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Johnny Bates

John William Bates

Position: Outfielder
Bats: Left, Throws: Left
Height: 5' 7", Weight: 168 lb.

Born: August 21, 1882 in Steubenville, OH
Signed
by the Boston Beaneaters as an amateur free agent in 1906. (All Transactions)
Debut: April 12, 1906 (Age 23.234)
Rookie Status: Exceeded rookie limits during 1906 season [*]
Teams (by GP): Reds/Doves/Phillies/Beaneaters/Terrapins/... 1906-1914

Final Game: October 10, 1914 (Age 32.050)
Died: February 10, 1949 in Steubenville, OH
Buried: Union Cemetery, Steubenville, OH
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Fine Details  · Last updated Sep 21, 2014 5:17PM
All-Time Rank (among batters): #1003. Bud Harrelson… #1004. Odell Hale… #1005. Denard Span… #1006. JOHNNY BATES… #1007. George Cutshaw… #1008. Hoot Evers… #1009. Ray Knight… 

Standard Batting

More Stats

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1906 23 BSN NL 140 559 504 52 127 21 5 6 54 9 36 82 .252 .315 .349 .664 110 176 10 9 *O
1907 24 BSN NL 126 504 447 52 116 18 12 2 49 11 39 56 .260 .329 .367 .695 119 164 7 11 *O
1908 25 BSN NL 127 495 445 48 115 14 6 1 29 25 35 47 .258 .315 .324 .639 106 144 2 13 *O
1909 26 TOT NL 140 580 502 70 146 26 4 2 38 37 48 53 .291 .360 .371 .730 125 186 6 24 *O
1909 26 BSN NL 63 266 236 27 68 15 3 1 23 15 20 28 .288 .354 .390 .744 127 92 4 6 O
1909 26 PHI NL 77 314 266 43 78 11 1 1 15 22 28 25 .293 .365 .353 .718 123 94 2 18 O
1910 27 PHI NL 135 582 498 91 152 26 11 3 61 31 61 49 .305 .385 .420 .805 132 209 4 19 *O
1911 28 CIN NL 148 646 518 89 151 24 13 1 61 33 103 59 .292 .415 .394 .808 129 204 6 19 *O
1912 29 CIN NL 81 297 239 45 69 12 7 1 29 10 47 16 .289 .406 .410 .816 126 98 0 11 O
1913 30 CIN NL 131 492 407 63 113 13 7 6 51 21 9 67 30 .278 .388 .388 .776 122 158 6 12 *O
1914 31 TOT MLB 126 445 353 55 98 13 8 3 45 10 67 36 .278 .404 .385 .789 128 136 8 14 *O87/9
1914 31 TOT NL 67 203 163 31 40 7 5 2 16 4 29 18 .245 .376 .387 .762 125 63 5 6 O8/9
1914 31 CIN NL 58 193 155 29 39 7 5 2 15 4 28 17 .252 .380 .400 .780 130 62 4 6 8O
1914 31 CHC NL 9 10 8 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 .125 .300 .125 .425 28 1 1 0 /O89
1914 31 BAL FL 59 242 190 24 58 6 3 1 29 6 38 18 .305 .429 .384 .813 130 73 3 8 O87
9 Yrs 1154 4600 3913 565 1087 167 73 25 417 187 9 503 428 .278 .367 .377 .744 122 1475 49 132
162 Game Avg. 162 646 549 79 153 23 10 4 59 26 71 60 .278 .367 .377 .744 122 207 7 19
BSN (4 yrs) 456 1824 1632 179 426 68 26 10 155 60 130 213 .261 .324 .353 .677 114 576 23 39
CIN (4 yrs) 418 1628 1319 226 372 56 32 10 156 68 9 245 122 .282 .401 .396 .796 127 522 16 48
PHI (2 yrs) 212 896 764 134 230 37 12 4 76 53 89 74 .301 .378 .397 .775 129 303 6 37
CHC (1 yr) 9 10 8 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 .125 .300 .125 .425 28 1 1 0
BAL (1 yr) 59 242 190 24 58 6 3 1 29 6 38 18 .305 .429 .384 .813 130 73 3 8
NL (9 yrs) 1095 4358 3723 541 1029 161 70 24 388 181 9 465 410 .276 .364 .377 .740 122 1402 46 124
FL (1 yr) 59 242 190 24 58 6 3 1 29 6 38 18 .305 .429 .384 .813 130 73 3 8

Player Value--Batters

WAR Explained (v2.2): 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl
Year Age Tm Lg G PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR waaWL% 162WL% oWAR dWAR oRAR Salary Pos Awards
1906 23 BSN NL 140 559 5 -1 0 -8 -4 -8 -1.1 18 10 0.9 .493 .494 2.0 -1.5 18 *O
1907 24 BSN NL 126 504 8 -1 0 -4 -6 -3 -0.4 16 14 1.3 .497 .498 2.0 -1.3 18 *O
1908 25 BSN NL 127 495 3 0 0 -4 -6 -7 -0.9 16 9 0.8 .493 .495 1.4 -1.3 13 *O
1909 26 BSN NL 63 266 7 0 0 0 -3 4 0.5 9 12 1.4 .507 .503 1.3 -0.3 12 O
1909 26 PHI NL 77 314 7 1 0 -3 -2 3 0.4 10 13 1.5 .505 .502 1.8 -0.6 16 O
1910 27 PHI NL 135 582 20 -0 0 4 -4 20 2.2 18 37 4.0 .516 .514 3.5 0.1 33 *O
1911 28 CIN NL 148 646 26 -1 0 2 -4 22 2.1 20 42 4.2 .516 .514 4.1 -0.3 40 *O
1912 29 CIN NL 81 297 11 -1 0 0 -2 9 0.8 9 18 1.8 .511 .505 1.8 -0.2 18 O
1913 30 CIN NL 131 492 15 2 0 1 -5 13 1.4 15 28 3.0 .511 .509 2.8 -0.4 27 *O
1914 31 CIN NL 58 193 7 -0 0 -4 -1 1 0.1 6 7 0.7 .502 .501 1.2 -0.6 11 8O
1914 31 CHC NL 9 10 -1 0 0 0 -0 -1 -0.1 0 -0 -0.0 .492 .500 -0.0 -0.0 -0 /O89
1914 31 BAL FL 59 242 10 -1 0 0 -2 8 0.9 4 12 1.2 .514 .505 1.1 -0.2 11 O87
9 Seasons 1154 4600 117 -1 0 -16 -40 61 5.9 141 202 20.5 .505 .504 22.9 -6.8 218
BSN (4 yrs) 456 1824 22 -1 0 -16 -19 -14 -2.0 59 45 4.4 .496 .496 6.6 -4.5 61
CIN (4 yrs) 418 1628 58 -0 0 -1 -12 45 4.4 50 95 9.6 .511 .509 10.0 -1.6 96
PHI (2 yrs) 212 896 27 1 0 1 -6 23 2.7 28 51 5.4 .512 .509 5.2 -0.5 50
CHC (1 yr) 9 10 -1 0 0 0 -0 -1 -0.1 0 -0 -0.0 .492 .500 -0.0 -0.0 -0
BAL (1 yr) 59 242 10 -1 0 0 -2 8 0.9 4 12 1.2 .514 .505 1.1 -0.2 11

Standard Fielding

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Year Tm Lg Age Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
1906 BSN NL 23 OF 140 261 238 12 11 4 .958 1.79 .959 1.89 7-133-0
1907 BSN NL 24 OF 120 193 171 18 4 5 .979 1.58 .960 1.98 1-1-118
1908 BSN NL 25 OF 117 232 205 15 12 2 .948 1.88 .960 2.04 101-8-8
1909 TOT NL 26 OF 133 292 251 27 14 3 .952 2.09 .961 2.07 71-62-0
1909 BSN NL 26 OF 60 146 123 15 8 0 .945 2.30 .961 2.07 60-0-0
1909 PHI NL 26 OF 73 146 128 12 6 3 .959 1.92 .961 2.07 11-62-0
1910 PHI NL 27 OF 131 348 308 24 16 8 .954 2.53 .959 2.17 25-103-3
1911 CIN NL 28 OF 147 386 352 21 13 4 .966 2.54 .960 2.15 0-145-2
1912 CIN NL 29 OF 65 181 157 15 9 4 .950 2.65 .956 2.24 1-64-0
1913 CIN NL 30 OF 111 223 192 19 12 6 .946 1.90 .960 2.21 0-24-88
1914 TOT MLB 31 OF 116 108 95 230 204 11 15 1 .935 1.85 .954 2.03
1914 TOT MLB 31 CF 105 97 85 206 183 8 15 1 .927 1.82 .956 2.34
1914 TOT NL 31 OF 57 49 40 109 96 4 9 1 .917 1.75 .957 2.13
1914 TOT NL 31 CF 56 49 40 107 94 4 9 1 .916 1.75 .958 2.42
1914 CIN NL 31 CF 54 49 40 104 91 4 9 1 .913 1.76 .958 2.42
1914 CIN NL 31 OF 54 49 40 104 91 4 9 1 .913 1.76 .957 2.13
1914 CHC NL 31 OF 3 0 0 5 5 0 0 0 1.000 1.67 .956 2.13
1914 CHC NL 31 CF 2 0 0 3 3 0 0 0 1.000 1.50 .957 2.40
1914 CHC NL 31 RF 1 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 1.000 2.00 .960 1.80
1914 BAL FL 31 OF 59 59 55 121 108 7 6 0 .950 1.95 .951 1.94
1914 BAL FL 31 CF 49 48 45 99 89 4 6 0 .939 1.90 .953 2.24
1914 BAL FL 31 LF 11 11 10 22 19 3 0 0 1.000 2.00 .948 1.95
9 Seasons OF 1080 108 95 2346 2078 162 106 37 .955 2.07 .959 2.08 217-645-220
1 Season (incomplete) CF 105 97 85 206 183 8 15 1 .927 1.82 .956 2.34
1 Season (incomplete) LF 11 11 10 22 19 3 0 0 1.000 2.00 .948 1.95
1 Season (incomplete) RF 1 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 1.000 2.00 .960 1.80
9 Seasons TOT 1080 108 95 2346 2078 162 106 37 .955 2.07 .959 2.08 217-645-220
Lg Pos G GS CG Inn Ch PO A E DP Fld% RF/9 RF/G lgFld% lgRF9 lgRFG G Awards
Note: Complete player games played data.
Fielding stats are a combination of official records and RetroSheet records. Both are likely to have substantial errors and will not match perfectly.
View Complete Notes on Fielding Data
Leagues historically made no effort to balance team, league, and player fielding stats. Since 1990 or so, computers have made this feasible, but prior to that there are hundreds or thousands of discrepancies each year in games played (even whether a player played a position), putouts, assists, double plays and errors.
  • Pre-1938 SB & CS data for catchers is estimated from catcher assists, games started and opposition stolen bases.
  • From 1938 on SB, CS, Pickoff, & WP data for catchers and pitchers is taken from play-by-play accounts in the retrosheet files. There are several hundred games without pbp from 1938 to 1973 and for those we may not have any data.
  • CG & GS come from the retrosheet data and should be complete and pretty accurate from 1914 on.
  • Innings played (like SB and CS) come from the retrosheet play-by-play data and should be considered mostly complete from 1938 to 1973 and complete from then on.
  • Stats (PO,A,G, etc) for LF-CF-RF positions (since 1914) is taken from play-by-play or box score data as available.
  • Stats (PO,A,G,etc) for C,P,1B,2B,3B,SS,OF positions is taken from the official reported totals and may have been corrected at various times since their publication.
  • For detailed information on which games retrosheet is missing play-by-play from 1938 to 1973, please see their most wanted games list
  • For detailed information on the availability of data on this site by year, see our data coverage page

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

Stats are Year-Value-Rank · Glossary

WAR Position Playerss c a p y
1910 NL  4.0 (9th)
1911 NL  4.2 (7th)

Offensive WARs c a p y
1911 NL  4.2 (6th)

Batting Average s c a p y
1909 NL  .291 (7th)
1910 NL  .305 (7th)

On-Base% s c a p y
1910 NL  .385 (10th)
1911 NL  .415 (3rd)
1913 NL  .388 (6th)
1914 ML  .404 (8th)

Slugging % s c a p y
1910 NL  .420 (9th)

On-Base Plus Slugging s c a p y
1909 NL  .730 (10th)
1910 NL  .805 (8th)

Runs Scored s c a p y
1910 NL  91 (8th)

Doubles s c a p y
1909 NL  26 (9th)

Triples s c a p y
1907 NL  12 (6th)
1911 NL  13 (8th)

Home Runs s c a p y
1906 NL  6 (5th)

Bases on Balls s c a p y
1911 NL  103 (2nd)
1913 NL  67 (7th)

Strikeouts s c a p y
1906 NL  82 (2nd)
1907 NL  56 (10th)

Stolen Bases s c a p y
1909 NL  37 (6th)

Adjusted OPS+ s c a p y
1909 NL  125 (10th)
1910 NL  132 (8th)
1911 NL  129 (10th)

Runs Created s c a p y
1910 NL  80 (10th)

Adj. Batting Runs s c a p y
1910 NL  21 (7th)
1911 NL  27 (5th)

Adj. Batting Wins s c a p y
1910 NL  2.3 (7th)
1911 NL  2.8 (5th)

Times On Base s c a p y
1911 NL  260 (3rd)

Offensive Win % s c a p y
1909 NL  .663 (9th)
1910 NL  .704 (7th)
Career  .640 (247th)

Hit By Pitch s c a p y
1906 NL  10 (7th)

Sacrifice Hits s c a p y
Career  132 (234th)

Power-Speed # s c a p y
1906 NL  7.2 (6th)

AB per HR s c a p y
1906 NL  84.0 (6th)

Errors Committed as CF (s.1954) s c a p y
1914 NL  9 (5th)

Putouts as OF s c a p y
1911 NL  352 (3rd)

Assists as OF s c a p y
1909 NL  27 (3rd)
1910 NL  24 (4th)
Career  162 (98th)

Errors Committed as OF s c a p y
1909 NL  14 (4th)
1913 NL  12 (5th)

Double Plays Turned as OF s c a p y
1907 NL  5 (5th)
1910 NL  8 (1st)
1913 NL  6 (4th)
Career  37 (96th)

Range Factor/Game as OF s c a p y
1910 NL  2.53 (3rd)
1911 NL  2.54 (3rd)

Fielding % as OF s c a p y
1907 NL  .979 (4th)

                           

Hall Of Fame Statistics

Player rank in (·)

Gray InkBatting - 28 (855), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame MonitorBatting - 2 (1974), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame StandardsBatting - 15 (1114), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Center Field (132nd), 20.5 career WAR/18.9 7yr-peak WAR/19.7 JAWS
Average HOF CF (out of 18) = 70.4 career WAR/44.1 7yr-peak WAR/57.2 JAWS

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