987 30 MON NL -5.8 -0.6 91 0.1 1.6 -1.6 1.01 -0.4 0.5 -1.2 -0.1 0.98 -4.3 1.28 41
1988 31 MON NL -1.1 -0.1 42 -0.6 0.6 -1.3 1.48 -0.1 -0.3 -2.4 -0.3 1.04 -1.5 1.99 23
1989 32 MIL AL -2.6 -0.3 70 -0.3 1.1 -1.4 .92 -0.2 -0.1 -5.1 -0.5 0.95 -3.9 0.75 7
9 Yrs -24.1 -2.4 1813 -3.1 31.8 -35.0 1.04 -1.4 -1.6 -40.7 -4.0 0.95 -24.5 1.63 142

Baserunning & Misc. Stats*

Year Age Tm Lg ROE XI RS% SBO SB CS SB% SB2 CS2 SB3 CS3 SBH CSH PO PCS OOB OOB1 OOB2 OOB3 OOBHm BT XBT% 1stS 1stS2 1stS3 1stD 1stD3 1stDH 2ndS 2ndS3 2ndSH
1981 24 MIN AL 4 0 32% 101 0 1 0% 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 1 0 3 4 55% 12 5 6 1 1 0 9 3 6
1982 25 MIN AL 3 0 33% 70 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 6 32% 13 10 3 2 2 0 4 1 3
1983 26 MIN AL 6 0 28% 167 2 1 67% 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 1 2 1 4 33% 24 19 5 5 4 1 11 4 7
1984 27 MIN AL 10 0 41% 162 0 1 0% 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 1 1 2 14 51% 31 20 11 3 1 2 15 3 12
1985 28 MIN AL 3 0 36% 64 2 2 50% 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 7 40% 12 8 4 3 1 2 5 3 2
1986 29 DET AL 1 0 21% 45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 43% 4 3 1 1 1 0 2 0 2
1987 30 MON NL 1 0 25% 21 1 0 100% 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 63% 2 1 1 2 0 2 4 2 2
1988 31 MON NL 0 0 31% 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 33% 2 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0
1989 32 MIL AL 0 0 19% 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 100% 1 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 2
9 Yrs 28 0 32% 664 5 5 50% 5 5 0 0 0 0 1 1 15 0 3 5 7 39 44% 101 67 33 17 10 7 53 17 36

Situational Batting*

Hits Pinch Hitting Home Runs SH GIDP PrdOut BaseRunners Advances
Year Age Tm Lg PA Ptn% H Inf Bnt AB H HR RBI PHlev All GS GSo vRH vLH Hm Rd IP Att Suc % DPopp DPs DP% Opp Suc % BR BRS BRS% <2,3B Scr % 0,2B Adv % PAu
1981 24 MIN AL 265 47% 64 9 1 0 0 2.24 5 0 5 2 3 2 3 0 1 1 100% 60 9 15% 33 10 30% 164 29 18% 15 8 53% 12 9 75% 0
1982 25 MIN AL 197 52% 42 13 3 0 2 1.95 4 0 3 2 2 2 2 0 0 0 45 6 13% 27 4 15% 118 12 10% 12 3 25% 11 5 45% 0
1983 26 MIN AL 408 39% 114 20 6 1 4 1.77 8 0 6 5 3 4 4 0 0 0 78 13 17% 39 15 38% 251 37 15% 24 16 67% 23 13 57% 0
1984 27 MIN AL 424 37% 104 6 0 0 0 3.36 4 0 11 3 1 4 0 0 2 2 100% 92 18 20% 49 20 41% 282 38 13% 30 14 47% 25 16 64% 0
1985 28 MIN AL 195 62% 44 18 4 0 2 1.21 7 0 6 0 7 3 4 1 0 0 32 3 9% 13 2 15% 126 18 14% 14 6 43% 4 3 75% 0
1986 29 DET AL 93 89% 22 5 1 0 0 1.15 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22 2 9% 11 2 18% 66 4 6% 3 1 33% 5 3 60% 0
1987 30 MON NL 90 53% 19 41 11 1 8 1.28 1 0 3 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 18 5 28% 5 1 20% 67 15 22% 7 5 71% 3 2 67% 0
1988 31 MON NL 42 88% 8 0 0 23 2 0 0 1.99 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 2 22% 3 1 33% 35 1 3% 2 0 0% 1 1 100% 0
1989 32 MIL AL 70 60% 14 1 0 7 1 0 1 0.75 2 0 1 0 2 1 1 0 1 1 100% 15 1 7% 8 2 25% 51 7 14% 8 3 38% 3 2 67% 0
9 Yrs 1784 49% 431 1 0 142 29 2 17 1.63 31 0 37 12 19 17 14 1 4 4 100% 371 59 16% 188 57 30% 1160 161 14% 115 56 49% 87 54 62% 0
MLB Averages 59% 78% 11% 35% 15% 52% 55%

Pitch Summary -- Batting*

Year Age Tm Lg PA Pit Pit/PA Str Str% L/Str S/Str F/Str I/Str AS/Str I/Bll AS/Pit Con 1stS 30% 30c 30s 20% 20c 20s 31% 31c 31s L/SO S/SO L/SO% PAu Pitu Stru
1988 31 MON NL 41 143 3.49 92 64.3% 23.9% 14.1% 27.2% 34.8% 76.1% 0.0% 49.0% 81.4% 31.7% 4.9% 2 0 12.2% 5 1 4.9% 2 1 0 5 0.0% 1 0 0
1989 32 MIL AL 70 254 3.63 156 61.4% 28.8% 12.2% 24.4% 34.0% 70.5% 0.0% 43.3% 82.0% 28.6% 5.7% 4 2 17.1% 12 5 5.7% 4 3 4 9 30.8% 0 0 1
2 Yrs 111 397 3.58 248 62.5% 27.0% 12.9% 25.4% 34.3% 72.6% 0.0% 45.3% 81.8% 29.7% 5.4% 6 2 15.3% 17 6 5.4% 6 4 4 14 22.2% 1 0 1
MLB Averages 3.60 62.6% 24.4% 14.4% 26.9% 34.2% 75.5% 2.3% 47.2% 80.7% 32.3% 5.5% 15.5% 8.4% 25.8%

Cumulative Batting

Year Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1981 24 82 265 248 29 64 14 4 5 32 0 1 13 37 .258 .295 .407 .703 97 101 9 1 1 2 1
1982 25 140 462 434 49 106 21 6 9 48 0 1 23 59 .244 .284 .382 .667 83 166 15 2 1 2 1
1983 26 260 870 808 95 220 43 10 17 91 2 2 51 98 .272 .315 .413 .729 99 334 28 3 1 7 2
1984 27 369 1294 1199 151 324 63 11 21 129 2 3 77 120 .270 .313 .394 .707 93 472 46 3 3 12 5
1985 28 439 1489 1371 179 368 71 13 28 154 4 5 98 148 .268 .316 .400 .716 95 549 49 3 3 14 6
1986 29 474 1582 1457 185 390 78 13 28 158 4 5 105 161 .268 .315 .397 .712 94 578 51 3 3 14 6
1987 30 533 1672 1541 192 409 82 13 29 172 5 5 111 172 .265 .313 .392 .705 91 604 56 3 3 14 7
1988 31 567 1714 1578 196 417 85 13 29 173 5 5 116 177 .264 .313 .390 .703 91 615 58 3 3 14 7
1989 32 594 1784 1643 201 431 88 13 31 181 5 5 120 190 .262 .311 .388 .700 90 638 59 3 4 14 7

Neutralized Batting

Change to: Default / 750 Runs / 1968 Dodgers / 2000 Rockies or

All seasons are converted to 162-game seasons &
average team scoring of 716 total runs (4.42 R/G)
How this works
Year Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS RC Gact
1981 24 124 410 382 49 103 23 6 8 54 0 21 56 .270 .309 .424 .733 50 82
1982 25 58 198 187 21 43 7 2 4 17 0 10 22 .230 .273 .353 .626 18 58
1983 26 120 410 376 47 116 22 4 8 44 2 28 39 .309 .354 .452 .806 61 120
1984 27 109 425 392 57 105 20 1 4 39 0 26 22 .268 .310 .355 .664 44 109
1985 28 70 195 172 28 44 8 2 7 25 2 21 28 .256 .333 .448 .781 26 70
1986 29 35 93 86 6 22 7 0 0 4 0 7 13 .256 .312 .337 .649 9 35
1987 30 59 90 84 7 19 4 0 1 14 1 6 11 .226 .278 .310 .587 7 59
1988 31 34 44 38 5 9 3 0 0 1 0 6 5 .237 .341 .316 .657 4 34
1989 32 27 71 66 6 15 3 0 2 9 0 4 13 .227 .271 .364 .635 7 27
9 Yrs 636 1936 1783 226 476 97 15 34 207 5 129 209 .267 .315 .395 .711 226 594
162 Game Avg. 162 493 454 58 121 25 4 9 53 1 33 53 .267 .315 .395 .711 58 594



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Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

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Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Hall of Fame MonitorBatting - 6 (1534), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 4 (2427), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Catcher (348th), 3.9 career WAR/4.0 7yr-peak WAR/4.0 JAWS
Average HOF C (out of 13) = 52.5 career WAR/33.8 7yr-peak WAR/43.1 JAWS

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Name and misspellings: Ralph Dave davey David Engle

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