Talk:Sam Rice
From BR Bullpen
Indiana did have partial birth records shown on internet for the late 1898"s and early 1890"s, butdid not show Sam Rice (then Edgar Charles Rice). There never was really a record except his own word. He used the date 2/20/1892 (even on his WWI draft card) till his Hall of Fame election in 1963; then he switched to 2/20/1890. A geneological "tree" survey, completed in 2002 and listed on the internet (under Edgar Charles Rice) said he was determined to have an 1889 birth year. If I have only the player's work and one fairly reliable record, I tend to go with the outside record. Social security records for Americanborn whites are only reliable in births from 1910-on (taught in school and appears to be so based on research. Please do not change him and others like him or I will have to stop contributing to Bullpen.
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So some internet source written by someone in 2002 is a better source than official records? I don't understand. Until the change gets approved by a committee that takes research seriously, we will not enact it. We will approve your research that has been confirmed by official sources. - --Mischa 19:53, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
I added that picture of Rice with some Japanese-Americans who were "relocated" from their homes on the West Coast. I wonder now if it's perhaps not suited for the Bullpen, due to the touchy subject matter. Would it be better if we just cropped the photo to show Rice? Oaktree_b 22:58, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
Is there a story that goes with it? Was he helping them by giving them jobs? - Randy 23:36, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- I suppose he was helping them... The government took their lives away, and stuck them on this guy's chicken farm to work. That's what bothered me. I guess so long as we stick to the facts and avoid personal opinions in the article, we'll be ok.Oaktree_b 22:31, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
I don't think touchy subject matter should be left out. We have over 100 bios of people who lost lives in wartime, on both the Axis and Allies sides. We have articles for people involved in DUI manslaughter (Jim Leyritz), suicide (Benny Frey), people jailed for having sex with underaged people (Luis Polonia), people who murdered others (Ugueth Urbina, IIRC). - --Mischa 13:28, 29 September 2009 (EDT)
As long as we stick to facts and avoid opinions, we're okay. Our main focus is baseball, but lives outside baseball are an important part of the story too. --Jeff 00:41, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
